Clippers at Thunder - Game Preview and Open Thread
Los Angeles Clippers @ Oklahoma City
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| 1-9 | 1-10 | |
| Ford Center | ||
| November 19, 2008 - 5:00 PM | ||
| TV: KTLA Channel 5 |
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| Probable starters: | ||
| Baron Davis |
PG | Earl Watson |
| Cuttino Mobley |
SG | Kevin Durant |
| Al Thornton | SF | Jeff Green |
| Marcus Camby |
PF | Nick Collison |
| Chris Kaman |
C | Robert Swift |
The Big Picture:
There can be only one. In a Battle of the Titan(ic)s, two sinking ships meet in Oklahoma City. The Clippers are 1-9, the Thunder 1-10. One of them will get their second victory tonight; league rules require it. The Clippers first 10 games were theoretically against very good competition - 9 of the opponents won at least 48 games last season. But hidden in that factoid are many advantages in the early season schedule. For one, they've only had two road games, and only one trip out of Staples Center (they played one road game against the Lakers). They're 1-7 at home. Fully half of their 10 opponents have been playing the second of back-to-back games, yet they are 0-5 in those games. And eight of the ten opponents were missing a starter. They're 1-7 in those. I've heard both Baron Davis and Ralph Lawler suggest that this road trip may be good for the team - build some camaraderie, get away from some LA distractions. We'll see. I think the best thing about this game, from the Clippers' perspective, is that the opponent stinks.
The Antagonist:
Now this is how you rebuild. Or at least, they've got the first part down; the part where you hit rock bottom. The Thunder's top three scorers are 20 year old Kevin Durant (21 points per game), 22 year old Jeff Green (15) and 20 year old Russell Westbrook (12). Their leading rebounder is 22 year old Robert Swift. The problem is, no one else is averaging in double digits. The Thunder have a new city, some young talent, extra first round picks in each of the next two draft, and about a ton of cap space for the foreseeable future. Can they get free agents to move to Oklahoma? That remains to be seen, but it's no surprise that they're losing this season - that's all part of the plan. Step 1 is working perfectly. But Step 2 often proves to be the tricky part.
The Subplots
- How bad have these teams been? There are only three teams in the NBA averaging fewer than 90 points per game. These are two of them. There are only eight teams in the NBA allowing over 100 points a game. Once again, we'll be watching two of them tonight. I'm no expert, but it seems to me that if you can't score, and you can't keep the other team from scoring, you won't win many games.
- C-Weezy. Former Clipper Chris Wilcox has missed the last 5 games with a sore knee. He is expected to play tonight. Wilcox is an amazing athlete who's never really figured out the game of basketball. He's been playing behind Nick Collison this season, and is shooting 39% from the field in 6 games. Not what you want from your power forward.
- Speaking of sub-40% shooting. The Clippers as a team are now above 40% after spending much of the early season below that mark. In fact, they've improved all the way to 41.2%, second worst in the NBA. Who is worse? Do you really have to ask? Several key Clippers remain below 40% - Baron Davis (36.4%), Tim Thomas (39.8%), Ricky Davis (32.3%), both rookie guards, etc. The three Davises are all below 40%, the first time in the history of the NBA that three teammates with the same last name have accomplished that. (I just made that up, but I'm pretty sure it's true.)
- Baron's shooting. Baron's 36.4% is not good, obviously. And in the latest three game losing streak, he's been particularly bad - 16 for 51. That really hurts, especially given that the Clippers should have won all three of those games considering the opposition. So what's going on? Is it a grand conspiracy to drive out MDsr, or maybe to get him to loosen the reigns a little? It seems more likely that this is a shooting slump, plain and simple. Baron's never been a high percentage shooter - he's just over 41% for his career, and he actually had three straight entire seasons where he shot under 40%. So we shouldn't expect him to shoot 50% (or even 45%). But hopefully he won't continue with 16 for 51 either. A couple of good games where he gets hot, and he'll be right back on his career average. One more thing: I think we've ignored that he's playing with a partially torn ligament in his left ring finger. It's certainly conceivable that the injury is causing him to be off some.
