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Raptors 122 - Clippers 110

Let's start off by pointing out that these are not your father's Toronto Raptors.  Actually, the Raptors have only existed for 12 seasons, so your father didn't have Raptors, but you get the point.  With nine new players on the roster, and four new starters, Toronto basically started over around Chris Bosh this summer.  The fact that they also extended the Eastern Conference's starting All Star power forward makes it a Tom Cruise off-season.  Think about it:  

  1. Jorge Garbajosa, starter, signed as a free agent from the Spanish league.  
  2. Anthony Parker, starter, signed as a free agent from the Israeli league.
  3. Rasho Nesterovic, starter, acquired this summer in a trade with the Spurs.
  4. T.J. Ford, splits time with Jose Calderon, acquired this summer in a trade with the Bucks.
Throw in number 1 overall pick Andrea Bargnani, their first big off the bench, and five of their top nine players are in the first year with the team, and Calderon and Joey Graham are in their second year.  

Star-divide

With this win over the Clippers, they are two games over .500 for the first time this season.  Probably the first time in franchise history for all my dad knows.  OK, I looked it up... they opened the 04-05 season 3-0.  But it is the first time they've been 2 games over .500 in the second half of the season since 42-40 in 2002.  Consider also that they began this season 2-8 while they were getting to know each other, and then lost Bosh for 12 games in December.  Since Bosh's return, and with a couple of months of playing together, they are 12-5, the best record in the Eastern Conference since January 1.

Still, I thought with the extra motivation of avenging a bad December loss, that the Clippers would win this game.  It turns out to be difficult to win when you allow your opponent to shoot 80% in the first quarter, 70% in the first half, and 59% for the game.  Add in Toronto's 12 makes on 20 three point attempts, and their eFG% for the game was an otherworldly 66.7%.  

Was it bad Clipper defense?  Well, it wasn't good defense.  But sometimes the other guys just make shots.  On the entire team, only Calderon shot below 50% (3 for 7) and he had 12 assists.  So there was no one on the floor to help off of.  With Calderon and Ford breaking down the defense with dribble penetration, and everyone else making open shots, it seemed to me a case of really good offense as opposed to really bad defense.  Don't get me wrong - the Clippers were not good defensively.  But they weren't that bad.

When the Clippers switched and put Elton Brand on Bosh in the second half, that was the one matchup they won on the defensive end.  After shooting 7 for 10 in the first half, Bosh was 3 for 10 against EB in the second.  Unfortunately, the rest of the Raptors remained just as hot - hotter from beyond the arc.

Amazingly, the Clippers would have been right in this game, despite Toronto's hot shooting, if they'd been better from the free throw line (21-31) or if Chris Kaman (1-11) or Corey Maggette (2-10) could have made some shots.  

After showing some signs of returning to form in early January, Kaman once again can not make anything.  A 52% shooter last season, he opened this season shooting 40% in November, and 45% in December.  Then he hit 51% of his shots in the first 12 games of January, and everyone said, ah yes, he likes the traditional ball (© Michael Smith).  Well, he's 8 for 29 (28%) in the last 5 games, bringing him right back down to 46% with the traditional ball (© Michael Smith), so there goes that theory.  Just as was the case at the beginning of the year, he's making good moves and taking shots that he made last year - they're just not going in the bucket.  It's got to be frustrating for Chris, but he doesn't help his cause when he gets an offensive rebound 4 feet from the basket and shoots a 10 foot fall away (10:17 of the first) or gets an offensive rebound alone under the basket and shoots a left handed flip instead of dunking the ball (3:38 of the first).

In this game, Kaman made his second shot, and Maggette made two of his first three.  That means that Kaman missed 9 straight to close the game, and Maggette missed 7 straight.  That makes it a little tougher to come back.

On the positive side, Brand continues to play well (8 for 15, 21 points, 10 rebounds and 2 blocks), although he should not have to get 5 offensive rebounds just to get 15 shots.  By the way, I've never thought of EB as a great on ball defender, but he's about to change my mind.  He's turning into one of the best defenders at the power forward position in the league.  Cat Mobley had his second straight strong game, and Tim Thomas played really well for the third straight time.  After making 5 of 8 threes in this game, Cat is now at 41% on the season.  With Sam Cassell at 42% with the traditional ball (© Michael Smith) and Thomas a legitimate threat as well, the Clippers three point shooting no longer looks like such a liability.  

All in all, given the way that Toronto is playing right now, you can't really put this into the bad loss category, not like the first Raptors game.  Still, if the goal is 4-3 on this road trip, they're going to have to beat a team with a winning record at some point with games at Cleveland, Indiana and Detroit still to come.  And let's face it - a road win against a decent team is the least they have to do if they want to be taken seriously as a playoff team.  After Minnesota and Denver both lost Saturday night, this was an opportunity to solidify their position in the 7th position in the West.  Instead, they're back to 8.  Consider this an opportunity lost.

