Clipper's Future Could Still Be Bright
This is mostly a very broad, general response to Tim Kawakami's negative views on Baron joining the Clippers for the next five years and seemingly dragging the Clippers down to the level of the Warriors.
Tim seems to think the Clippers are just as "messed up" as the Warriors. It may be true at this moment in time but I believe the Clippers do have a bright future where the Warriors may not. I believe there is reason for hope in the Clippers organization while the Warriors infrastructure and core team seems unstable and disjointed.
Firstly I believe the Clippers as an organization has improved. I remember the days before I was a fan where I thought it was a stingy franchise that would NEVER pay enough money to keep anyone with star potential.
The Clippers were basically a team that showcased future talent for other teams.
But things got better. By signing guys like Brand and Magette and Kaman to long term contracts I felt that I could be a Clipper fan. I finally felt a sense of stability that they could build a team around a core set of talented guys. I felt like they could become a team that could make the playoffs every year and maybe even win a series or two.
Secondly although Brand left, they showed that they are willing to open up the wallet to sign a star player. Baron Davis is a big name player you can build around. I believe a good team must have a star player with a long term contract that other stars want to play with. Baron will definitely help attract free agent talent when available.
The Clippers will have money for the next two off seasons. Paul Davis, Ricky Davis, Jason Hart, Steve Novak, and Brian Skinner all come off the books at the end of this season for a total of about $7.5M. Camby, Mobley, Thomas, Gordon & Thornton all come off at the end of next season in 2010 for a total of about $29M.
The Clippers could be one of just a few teams that could afford one of possibly many superstar free agents at that time. And there could actually be an All Star willing to come to LA for (1) the money, (2) to play in a Big market (3) to play with Baron and Kaman and maybe some other bright young stars by that time?? (Taylor, Gordon, Jordan, Thornton).
Also, the organization just invested millions of dollars into a brand new state of the art, training facility with 24 hour access for players and coaches. This can only help erase all the negative feelings players used to have about sharing limited hours at a health club with public access. This facility will only help in recruiting better players.
Lastly, I believe the Clippers drafted very well the last couple of years. Taylor is looking like a steal and Gordon looks like he could be ready to become a starter very soon. Thornton seems like a very hard working, solid player as well. If he keeps improving every year, he could very well be the Clipper's leading scorer and possible All Star.
Yes, Dunleavy could dampen the future. Many Clipper fans get frustrated with his offensive sets, player rotations and constant micro-management/play-calling. But for the most part I think the positives outweigh the negatives.
Sure he subbed in a cold Daniel Ewing at the most critical moment in Clipper history, but don't forget Sam Cassell also forgot to bring the ball up past the half court line in time, turning the ball over at a crucial moment.
Sure Dunleavy was probably behind the Yaroslav Korolev pick. In hindsight of course they should have picked Monta Ellis(#40) or Danny Granger(#17). But you know tthat every team other than the Warriors, Pacers, Jazz(Deron), Hornets(Chris Paul) and Lakers(Bynum) probably regret not picking them too. Hindsight is always 20-20...
Without Dunleavy, maybe the Clippers don't get Cassell for Marko Jaric(yikes!).
Without Dunleavy, maybe the Clippers don't make the playoffs.
Without Dunleavy, maybe the Clippers don't actually win a playoff series.
Without Dunleavy, maybe the Clippers don't take the mighty Suns to seven games.
Without Dunleavy, the Clippers probably don't draft Kaman, Thornton, Gordon, Taylor and Jordan.
So all in all, even though it looks really bad for the Clippers right now, I think it's only going to get better for the Clippers in the future.
How long will it take? I'm beginning to think it will take at least 20 to 25 injury free games before they start looking good on a nightly basis. But I'm definitely hoping my gut is wrong and they start rolling sooner.
I definitely think all these days off in between games is actually hurting them from developing a flow. I hope the increase in frequency of games per week will help the team gel faster.
So what do you think?
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Yeah. It sucked.
But Dunleavy left Baron in there way too long and he knows it. I’m sure he was just trying to let Baron go big on his former team. But Morrow smoked him BIG TIME instead. The right move would have been to yank Baron but I’m sure that would not have helped the PG-Coach relationship so he let the ship go down with the Captain.