- Rebounding. The Clippers out-rebounded the Spurs on Monday, the first time this year they've gotten more rebounds than their opponent. The Thunder are actually a pretty good rebounding team so far (although that's deceptive, since there are so many misses in their games). Nick Collison has destroyed the Clippers on the boards in the past. If the Clippers expect to win this game, they will have to box out and keep Collison and others off the offensive glass.
- The tallest shooting guard in the world. Kevin Durant is a prodigious talent, that much is certain. He's very long, and incredibly skilled. He seemed to be figuring out the difference between a good shot and a bad shot towards the end of last season. And his shooting percentage is up slightly so far this season. But his assists are down, and his turnovers are up, and both of those numbers were pretty bad to begin with. Part of that is the fact that the players around him just aren't that good, and Durant is forced to take a lot of shots. Fortunately for the Clippers, Cat Mobley has an uncanny ability to defend against taller opponents. It will be interesting to see if Eric Gordon (small for a two guard) gets the chance to use his strength against Durant's length at all tonight.
- Battle of the Sophomores. This game features three of the five first team all rookie selections from last season: Durant, Green, and Al Thornton. Thornton and Green will be matched up opposite each other from the opening tip, and each of them is the second leading scorer for their team at about 15 a game. Given the difficulty each of these teams have scoring the ball, it may well be that whoever wins that contest will give their team a significant advantage in the game.
- UCLA point guards. Baron Davis, Earl Watson and Russell Westbrook all played point guard for the Bruins (although Westbrook only did so while Darren Collison was hurt). Watson and Davis arrived in Westwood together, though Baron left for the NBA a couple years early. If nothing else, this will give Citizens Zhiv and Jax and other UCLA fans a little extra reason to watch tonight.
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Let's Activate DeAndre Jordan
and make it entertaining at least.
by Newtybar on
Nov 19, 2008 9:44 AM PST
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Tonight
Steve,
I was wondering what you could write or would write about tonight’s game.
Good preview.
At least our blogger shows up for every game.
by 69knicks on
Nov 19, 2008 9:49 AM PST
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There's always stuff to write
Sometimes I may not really want to, but there’s always stuff to write.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on
Nov 19, 2008 9:55 AM PST
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Good test tonight
We can see just how bad the Clippers are. Good news for the Clippers is that there are probably no distractions in Oklahoma City. Both teams are looking at this game as their best chance for another win this month.
by FireDunleavy.com on
Nov 19, 2008 10:14 AM PST
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I like the matchup
They played Houston tougher than expected at home, you could say very similar to how we played against Houston. They have some young guys that are actually trying, we have some vets who don’t care. It’s hard to say who has the advantage, but if the Clippers manage to lose this one it’s tough to say when they will get their next win, probably not on this road trip.
Hopefully this will end up being a statement game for us, so we can show the entire league we’re the best 1 win team.
by ghost_ride on
Nov 19, 2008 11:18 AM PST
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Here we go again
I would not be surprised if the Clippers lost tonight. I dont even record the games on the hd dvr any more. How about giving Jimmy Ivene( or wha ever his name is) , Kim Hughes or any of the assistant coaching a chance . I am not too excited about the game.
by Petey Pablo on
Nov 19, 2008 10:21 AM PST
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We're 1 Point Favorites
So obviously Vegas wouldn’t be suprised if we lost either. It’s virtually a toss up based on our performance thus far.
We were 1.5 point favorites against the Spurs and we managed to lose that game as well. Fasten your seat belts folks!
by ghost_ride on
Nov 19, 2008 11:20 AM PST
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Swift gives us a swift kick in the...
but Clippers pull it out…who’s gonna stop Durant?