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What is to be done with.......
....Kaman? The guy is turning out to be a huge stiff, and I think with each horrible game, his confidence and mental attitude gets worse. He doesn't seem to be a strong-willed individual, someone who will accept a challenge and work hard to overcome difficulties. He mentioned in one of his interviews that he's been having some personal problems, but he rightfully doesn't want to talk about it.

I heard a great suggestion on the Clippertalk call-in show today. If things continue like this through the rest of the year, he needs to have a meeting with his agent and the Clipper brass and make plans to go through a program similiar to the one that Brand did during the off season before last, in order to get in great physical and mental shape to play in the NBA and be a productive player for his team, and earn the 50+ mil. that he's going to be making in the next 5 years. He looks out of shape, slow, indecisive, and not really ready to compete. There is really no excuse for this, when you are being paid the kind of money these guys are getting to be an athlete, you should do everything in your power to live up to your end of the contract. I thought the same years ago when they had similiar problems with Stanley Roberts and "Big" John Williams.

by saxmanager on Feb 4, 2007 1:44 PM PST   0 recs

Dunno...
Eveything I've ever heard about the guy indicates that he's a hrad worker and very coachable.  If they told him to spend the summer lifting, I think he'd do it.  I think he is strong willed - but it seems like the problem is in his head right now.  Don't give up on him.  He was actually playing pretty well for awhile.  

He'd have to eat a lot more to be in the same league as Roberts and Hot Plate Williams.

by ClipperSteve on Feb 4, 2007 5:45 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Hard to be too upset with this loss
before I start, you said:

"I've never thought of EB as a great on ball defender"

What?

I don't know of a better one, if shot blocking is your criteria.  He has averaged 2 per game over his career, and 90% of them are blocking his man's shot.  He does not get a lot of weak side blocks, like Wallace or Camby.  His timing is incredible, and he has long arms.

The list of NBA players who have averaged 20 and 10, 2 blks and shot 50% for their career is short.  We are talking Kareem, Wilt, and a few other centers.  EB is the only power forward I'm aware of with such career numbers, just to put him in some historical perspective.  Too bad he toiled anonymously in Clipper hell for so long.

On to the game.  

Toronto is playing great ball, and despite a good all around game from the Clippers, the Raptor's hot shooting was too much.

The Clippers achieved most of the goals they set for each game.  They only turned it over 10 times.   The limited the Raptors to 3 offensive boards (missleading, because OR's depend on missing shots, which they didn't do much of).  23 assists was nice.  Got scoring off the bench (39 points).  And the bonus:  11 three's.  Are you kidding?

More positives are the inspired play of Tim Thomas (playing above expectations right now), the hot shooting of Cat Mobley, and EB playing to form.  Shaun Livingston was 5-5, and looked pretty confident shooting.  Kaman's 7 rebounds in 21 minutes.

The negatives:  zero assists for Livingston.  Maggette thinking he is a shooter (nice hit at the end of one, but take it to the hole, man - that's what you do.)  Kaman's futher regression (we may be in danger of losing him mentally).  10 missed free-throws.  Bad job rotating.

I was surprised at the decision to play Q. Ross only 16 minutes.  This seems like a great game to use him.  Quick team that moves the ball well but plays no defense.  Scoring was not an issuse, as Q had 7 points in those brief minutes.

On to New York, which is no cake walk.  Isaiah has those guys playing respectably.  I would have never guess that would win 20 games all year, let alone at the half way point.  Eddy Curry is playing well right now, so Kaman may be in for a long night.  But EB had 8 blocks last time vs. these guys.  Q must keep Marbury in check, as he has historicall been a Clipper killer.  Maggette is the X factor, because they really don't have anybody he can match him.  

by mp on Feb 4, 2007 2:01 PM PST   0 recs

All Good Points
I expected something about Patterson NJ.

To the question of Brand's defense - I'm making a major distinction between on-ball defense and help defense.  EB has always had solid blocked shot numbers, but I would dispute your 90% number.  He gets more blocked shots on his man than most, but not that many.  At any rate, I've never thought of Elton as a lock-down man-to-man guy.  Maybe I was wrong before, but that's all I'm saying.  You don't have to remind me of his historically stellar numbers.  There are a few 20-10 guys in the league - but throw in his shooting percentage and blocked shots, and he's in a class by himself.

MDSr tends to sit Q if there is no single opponent he wants to shut down.  This is debatable, when you consider that Q is also the best team defender on the Clippers, and also making 50% of his shots.  But coach has a minutes distribution problem on the whole (Keep Corey - Play Corey!) and this is one thing he uses to decide who gets minutes, it seems to me.

As for New York, they actually have a lot of talent.  Isiah is a horrible GM and a bad coach, but he is a pretty good evaluator of talent, and has always done a good job in the draft.  Renaldo Balkman is a stretch, but he got Channing Frye, David Lee and Nate Robinson last year.  Add in Eddy Curry, easily the most talented low post scorer in the East (and also the laziest), Marbury, QRichardson and Jamal Crawford, and there's plenty of talent to win some games.  So no, it won't be easy.

by ClipperSteve on Feb 4, 2007 5:42 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Paterson - one T
I only go back to Paterson when I need to demonstrate my familiarity with Tim Thomas.