It’s still too early for me to give up hope. As I said before 20 -25 games into the season. That’ll probably be the breaking point for me. Until then I think they should keep trying. If it’s like 2 – 23 or 3 -22 or something ridiculous like that then I’ll vote to blow up the team and try something drastic, new coach, trade Baron or Camby (if that’s even possible), etc…
LMAO
You have just smokeed your self onto the special yellow bus. GM Dunleavy is alright Coach Dunleavy gets worse by the seasons.
Yeah. But that's what a true fan is, right?
Insane? Rooting for a team that’s never won a championship? No banners? Hoping for the best and suffering misery, year after year?
You’ve got to be a little crazy to even want to be a Clipper fan when you have the Lakers and all their success in the same building. But you know what? I like most Clipper fans because in a very general but noticeable way to ME, to ME – it seems like Clipper fans root for the good in basketball – defense and teamwork, hardworking no name guys that have a good chance of beating the best teams in the NBA because they play the right way. (Obviously NOT talking about this season – yet.)
On the other hand, the overwhelmingly obnoxious amount of Laker fans that seem to just scream and yell for Kobe dunking and going off for 81 points and love chanting “MVP” just seem like ignorant drunkards who just like to jump on a winning bandwagon. My conversation with many (NOT ALL) but many Laker fans always seem to reveal that they really don’t know much about basketball or the concepts of good teamwork. To me, if one guy on your team has to score 81 to win a game – that means your team sucks. But to them they’re proud of it. And they always seem to use the word “we” way too much. “We got the best player on the planet.” “Did you see what we did to the _?” Annoying.
Many Laker fans overlook the fact that they are loyal to a guy who said he’d rather play on Pluto than the Lakers just over a season ago. Where was all the “we” then? He definitely wasn’t thinking “we”. But to those deluded fans winning is all that matters. Accusations of rape, dragging Shaq’s name under the bus, crying like a baby on national tv and then buying your master/wife a 4 million dollar ring (four million dollars for a stupid rock on your prissy wife’s little finger just cause you got caught) – all those things don’t matter to fans who just want to claim the best player ever on their team.
That’s fine. I understand winning feels good. But I, personally just can’t root for that. I know the Clipper’s aren’t all angels either. But that combination of events, plus the way he used to play (so selfish it made me and probably his teammates back then puke) – sealed it for me. Yeah, a lot of NBA players probably cheat on their wives. But if they get caught do they throw out teammates names into the press so they have to suffer as well? Do they hold press conferences with their wives to apologize and cry to the public?
(Although I have to say that Kobe seems to have finally gotten the concept of trusting his teammates, although that opens up the whole debate that it only shows now because only now does he have teammates that are worthy of his trust. But to those who argue that, I say that wasn’t the case the year they had Malone and Payton. He had great guys around him even with Malone and Foxy out. But he took horrible shot after shot trying to be the “man”. I think his selfishness definitely cost them another ring or maybe even two, especially if he would have placated Shaq for the greater goal of winning more championships and sacrificing his happiness for that of the fans in LA. Not to mention his famous video last year talking trash about his teammate, throwing Bynum under the Buss.)
So being a L.A. native, if I have to choose – yeah maybe you think I’m on a special yellow bus because I hope for the best in the Clippers. I don’t accept people implying that I’m dumb or retarted for writing what I believe about their future. But if that’s your opinion so be it.
We have regressed...
For a while at the beginning of the season, it seemed that we were playing better though not winning, that is, until the Dallas game. But after that epic first win of the season, where alot of emotion and pent up anxiety was expended, we are rapidly regressing to infant basketball stage. Soon we won’t be able to beat high school basketball teams, then JR high teams and elementary school teams will beat up on us, and then we will probably lose to the junior jam squad and toddlers stuffing teddy bears in 3 foot hoops.
But asides from that, I think once we have regressed to the Star Child stage, we might start winning again…like maybe in the year 2084 or when the Rupublicans finally win the White House again with Jeb Bush…whichever comes first.

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