But I do like the moves he’s made over the offseason. He gave us what should be a competitive team with great flexibility for the future. I think he’s probably a top 5 GM considering what he has to work with. For that reason, MDSr should be a real GM and make a decision to hire a new coach… but he should still be the GM

let him get a season under his belt with these new guys first. I understand its frustrating but if you believed this team had any shot this year then you need to put things into perspective. Teams like mavs who have the same players and were a great team need to be blown up cause their is problems their but we have 9 new players and if they can get the sytem down before the all star break that would be great and then we should judge this team and when and if we get a new head choach mdsr should remain the gm and pick the new choach. if ur a clipper fan then ur used to hard times and if u just jumped on the band wagon cause we got some new player its time u learn to suffer with all us long term clipper fans.

There are alot of folks such as myself, ToyCannon and others who have thought for a long time that MDSr was a poor choice to coach this team for various reasons. Yes we’ve documented our position. No, I for one have not “complained,” rather just pointed out what I perceive to be his deficiencies.

All you’re doing now is jumping on the bandwagon, after what some of us have known for a long time has become so obvious that there really no other answer. You try to differentiate yourself by saying that the others are “idiots” and that you “know [your] hoops.” If you truly “knew your hoops” as you claim, perhaps you would have seen this coming as others did. And perhaps you would have had the courage to speak up when it wasn’t popular.

Whatever he coaches on defense I think was great when the players executed it correctly. I still remember being at that Hornet game where they had block after block, steal after steal, holding them to only 16 points in the ENTIRE second half! That’s what I like about Dunleavy. I agree with his philosophy that defense wins championships. Sure it’d be nice to have a Suns or Warriors type of team as entertainment. But I think I would always know in the back of my mind that you can’t go all the way with that style of play.

The problem I’ve always had is his offense and his constantly shouting out plays everytime down the court. Always calling the number of the guy he thinks can take his defender one on one in the post. Iso after iso. So lame.

But I agree with madglove in that Dunleavy is not as bad as this season is making him look so far. It’s a new team and there’s no knowing if these pieces will ever fit right together to produce the same kind of defense the Clippers used to have.

I was just thinking about how much I used to like Adelman’s “Princeton” offense with Divac, Miller, Webber, Bibby, Hedu, Peja, Jackson. His offense looked really good for so many years, but their defense was never good enough to take them all the way. But man, all those pick and rolls, cutting to the basket, easy layups and alley oops were beautiful.

But now, if he is trying to coach that same offense in Houston, I would say it is not working because of their games that I have personally watched this year, it’s not even close to the old Kings offense.

I guess my point is a good coach can have a great system. If he has the right players (not necessarily the best, but the right ones for his system) he looks good. But when he has the wrong players (no matter how talented they are) he’s going to look bad.

So people may complain – so why did Dunleavy get Baron and Camby if he knew they weren’t the best guys for his system? Simple. He got Baron because Baron was supposed to be icing on the Brand cake. It wouldn’t be such a big gamble if you have 4 starters that already know your system and you try to add one guy. Of course, after Brand left, he still signed him because he already made a commitment AND he had to scramble to get whatever he could to recover. Same with Camby.

So I think Dunleavy should get a little more time to see if this can work. It might come at the cost of this season, but if they are rockin after the All Star break and look set for a good season next year, I’d be disappointed but ok with that.

Getting a new coach and starting over might take just as long or maybe even longer.

I do not, however think that we should change coaches. Better still, Dunleavy should be given the green light to trade the starting player he feels is least capable of playing within his system. If that is Kaman so be it. If that is Thornton so be it. He should replace this player with the best rebounding and defending smart player he can find. Personally I am leaning towards trading Thornton for a tough rebounding SF. If we can get value for Kaman we should trade him and get a tough rebounding PF. I like Gerald Wallace and Rasheed Wallace. Shane Battier, Mike Miller or even Mike Dunleavy Jr would also do the job. We have the firepower, we just need to make some stops and get some fast breaks. We need some toughness in this team. If we dominate the boards we will win games.

Thornton for Marion
Kaman for Marion
Thornton for Millsap
Kaman for Mike Miller

Energy type guys? I thought the Clips did real well going 4 – 0 with Reuben Patterson last season… Wasn’t a great shooter but man he really gave the Clippers energy and effort.

Is there anyone available like that?

For god sakes he was fired from the trailblazers and we picked him him. Just look at his career win-loss stats. They’re terrible.