Nuggets 113 - Clippers 103
The Clippers lost an 18 point halftime lead on their way to losing their most winnable game in their first seven this season. They also played the final 33 minutes of the game without Baron Davis, who left early in the second quarter after injuring his hip in a nasty fall under the basket and did not return. Unfortunately, Baron fell on his left side, the same side where he has an injured finger. He may or may not have been able to brace himself had he not been injured, but it cetainly appeared that he chose NOT to break his fall with his injured hand.
When Baron went out, the Clippers had a 9 point lead. So what's really surprising isn't the fact that they lost the game, so much as the fact that they were able to double their lead before halftime without him.
In the end, there are really two numbers you have to know about this game: Nene plus 30, Baron Davis plus 9. When both were on the floor, the teams were pretty evenly matched. Nene missed significant portions of the first and second quarters with foul trouble, which is when the Clippers built their lead. But in the end, Baron played only 13 minutes and Nene played 35 - advantage and game, Nuggets.
Nene was a beast tonight, and if he can stay healthy and play like that, he'll make people in Denver forget all about Marcus Camby. In fact, with Nene back at 100%, this team is suddenly very good again when Carmelo Anthony is in the lineup. They still have no bench, and in particular their front court reserves are pathetic. But their starting lineup is very, very good.
Looking at the numbers from the game, it's amazing that the Clippers were in it at all. They went almost 8 minutes at the end of the game without a made basket before Tim Thomas finally converted with 16 seconds to go. They shot 38% as a team and made only 3 of 16 three point shots. Cat Mobley and Chris Kaman, two players whom you would expect to be crucial in the absence of Baron Davis, were a combined for 9 of 33. With Baron out and Mobley and Kaman ineffective, Al Thornton (30) and Thomas (20) tried to keep the Clippers in the lead. Unfortunately, the team seemed not to recognize that Denver was guarding Al (6'8") with Anthony Carter (6'2") for most of the quarter. With the game on the line, MDsr choose twice to go to Thomas. He delivered the first time with 16 seconds to take a 2 point lead. But with the game once again tied and 8 seconds remaining, Thomas didn't even get a shot away.
The game probably would not have been close had Baron been able to play. But the irony is, he's clearly the guy who would have the ball in that situation. In fact, that's exactly what happened earlier in the game when he converted a tough bankshot at the end of the first quarte. Without him out there, who do you go to? I would have opted for Thornton. MDsr picked Thomas.
The semi-good news is that Chris Kaman had an active game with 15 points, 15 rebounds and 4 blocked shots. It's only semi-good as Chris took 15 shots to get those 15 points, and only made 4 of them. He also had not one, not two, but three classic Mr. Flippy moments - in all three, he cuaght the ball on the right side of the basket, and instead of going strong with the right handed dunk, for some reason that no one but Chris can possibly know, he decided to go under the hoop and shoot the left-handed reverse flip (hence the moniker). Why does he do this? It's completely maddening. He actually made one of them, and he got fouled on the other two. But it doesn't justify this crazy tendency. Why does he intend on making easy shots into difficult ones?
And Al Thornton looked good, scoring in a variety of ways en route to his 30. Someone is going to have to step up and help him on offense. But unfortunately, with Baron and Camby hurt, this is very much the same team that won 23 games last season.
Hopefully we'll find out more about Baron's status soon. For now, according to Ramona the Pest, he's doubtful for tomorrow night in Utah and will "most likely stay home and get treatment." So, with that in mind, I'll leave you with one other pair of +/- numbers from tonight's game. Jason Hart, minus 25 in 29 minutes, Mike Taylor +7 in 12 minutes. Draw your own conclusions.
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Good recap and I agree with you on many points. I was about to add this to the post below, but here works just as well.
As a preface let me say that I did not watch this game since I have recently moved to San Jose and they obviously don’t televise clipper games. But in any event, A few things jump out at me from the stats. Kaman had respectable numbers in rebounding and blocked shots, But to have 15 points on 15 shot attempts and realize that 7 came form the free throw line, that’s horrible. Can someone answer is he missing easy shots or do defenses know what he does and send double teams immediately? BTW Thornton had a great game IMO, so there’s one highlight.
Second point, we cannot claim injuries led to our defeat anymore!!!!!! This is not last year’s team and it drives me crazy to hear last years excuses. The fact is, we shouldn’t have any excuses anymore other than players playing badly. We all knew the risks of our roster before the season began, so there should be no illusions regarding the fact that we will have players missing time, but we should have the depth to compensate for mediocre opponents.
Lastly, I’ve never been a fan of blaming a loss on one person, but I gotta be honest and say that I don’t understand what mdsr was thinking with that lineup for the last play in the 4th… The game was tied and we sent out Thornton, Kaman, Thomas Mobley and Hart… if that is considered a good lineup for the final offensive play, we deserved this loss. Where were the shooters? Do we really need Kaman and Mobley who hadn’t played well in the second half? Also, hart is reliable but I’ve seen a scoring threat and he is nooo scoring threat. We should have had Novak, Thomas, Thornton, Gordon and maybe mobley or rdavis (only because baron was out), these are all players who can hit a big shot or can create their own offense, something that neither Kaman nor Hart can claim.
by cantthinkofagoodname on Nov 1, 2008 12:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
dude get nba league pass
its only $169, i think its worth it, like 2 dollars a game, i live in new york and i need my clips
by althornton4president on Nov 1, 2008 2:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's official.