"Duck, Crab. Crab, Duck"
Roger Sterling - Mad Men
by Lawler's Law on
Nov 19, 2008 10:23 AM PST
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Watching Collison
We’ve all been here before, where you try to figure out how the Clippers will lose. Another frosty shooting night for BD, lots of hustle rebounds for Nick Collison, a healthy dose of Kaman miscues, et voila: thunderous Thunder victory. And let’s add that OKC has plenty of young guys who will look to feast on the Clips and join the Milsap-Udrih-Morrow-Mason club (Mason didn’t have a spectacular night when he took over, but hitting a game winner gets you in too.) Durant, Green, and Westbrook would all like to have a career night, I’m sure. And don’t count out Earl Watson getting hot either—he’s played well against the Clips before.
I think I’ll focus on Collison. He represents a good test to see if the twin towers has any chance of working. He’s really a solid backup in the mold of Millsap and Landry, but CS describes well how Wilcox has underperformed and turned him into a starter. If any of us are still looking for positive signs—at least, until the Clipper team actually shows us some—the rebounding edge over San Antonio counts, I guess, although I’m still reeling from the way that Biedrens manhandled Kaman and the Clips in that department, setting up Morrow’s big night. If the Clips can’t outrebound this team, and if Collison hurts them and gets them extra shots and something like 15 rebounds, it may be time to retool.
Can’t wait.
by citizen zhiv on
Nov 19, 2008 11:27 AM PST
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Clippers by blowout!!!!!!
The Clippers will blowout the Thunder tonight 112 to 86.
Clipper Nation, I just pulled this prediction out of thin air, as proof that, when all else fails, there’s always delusion.
Go CLIPS!!!!!!
"Its official, I'm a Clipper, and it feels great!" - Baron Davis
by ClipperChuck on
Nov 19, 2008 11:33 AM PST
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LOL...Club Delusion sounds like reality right now...
"Duck, Crab. Crab, Duck"
Roger Sterling - Mad Men
by Lawler's Law on
Nov 19, 2008 11:36 AM PST
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Hey I was pretty close... am I the 2nd coming of Nostradamus?
Final score 108-88, only off by 2 pts. Not bad eh?
"Its official, I'm a Clipper, and it feels great!" - Baron Davis
by ClipperChuck on
Nov 19, 2008 7:33 PM PST
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Nostradamus maybe, but certainly not Euclid
you were off by 6 points… not two. Clippers -4, Thunder +2… off by 6.
Prognostication A. Algebra D.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on
Nov 19, 2008 8:20 PM PST
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If I weren't a Clippers fan
and I actually bet, I could have made some serious money. If you bet against the Clippers every game this season, you would be rich! The only time they covered the spread was against Dallas…
by Newtybar on
Nov 19, 2008 11:38 AM PST
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Optimistic about tonight, and the rest of the season
Playoffs are a long shot at this point. The Clippers would have to have a tremendous road record the rest of the way, which shouldn’t be totally out of the question for a veteran team, but is unlikely nonetheless.
Still, I see signs that the team is coming together. Team defense will continue to improve as the players learn the Dunleavy system. It is a system, requiring less one on one defensive skill, and more understanding and communication. I fully believe in Coach D as a defensive coach.
Offensively, low shooting % is indeed the culprit. Dunleavy’s offensive plays have led to a lot of long 2-pt attempts, which is a very inefficient way to play basketball. Many of these long two’s are coming at the end of the shot clock, or after a period of long isolation, where the ball has stopped moving and guys are out of position for rebounds. The shots are not happening in rhythym. The defense has the advantage in this situation.
Baron’s low % becomes amplified. He is better at shooting off the dribble or on the move. That is not happening. If he can pull his % back up to 42%, and Kaman, Camby and AT start crashing the boards, it will obviously lead to additional shots for the team. Rebounding and then kicking it out leads to more rhythym shots than kicking it out and reposting it.
At some point, MDSr. is going to have to get over his obsession with posting up. Yes, it is neat to have the ability to post up both of your guards and your SF, but that doesn’t mean that you should constantly do it, especially if it isn’t working (and unlike Cassell, I am not convinced that posting up is one of BD’s strengths).