I don't think Elton is a lock down defender, either.

Garnett, Duncan and Boozer seem to do quite well against him.  But his shot blocking ability at 6'8 is uncanny.  And timely blocks, too (Carmelo, Playoffs, Game 1).

90% on ball blocks may be hyperbole on my part, as I really have no way of verifying (does John's Popcorn Machine do that?), but he does it more than anyone I can think of.  

Still, the Clippers need to beat the Knickerbockers.

by mp on Feb 4, 2007 8:33 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Negative
But I saw somewhere (82games maybe?  I couldn't find it with a quick look) EB is through the roof in blocks/goaltends, leading the study to conclude that his ratio was probably impossible.  I think anyone who watches EB knows that at his height and only moderate leaping ability he can't actually possibly commit a goaltend, leading me to conclude the folks who did the study had never watched him play.  He blocks you with smarts at the point of the shot.

To Chris' credit he seems to have picked up this skill as well, often getting blocks at the point of the shot and not taking a risk and reaching up behind his head.

Just another notch for EB.  Mad blocks without free points.

by John R on Feb 5, 2007 9:55 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Found it
It was 82games.

Sick stat.  Sorry for the double post.

by John R on Feb 5, 2007 12:54 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Random thoughts and questions
I agree with ClipperSteve about the Raptors being improved.  Colangelo has done a nice job of brining in good players to surround Bosh.

The Raptors are improved, I still expected the Clips to win the game.  The fact that the Raptors put up 122 points against us is deplorable.  I agree with ClipperSteve again, that sometimes a team just gets hot and stays hot the entire game.  But, that doesn't change the fact the Clips are struggling on defense right now.  The Knicks are a team capable of putting up a ton of points, so the Clips better play better "D" against the Knicks or they will get run out of MSG.

What's going on with all these 10 day contract guys?  Are they just signing guys to sign guys?  I will admit that Luke Jackson did get some minutes to try and impress, but failed.  Alvin Williams was gone in a blink of an eye, and now Doug Christie.  So far, he hasn't seen but what 2 minutes of floor time.  What are the Clips looking for?  At this point in the season the chances of catching lighting in a bottle are slim.  If they are looking for an athletic defender, Christie is 3 or 4 years past his prime.  They have Singleton wasting away on the bench, why not instead of signing these 10 dayers, play Singleton a little more, if they are looking for a more athletic defender.  I know he still has some lapses, but maybe he would get better with some more PT.  

On a side note:  my girlfriend surprised me with tickets last night.  She however made a HUGE mistake, she got me tickets to the "Q" to see the LAKERS!  Ouch!  She's not a huge basketball fan, so I didn't fly off the handle or anything.  I might see if there is any way I can trade them in for tickets for the Clips game this Wed, if not then I'm sure somebody would be more then willing to take the tickets off my hands to see "8".  I WILL be at the "Q" on Wed!  I'll do a diary and let everyone on this great site what happens at the "Q" on Wed.  Hopefully since it's not a national TV game, Lebron will sit it out with that nagging toe injury.  

by Googs on Feb 4, 2007 3:16 PM PST   0 recs

10 day guys
With Luke Jackson, they were looking for someone that would actually help.  He didn't, so they didn't re-sign him.

With Alvin Williams, it was a temporary thing - they wanted an extra point guard while Livingston was hurt, and then Shaun got better, so they didn't re-sign him.

Christie is a different story, it seems to me.  In fact, they didn't even have him in uniform for the Boston game.  Christie was signed to be a veteran presence at practice, in the locker room, on the bench.  If someone gets hurt and he gets a chance to contribute in a game, that's gravy.  But I don't think you sign Christie to a 10 day and then let him go.  I think they'll hang onto him, unless he turns out not to be the positive influence they were looking for.  They have the roster spot to use, and could even free up another one by waiving Rebraca (if they don't trade him by the 22nd).  So look for them to eventually sign Christie for the rest of the season.

by ClipperSteve on Feb 4, 2007 5:52 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

10 day guys
I hope Christie doesn't become a distraction instead of a veteran presence. His constant kisses to his wife in the stands is a bit much.  I can understand a kiss once in a while after a good play but this jerk is doing it every time he moves on the bench.  I can see how this can get on someone's nerves after a while.

by arnold1943 on Feb 5, 2007 8:49 PM PST   0 recs

Kaman
If someone is making $50,000/year I'll forgive him a bad day once in a while. At $10,000,000 I don't want to hear about personal problems. I can accept injury as an excuse, but I don't tell me about the other crap. Just play basketball.
Just do it!!!

by arnold1943 on Feb 5, 2007 8:54 PM PST   0 recs

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