The Clippers are cursed. They can’t sign a quality player who can stay healthy. They can’t hold on to leads if their lives depended on it. This is pathetic, but I guess that comes with being a Clipper fan. I’m sorry I had any hopes for this team. Baron will likely never play with Camby, judiging from the Clippers’ luck.
by WestsideBrandon on Nov 1, 2008 12:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
the first thing i looked at was
mike taylors vs. jason harts +/-. mike taylor need more minutes. plain and simple. tomorrow being that baron is most likely not going to play, he obviously will get more. but i feel with jason hart in the line up we resemble last years squad way to much for my liking.
by krapper11 on Nov 1, 2008 12:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The long awaited Hart-Knight matchup
So, it comes down to this tomorrow. Knowing the Clips luck, Brevin Knight will light up the Clips tomorrow. The Clippers “good luck” never ceases to amaze me. Having Baron on the court is critical to the Clips chances. At least tomorrow we can see Camby in action.
Davis3 played some serviceable minutes tonite. It’s easy to see why the Clips drafted him the first place. Can make a jump shot, ok defender, doesn’t make extra mistakes. Definitely an upgrade over josh powell.
Ricky Davis again had scoring issues. It is time to be worried yet?
Watching livingston’s playing time steadily creep up isn’t that fun either.
I love LAC.
by oasisman on Nov 1, 2008 12:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Knight lighting us up
not likely to happen. But just the same I would much rather have BD playing.
by bestclipfan on Nov 1, 2008 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disappointing
Tired of seeing injuries and having guys out. Hate losing a winnable game (no Melo) and a hefty lead. Ricky Davis reminding me of Reuben Patterson—hasn’t gotten going at all—and miss Eric Gordon. Paul Davis played well. Hart did a good job on defense until AI woke up, but he really doesn’t make plays. Needed just a bit more out of Kaman, and he seemed to get tire. Thornton did his job. But the Clips won’t do anything with BD going in and out.. Tough to take.
by citizen zhiv on Nov 1, 2008 12:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
everbody just relax...
there are 80 games left in the season, its not like these guys are gunna mesh automatically, and they didnt even have camby… give them a few games. as for baron, its only a bruised hip i’m sure bdiddy will be back shortly, in the meantime we still have the pieces to stay around .500 until everyone is healthy again…
and u cant hate on tyree ricardo man thats f**ked up
by althornton4president on Nov 1, 2008 2:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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You are kidding right. It is a 500 team when they have their best players on the floor at best. Considering they practiced with BD all preseason it is amazing how pathetic they look when he is not on the floor.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 1, 2008 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We laughed, then cried
Definitely was not expecting us to have an 18 pt. half time lead, but that may have been part of what did us in. As long as I’ve been following the Clips, they play horribly with a lead. The 4th quarter, especially the last six minutes was a little too predictable.
Against Denver, you’d expect our overall numbers to be better and they were, Thornton bounced back, Kaman’s non-shooting numbers were great w/ 15 boards, 4 blocks, & 2 steals compared to 1 turnover. Thomas stepped up again.
We were talking about this before the game, so obviously what I didn’t like was Jason Hart getting all the minutes he did. Hopefully Dunleavy will take a look at the box score, especially the plus/minus stat and give Taylor more time going forward. With Baron Davis or Mike Taylor in the game, the Clippers managed a 16 point advantage, and Hart’s team was 25 points inferior. In his 29 minutes of play, that’s almost a point per minute. You can credit Hart all you want for some nice defensive stops against AI, but he’s been too much of a liability on offense for that to matter.
Mobley’s shot hasn’t really been dropping, but I guess as we’ve learned from years past, he’s a guy that will shoot well and maybe win you the game 1 out of 4 times or so. The rest, he gives solid D, a little leadership, and of course a few knucklehead plays mixed in with some forced shots.
I’m guessing Dunleavy knew how important this win was and didn’t want one of the rookies messing it up. As some of us expected, DeAndre is under consideration for heading to the D-League. I guess it isn’t too much of a suprise…hopefully that venture pans out.
by ghost_ride on Nov 1, 2008 9:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
MD Blanks Out
With Mobley going 5 for 18 and playing 39 minutes at 33 years of age, and Ricky D going scoreless, why did Eric Gordon get only 2 minutes of playing time?
After the Clips couldn’t score a basket after a 5 minutes in that important stretch in the 4th, why not consider putting in Gordon for scoring at that point? Why not put in Novak at that point, someone who could actually shoot?
On the final possession of the 4th period, why is Kaman on the floor? Are you actually going to post him up for the last play? Do you think he would have the ability or time on the last possession to get a rebound and put back opportunity? Why not have shooters like Novak and Gordon on the floor to spread things out for shooting or penetration? Instead, didn’t we have Kaman and Hart?
Keep MD as GM, and let’s get someone else (the former Mavericks coach or Van Gundy) to coach this team……..
by Jerdog on Nov 1, 2008 9:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i 2nd that
MD as GM, get another coach
by Qlippers on Nov 1, 2008 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haunting Loss
We’ll move on—just because we have to—but that was a critical loss. We discussed some of the reasons before the game: need to get some guys going, build confidence, very winnable game with Melo out, defending the home court.
The thing that’s really bothering me is the study that I did of BD and GSW versus the Nuggets last year, which culminated in GSW losing to Denver in the 78th game, and missing the playoffs. A home game with Melo out and an 18pt halftime lead against a team that figures to be battling with the Clips for one of the last 2nd tier playoff spots. What a drag, and losing the critical for the next game too.
by citizen zhiv on Nov 1, 2008 11:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Any word yet
on whether BD is playing or not, or will it be a game time decision?
by bestclipfan on Nov 1, 2008 4:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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