This team has the personell to run a Nuggets style offense. It would be a lot more effective and fun to watch than what we are witnessing now.
F-Elton!
by mikey p on
Nov 19, 2008 11:41 AM PST
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Hard to call it Optimism, but...
Way to go, MP—let’s keep hope alive.
The Clips have a good roster and things have to work themselves out. They won’t play well until they… start playing well. Defense-first, some hustle and extra effort, rebounding and blocking shots, and they can be pretty good. It would be nice just to see them win a few games here and there, but until they round the corner it’s going to continue to be painful.
One of the things that was frustrating in the loss to San Antonio was that they didn’t rebound even better than they did. Maybe they were trying to get back on defense—not that SA was going to run them to death—but it seemed like Kaman and others weren’t aggressive enough in hitting the offensive boards. On what should be a good rebounding team, this can create a big advantage. Kaman slipped in and got a huge offensive rebound and put back in crunch time, but it seemed like that could have happened a number of times earlier, but he wasn’t going for it. When you see the guys who have killed the Clips—Milsap, Landry, Biedrens—they’re going very aggressively after offensive rebounds. At least against San Antonio—who didn’t have one of those energy rebounders—the Clips controlled their own defensive boards. If they can really start hitting the offensive glass, it could help them quite a bit.
I also believe they just have to cycle through to some new guys at this point. Bury Ricky Davis and let him come back to life later, once you’re winning. I don’t think it’s time to play DeAndre Jordan yet, because they still haven’t gotten full-scale minutes out of Camby, and they can get a lot out of Paul Davis. Bury Tim Thomas. He seems like a good idea, and you might think that the 2nd team/bench players have some firepower and an added scorer with him out there, but with Camby’s injury he’s already played about 500% more minutes than is desirable, and look at the results. So try something different. Which Clipper matches up best with Nick Collison? It’s obviously Paul Davis. Millsap? Landry? Same guy. And you know who is the 2nd best matchup with that kind of player? It’s Al Thornton. Thornton needs something to get him going, and playing him against the 2nd string PF might do the trick (Thornton-Mobley-Gordon, or Thornton-Novak-Gordon). Just say no to Tim Thomas and Ricky Davis for a little while, and let’s see what happens.
More Eric Gordon, please. The Clips have two really good rookies (not to mention DeAndre)—Eric Gordon and Mike Taylor. When you’ve lost this many games already, you’re headed towards bulking up on Gordon’s minutes towards the end of a lost season anyway, so why not get started early and see what happens? Ricky Davis and Tim Thomas (and Baron Davis) have already lost you 5 or 6 basketball games, why not let Gordon lose a couple?
As far as the pathetic offense goes, I’m very much with Clipper Steve: what’s in this super thick playbook, where all they do is reverse the ball and try to go into the post, and play a little pick and roll? They are trying to run and get some early offense: I’ll give them credit for that.
One thing that’s interesting is the way in which the Clipper/Dunleavy offense was so well-suited to Sam Cassell. The Clips could defend and rebound, and get the ball out to Cassell, who specialized in the pull-up jumper (KA’s pujit) and hit it a fair amount. If it wasn’t there, he brought a calm to getting the offense started, and he was effective on the pick-and-roll. Baron Davis is not Sam Cassell. Isn’t there some way to make BD more effective? If the playbook is so thick, aren’t there some alternatives in there? We know they’re not running the Maggette-down-the-middle play anymore.
by citizen zhiv on
Nov 19, 2008 12:25 PM PST
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DeAndre > Paul Davis
Paul Davis had one semi productive game. Every other game he has looked like a sloth out there. He’s simply too slow and not athletic enough to keep up. I see loose balls bounce right by him and his reaction time is so slow he doesn’t think to pick it up until a second later and someone else has already grabbed it.
by Newtybar on
Nov 19, 2008 12:33 PM PST
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Zhiv loves Paul Davis
That’s all there is to it. And given where we are, and what we’ve seen of this offense, he can’t hurt. Here we are debating whether the Clippers could possibly prevail against the worst team in the league. But we really can’t win. If we do, we should have. If we don’t, more of the same. Perhaps the only way we truly “"win” is if we blow them out.
by Jax on
Nov 19, 2008 12:52 PM PST
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Saw this happening
I knew I should have explained the DeAndre/Davis3 issue a bit more clearly.
