Clippers Opening Day Injury Update - I've Got a Bad Feeling About This
Remember last season? Remember how every time we thought the Clippers injury situation couldn't get any worse, it always did? Remember how we went into the season thinking maybe Elton Brand might possibly be back in January and play 40 games or so? And how instead he played 8? Remember how we hoped that Shaun Livingston might be back after the All Star break? And how the next time he played in an NBA game it was in a Miami Heat uniform? (By the way, will Gatorade continue airing the 'good angel/bad angel' commercial with Dwyane Wade blowing past his new teammate?)
Just as we literally never got a chance to see Brand play alongside Kaman 2.0, it's beginning to feel like we won't ever see Camby and Kaman. Or Baron Davis in a Clippers uniform in Staples Center.
Obviously I'm exaggerating, but when Camby missed the first pre-season game because of the flu, we were all a tad disappointed. "That's too bad - I was looking forward to seeing him and Kaman together. But it's just the flu - he'll be on the court soon enough." A bruised heel took care of that idea. "No big deal. It's just pre-season. Sure it would be nice to have him play with his new teammates, but he'll be ready for the opener with the Lakers." Well, guess what? It's Monday, the opener is two days away, and Camby still isn't practicing. So while I'm fairly confident we'll see him play SOME DAY, it's starting to feel eerily familiar. After all, when Elton Brand ruptured his Achilles in August 2007, nobody dreamed that he would never - repeat never - again play alongside Chris Kaman. Think about this - the Clippers gave Kaman his 5/$52M extension in October 2006 with the idea that he and Elton Brand would form an imposing frontcourt for all five of those seasons. In fact, they never played a single game together under that contract.
Speaking of the flu, the Baron Davis situation has been similarly insidious. He stayed in LA during a pre-season road trip because of that same flu bug. When Mike Taylor and Eric Gordon responded to the opportunity to play more minutes with huge games and led the team to consecutive fourth quarter victories, it looked like a blessing in disguise. "Sure, Baron and his new teammates need some court time together. But the rookies looked great, and Baron will be back soon. It's just the flu." Now he's dealing with a partially torn tendon in his left ring finger, and it's still not certain that he'll be ready for the opener.
According to MDsr "We've pretty much got Plan A and Plan B, right? Baron plays or doesn't play." In other words, plan B is to lose.
With only two days of practice left, Baron did not participate in contact drills on Sunday. Hopefully the team is just being extra cautious. SURELY Baron won't miss the opener, his debut in his home town, against the LAKERS, on NATIONAL TV!
Will he?
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When it comes to the Clippers and injuries, nothing surprises me.
by saxmanager on
Oct 27, 2008 9:55 AM PDT
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No doubt
There’s definitely nervousness in the air. The early stretch of games looks tough, but we’re actually quite fortunate if you break down the first ten games. We play 8 of 10 at home, with one “road” game at the Lakers and the other a home-and-home against Utah. Melo (bonehead) is suspended for G2, Deron Williams (second-degree ankle sprain) is unlikely to play in either G3 or G4, Ellis (moped) is out for G9, and Manu (ankle surgery) is out for G10. Are injuries breaking in our favor?
That’s what the other teams are asking themselves, at least the teams we’re playing in the first week. Camby is doubtful for the opener and may miss at least the first week. Boom is questionable for the opener (50/50 or so) and that may carry over through the first week as well. And even if they do play it’ll be an unfamiliar group.
Hey, it’s the Clippers, shouldn’t we be used to it by now? Hollinger’s fingers must be itching to type “i t-o-l-d y-o-u s-o.”
by supac on
Oct 27, 2008 9:56 AM PDT
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Feeling the Mondays?
Haha c’mon Steve, it’s Monday. It’s already a depressing enough day without a post like this! haha
Anyway, mark my words, it’s a STONE COLD LOCK that Baron plays in the opener. I absolutely expect him to be in the lineup Wed. Like you said, it’s his home opener, vs. the Lakers, on national TV. The man will play. He has a flair for the dramatic and an appreciation for “the moment.” No way he’d miss a chance to one-up Kobe on a national stage.
by madglove on
Oct 27, 2008 10:27 AM PDT
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That's what I think...
But isn’t it time to go through contact drills? Tape the damn finger to the next one and blame some ball!
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on
Oct 27, 2008 11:10 AM PDT
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At this point, it's better to rest
Honestly, at this point the one or two practices aren’t going to be enough to develop chemistry and familiarity. The potential gains are minimal compared to the potential loss. You can’t develop chemistry in a day or two. You can get hurt badly in an instant. Right now, I’d rather have Baron in the starting line-up on Wed. having had zero practice with the other players instead of risking further injury for little gain.
They’re going to keep Baron in bubble wrap until Wed. night.
by madglove on
Oct 27, 2008 11:46 AM PDT
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The irony...
What’s the easiest way to tweak a finger playing basketball? Getting hit with the ball, right? So what’s interesting is that he’s participating in non-contact drills, which would presumable involve catching passes.
You’re right of course. I mean, I know you’re right. Bubble wrap is good. I like the little popping sounds. But I really want Wednesday to get here.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on
Oct 27, 2008 12:04 PM PDT
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I think BD will be on the court...