Let’s start with DeAndre. I’m a big fan. My hope is that in a couple of years he’s a million times better than Davis3. He’s got great physical tools and a great spirit. I haven’t read the blog yet, but I’m looking forward to it.
But there’s no hurry to get to DeAndre. Kaman is playing pretty well—I really like the FG%, would like to see him get some more shots, go after offensive rebounds more aggressively. As always, keep the turnovers down. He runs the floor really well—let’s see how Swift keeps up with him tonight. And, as I said, Camby still needs to get even more minutes and get integrated more fully into the Clipper attack. A lot of folks said early on that there should be no time when either Kaman or Camby isn’t on the floor. That still holds true, and the amount of time is going down, but the other thing to look for is the amount of time when they’re on the floor together, which can still go up a bit.
DeAndre duplicates those guys. The thing to look for with DeAndre is what he’s going to be like towards the end of next season. No, not this one at all. The goal with him is that he’s becoming a monster in early 2010, so that he is replacing Camby and his hefty expiring contract. Maybe, especially the way things are going, DeAndre starts to play a little in the 2nd half of this season—wow, I haven’t thought about ATT (advanced tanking theory) in a while. DeAndre isn’t the guy yet—at least not until you sit Tim Thomas down and give Davis3, Thornton, and Novak some beefy minutes first. And DeAndre could also come into play very quickly if Kaman or Camby gets banged up. That’s part of what’s so frustrating about the Clippers right now, that they’re playing so badly when nobody is hurt. Wait until they have a few injuries.
About my love for Paul Davis. I’m not sure that there’s any deep, abiding, genuine affection there, but I do see him as a sort of anti-Tim Thomas, and that counts for a lot with me. Last year, with EB, some will remember that I thought the Clips should start Kaman-Davis and bring Tim Thomas off the bench. I don’t think that Davis3 is very good as a backup center. I do think that he can rebound and defend, hit some shots and make some plays as a backup PF. I wanted to see how he would fare in that role last season, but he was injured just before the opportunity presented itself, so we saw a ton of Josh Powell and Nick Fazekas instead. I’m not sure why Davis got the nod this year to come back, instead of Powell or Fazekas. He’s a better athlete than Fazekas, and while it was fun to root for the awkward but oddly effective Fazeke, he’s not sticking anywhere else and isn’t really an NBA athlete. Who knows what the situation with Josh Powell was, but we saw plenty of semi-solid, underwhelming play from him last season, and I don’t really need to see anymore. That leaves Davis3. We haven’t really seen what he can do. He has looked pretty good for the most part, at least from my perspective, but he has disappeared as Camby has come around and Thomas came back from his own ankle tweak and is taking the backup minutes. Davis3 played 18 minutes and scored 10 points, with 3 rebounds in the Clips lone victory—a game when TT was unavailable.
Tim Thomas has played 202 minutes for the 1-9 Clippers, Ricky Davis 208. Davis3 has played 66 minutes, EGordon 120, Brian Skinner 93, Steve Novak 26. My recommendation would be to even all of that out.
And I’m noticing that I forgot about Skinner, a perfectly capable backup PF who will hustle for rebounds and play defense. Skinner seems to be a better backup C than Davis3. I think I have a slight preference for Davis3 at PF because he’s an unknown quantity and might have more offense, but it doesn’t really matter to me. Just make one of them the backup and first guy off the bench and stop panning for the fool’s gold of Tim Thomas, and PLEASE don’t bring him in for the end of the 3rd quarter/big chunk of the 4th, when he has already cost the Clippers multiple games. Until he’s out of the doghouse, let TT play the way that MD wants to play Novak—to bury an opponent when the Clips have a healthy lead, on a very short leash. Don’t tell me (and that means you Milph) that Thomas is playing well when the Clips are 1-9 and he’s shooting 40% and 30% from 3. Give somebody else the minutes.
So it’s not about Paul Davis. Brian Skinner is fine with me, and I could be talked into how he might be preferable. Anybody who will get a rebound.
by citizen zhiv on
Nov 19, 2008 1:39 PM PST
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Maggette's FT's are notably absent
Corey shot about 10 FT’s at 85% per game. Certainly helped an otherwise stale offense at least appear more productive on paper.
Same with Sam’s pullup and EB from the elbow. These plays could certainly bail out a possession.
The Clips only bailout play right now is Cat’s fadeaway.
F-Elton!
by mikey p on
Nov 19, 2008 12:40 PM PST
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Time for a players meeting
Not to discuss each other but the coaches plays. Every player needs to tear out the pages of the playbook they do not understand and cannot perform. Keep only the pages that every player agrees to. Dunleavy must think himself a genius for having the thickest playbook in all of professional sports, but it is time to lighten the load. Start with five or so plays that the entire team is comfortable with and freestyle the rest. As the team gets better at these sets, maybe Dunleavy can add back a few pages. Keep it simple stupid.
by citizen bob on
Nov 19, 2008 2:24 PM PST
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Stupid idea here
How does this trade sound? Thomas,Mobley and a draft pick for Felton Brand?
by Petey Pablo on
Nov 19, 2008 12:27 PM PST
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Not happening
I wouldn’t make that trade.
by Qlippers on
Nov 19, 2008 1:07 PM PST
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This is a major test for the Clippers
I ordinarily don’t like to judge a team on the basis of a single game, but unfortunately the Clippers are going to be judged heavily on tonight’s game. Of particular interest is how Baron will handle the Watson / Westbrook combo at PG. If he is outscored in this position, it will signal the demise of the Club. BD must step up as our leader on the floor. Every player has an advantage over their respective players on Oklahoma with the exception of SG. Every player on the team needs to understand that they are really auditioning for a position in the NBA. I personally intend to be ruthless to any of our starting players that does not perform tonight. Winds of change is coming and everybody on the Clippers must be on the trading block if they cannot step up.
by citizen bob on
Nov 19, 2008 2:08 PM PST
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anybody live blogging?
"Duck, Crab. Crab, Duck"
Roger Sterling - Mad Men
by Lawler's Law on
Nov 19, 2008 5:22 PM PST
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down 13. nba.com boxscore the tv is on 30 min delay. sad.
by andrewexd on
Nov 19, 2008 5:58 PM PST
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We are down by 13 in the 2nd quarter
Worst team in the NBA.
Players are trying to get Dunleavy Fired
by Qlippers on
Nov 19, 2008 5:58 PM PST
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We aren't the worst team
We won by 20pts
by Qlippers on
Nov 19, 2008 7:20 PM PST
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Breakout Performance?
It may or may not be, but it’s nice to finally win one by 20 instead losing by 20. Balanced scoring, interested D. BD even hit a couple 3’s. Maybe they carried the last couple minutes of that San Antonio game into this one…
by ghost_ride on
Nov 19, 2008 7:34 PM PST
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I feel like I made a halfcourt shot!
My prediction was pretty close. Let’s keep dreaming big.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip1zsUIosoA
"Its official, I'm a Clipper, and it feels great!" - Baron Davis
by ClipperChuck on
Nov 19, 2008 7:36 PM PST
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OMG im soo HAPPY!!
from now on, nothing bad will ever happen again!!
by highriser on
Nov 19, 2008 7:39 PM PST
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Guys guys....