"Duck, Crab. Crab, Duck"
Roger Sterling - Mad Men
by Lawler's Law on
Oct 27, 2008 1:58 PM PDT
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Uh…can we PLEASE stop talking about “popping”? The LAST thing we want is anything to pop…
by madglove on
Oct 27, 2008 2:21 PM PDT
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How about shoot away and throw some nice dimes
by Qlippers on
Oct 27, 2008 2:32 PM PDT
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Patience required
…as always, for Clipper fans. As I was driving into work I was pondering the same issues that CS raises here. And my conclusion about the absence of Camby, let alone BD, is that this is not a Kerry Kittles situation. We’re not even close to an 07-08 Brand situation, nor an 04 Brand situation. When was that one, and what happened? We haven’t ever talked about it around here, to my recollection, so it may be worth looking at now—when Brand was hurt in the first game in Japan, Rashard Lewis went for 50 in one of those games, and Chris Wilcox was a “capable” starter for 15-20 games—and I don’t even remember the specific bad impact on the season.
This is just the way it goes. If Camby doesn’t play in games 2 or 3, he will play by game 5. Eric Gordon tweaked his ankle, after hurting his hamstring, but he came back strong and is ready to go. We dodged a bullet on BD’s finger injury, and his status (along with TT’s) is better than Camby’s. Not perfect, but the season is going to start and they’re all going to be playing sooner, rather than later. The injuries to look out for are the semi-major and major ones, as Baron’s finger would have been, Kaman’s ankle towards the end of last season, Davis3’s knee, not to mention the others.
On top of this, the Clips should be stronger with their backups. PG is of course very tough, and BD really isn’t replaceable, especially when you’re going up against the elite teams. But part of the trick here is that the Clips have been without 3 of their top 8 rotation players in these preseason games, and one of their guys is a 19-year-old rookie. If BD proves fragile—which he well might not—it appears that Eric Gordon is going to be an important part of the backup plan. Along with the emergence of Mike Taylor, who is probably going to get better with experience, it could be worse, and it doesn’t seem like Rick Brunson, Doug Overton territory. And the situation with the bigs is much better. Thomas, Davis3, Skinner, Novak and DJordan are all there behind Camby. However they may have played and gelled (or failed to) in the preseason, it will be different in the real games, and it will be different with Baron Davis on the court. The trick is to have only one of the top 8 guys on the shelf, rather than 3, or none at all, and for BD to be healthy, followed by Camby and everybody else. The Clips can do it, and they can easily get there by the end of the week.
Patience. The kind of patience that’s required when Tim Thomas is the opening day starter against the Lakers. When Kaman-Camby haven’t played a single minute, while Bynum-Gasol are on day 25 of forming their new partnership. Let’s remember that the Warriors lost their first 7 games last year, with an inferior lineup, and BD led them to 48 wins. Let’s get through this week and the election and see where things stand for the second half of the first 10.
by citizen zhiv on
Oct 27, 2008 10:35 AM PDT
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We Should Know Better....
….than to be hopeful, but we are Clipper fans for a reason. Every year we start off with so much hope and nearly every year we have been disappointed. Just when it seems like things are going for us, something always happens.
I’m hopeful, but nervous at the same time.
I’ll be at the opener, section 105. Say hi if you see me.
by Newtybar on
Oct 27, 2008 12:12 PM PDT
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Nervous Anticipation
The only thing to do now is wait and see what actually happens. When the “hand specialist” first assest BD they said that he should be able to practice on the Monday before the opener, not Sunday, so it really wasn’t a surprise to not see him practicing yesterday. I’m doing nothing but google news searching “clippers” every time I’m at a computer and hoping that some good news will pop up. Until any news comes, all we can do is wait. But like zhiv said, we’re not talking about a return in January. If they miss the first couple of games, ya it sucks, but I’d rather have BD, Camby, TT, etc. get completely healthy before they come back too soon and re-injure themselves.
by besaje on
Oct 27, 2008 12:50 PM PDT
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Davis will play, I dont know about Camby.
We are clipper fans, everything has happened to us and it never amazes me
by Qlippers on
Oct 27, 2008 12:50 PM PDT
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Baron was on the news
NBC had an article related to a charity event Baron was hosting today. He was wearing his splint, but he was also carrying heavy boxes of full of bottled water without any pain using both hands. His smile was as big as ever. Can’t wait for the opener.
by citizen bob on
Oct 27, 2008 8:50 PM PDT
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Camby is serious
Not sure if I read this here, but Camby had a cortizone shot in his heel. I had a friend that had this done and he said the pain was excrutiating. Camby must be serious if he is willing to go through with that.
by citizen bob on
Oct 27, 2008 8:52 PM PDT
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Bummer...Injuries
I know the injuries are so bummer….I can’t wait until we’re fully healthy. It will still take a while to mesh…..a few practice games isn’t quite the solution.
Who’s going to the game? Anyone need tickets? I have an extra pair in Section 116, Row K….I am selling them at Face Value $150/ea.($300 for the pair). They’re good seats close to the Clippers bench. Let me know. email me, kb_tim@yahoo.com
FAZEKAS!!!!!!
by killerbeetim on
Oct 27, 2008 9:02 PM PDT
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