This is OKC we are playing against, not the Lakers… let’s keep it cool. All I can say is Hollinger can shove it.
by Newtybar on
Nov 19, 2008 7:41 PM PST
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Right
I’m not sure whether to celebrate, or feel bad for OKC
F-Elton!
by mikey p on
Nov 19, 2008 7:57 PM PST
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Sad for Seattle
Can’t feel sorry for a franchise stolen from their beloved city.
by Qlippers on
Nov 19, 2008 9:30 PM PST
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We still have a chance
If we win our remaining 71 games we can finish 73-9 thus breaking the Bulls all-time regular season win record. YES WE CAN!
No man is happy without a delusion of some kind. Delusions are as necessary to our happiness as realities. -Christian Nestell Bovee
by ClipperChuck on
Nov 19, 2008 7:42 PM PST
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1 for 12 Shooting
Were Tim Thomas & Ricky Davis combined in 39.5 minutes. In fact if you take out their shooting & Skinner’s 0-3, we shot 55%
The starters shot 59% even with BD’s 5/15
10 Turnovers is also a nice stat.
by ghost_ride on
Nov 19, 2008 7:47 PM PST
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Take that, Hollinger
So now we know the Clips won’t be 1-81.
by citizen zhiv on
Nov 19, 2008 7:59 PM PST
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Lots of things to like
—Kaman putting together some very good games. Tonight was a bit of a bonanza.
—Collison didn’t hurt the Clips and the Clips had a nice rebounding edge. They got some offensive rebounding.
—A great defensive game by Mobley against Durant. Cat had 7 steals. He was off to a slow start shooting and then got going during the run at the end of the second quarter. He’s hitting shots and can be a weapon on both offense and defense. In the first half, when it was pretty ugly, you saw the way the Clips have been failing, with little offensive energy and movement and Cat and BD missing shots.
—Interesting rotation with the wings. Gordon gets some minutes in the first half, but Westbrook and Durant push the Thunder to a lead. 2nd half: Ricky Davis gets the minutes, because Gordon is just too small to guard Durant. Davis doesn’t do so badly on defense—OKC is beaten and has no mojo—but he’s horrible in every other phase of the game. Why not let Novak guard Durant, or Thornton? Sit Ricky down. OKC takes back the momentum, just slightly, when Davis2 and Tim Thomas are bringing the Clips down.
—Nice use of Jason Hart. Hart plays well against Westbrook, hits a big shot as OKC is trying to cut it to single digits, crazy assist from Kaman. Hart looked pretty good, and there’s a role for him on this team. Nice move by Dunleavy, nice work by Hart.
—Tim Thomas is trying to shorten my life. Ralph making a plea that he needs to be getting more minutes. Huh? Was Paul Davis even on the active list? Didn’t see him out there. Liked very much the fact that Skinner was the first big off the bench, finishing out the first quarter. Clips hit the skids when Tim Thomas came in for Camby, and Thunder went up by 15 against Thomas-Skinner-Davis2-Taylor, and my guy Gordon.
—Baron Davis starts out 0-5, then goes 5-10 and makes passes and plays once the other guys get their act together. Ends up at 5-15, lots of nice plays with both Kaman and Camby.
—Thornton puts up a quiet 20, hits the boards a bit and hustles. Would be nice to see him get more baskets and easy shots off of passes and within the offense; degree of difficulty is still too high. Jeff Green very quiet.
—Nice to get a win, even against a 1-10 team. Thunder will be very good with Ricky Rubio at PG and Westbrook playing SG. Durant has to play SF and get inside more. Not sure why they left Westbrook on the bench for so long as the Clips were going up by 15 in the third, and PJ was screaming at everybody. Draft picks of Swift-Petro-Sene and signing Wilcox are a whitewash, nothing to show for all of that.
by citizen zhiv on
Nov 19, 2008 8:20 PM PST
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Thomas and Davis are more proof
that the Clippers are where veteran journeymen go to die. At least Thomas is making some contribution. Davis2, for some reason, is a mess right now.
F-Elton!
by mikey p on
Nov 19, 2008 9:24 PM PST
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