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Utah 101 - Clippers 79

In losing the first three games of the season, the Clippers have suffered through a 17-0 run in a previously close game with the Lakers, blown an 18 point second half lead on their way to an overtime loss against the Nuggets, and now given up 18-0 and 28-2  runs in a tie game against the Jazz.  The fact that Denver and Utah were each playing without members of the US Olympic Team is just salt in the wounds - missed opportunities against a steady stream of formidable early season opponents.

So where is the first 'W' going to come?  Monday against a Utah team that just beat them by 22?  Wednesday against the Lakers who beat them by 38?  Next Friday against 3-0 Houston?  And for which, if any, of these games will Baron Davis return?  Or Marcus Camby?

While the Clippers were playing the Jazz even through the first half and all the way to a 60-60 tie with 5 minutes left in the third, I had the very distinct feeling it couldn't last.  Cat Mobley was unconscious, starting the game by hitting his first 5 shots.  He finished 8 for 10 in the first half; but he went 1 for 6 in the second.  Meanwhile, Al Thornton was being shut down by a variety of Jazz defenders, and Chris Kaman has yet to make a jump hook this season.  This team can't score.  They are shooting below 39% on the season.  However, I will say this for them - they are consistent.  They've shot between 38.1% and 39.7% in all three games.  If they crack the 40% mark this week it will be a cause for celebration.

There were two good things about this game, and they both have to do with Mike Taylor.  The first is that he clearly has the ability to really help this team.  The second is that MDsr apparently recognizes that.  With Baron Davis back in LA getting treatment on his sore hip, Jason Hart got the start at point guard as we knew he would.  However, at the end of the game, Taylor had logged 33 minutes to Hart's 15, deservedly so.  MDsr even gave the kid the second half start.  It will be interesting to see who gets the nod at the beginning of Monday's game.

Taylor has some tantalizing skills.  He is incredibly fast - he must be among the fastest players in the league with the ball.  He reminds me of Leandro Barbosa in that regard.  And after so many years of watching Clipper point guards who were congenitally incapable of finishing at the rim (remember Marko Jaric?), Taylor appears to be a very good finisher.  He's no Tony Parker - not yet anyway - but he has a combination of quickness and body control that allows him to get his shot against backpedaling defenders and at least last night, he was able to make those shots.  And he appears to have good range on his jump shot.

Don't get me wrong, he's got plenty to work on.  He needs to realize that you can't play the point at top speed the entire time.  When he figures out how to use a change of pace, he'll be much better.  He continually tries things that just aren't there - a dunk that he couldn't quite finish, a bounce pass through traffic that had no chance of reaching it's desitination, an ill-advised steal attempt that left him out of position - but these are all things that we can expect him to improve on, maybe even pretty quickly.

And that is the single biggest difference between Taylor and Hart.  Hart is a 30 year old of limited abilities who came into the league 9 seasons ago.  His ceiling is Jason Hart.  What you see is what you get.  He's not going to suddenly develop a J (although one wonders if Fred Vinson shouldn't totally rework his funky mechanics); he's not going to get better at breaking down defenses as he gets further into his 30s.  Playing Mike Taylor is an investment in developing a pretty decent future point guard.  The fact that he also appears to be a better option in the present is just a bonus, and makes the decision that much easier.

Finally, it must be pointed out that the Clippers offense looks so bad - really, truly, horrifyingly bad - while other teams remain capable of running coherent sets even with missing stars.  I'm not in the camp that says 'Injuries happen and you still have to win.'  That's clearly just not realistic - if the Clippers had lost Elton Brand and Corey Maggette this summer and replaced them with Jason Hart and Brian Skinner, they would have been picked as the worst team in the NBA, and rightly so.  So they're not going to win a lot of games when Baron Davis AND Marcus Camby are both out (or when just Baron Davis is out, for that matter).  But must they look this useless?  Yes, there are a lot of new players.  But this is actually the group that practiced together and played together in preseason, since Baron and Camby were sitting out then also.  Why can Brevin Knight go to Utah and look like he fits during his second game in Utah, when he never looked comfortable in LA.  I know, I know, he needs some good players around him.  But why can he throw a timing alley-oop to Ronnie Brewer after 20 minutes of playing time with the guy, when the Clippers basically didn't connect on an alley-oop for an entire season?  It goes without saying that MDsr is a defense-first kind of coach.  But do they work on offense at all?  Or do they just do defensive slides all day every day?  Because, let's face it, it doesn't take a lot of practice time to clear out the side for Mobley and stand and watch.  Which is what the Clippers offense consisted of last night.

A few other random observations, in bullet format since I can't come up with a clever way to integrate them:

  • Ricky Davis looks terrible.  I mean, it's not just that his shot's not falling - he's 3 for 16 on the season and 1 for his last 11.  But his shot just looks awful.  Everything is short - even the one that went in last night hit the front of the rim and took a friendly bounce.  As Robbie's dad always says, "Back of the rim, good.  Front of the rim, bad."  I don't know why that's true, but it feels true, and Robbie's dad wouldn't lie.
  • We've said it before, but it bears repeating.  Cat Mobley as a fourth scoring option and Tim Thomas off the bench are valid indicators of a solid NBA team.  Cat can still score the ball, and will eat up some matchups this season.  If opponents have to key on stopping Baron and Thornton and put their weakest perimeter defender on Cat he'll be a good option most night's.  Likewise Thomas has shown his skills in the first three games.  But Thomas is a poor to very poor rebounder for a power forward, and the Clippers are getting killed on the boards, and will continue to do so as long as he's in the starting lineup and playing 30+ minutes per game.  And while Mobley might be able to carry the team from time to time (like for a half against Utah), if Baron is out and Kaman and Thornton don't step up, there are going to be a LOT of '8 minutes without a field goal' stretches this season.
  • I mentioned this above, and I don't think it's hyperbole - Chris Kaman has literally not made a jump hook in three games.  At least not that I can recall.  The theory of Kaman is terrific.  A center who has an array of moves with either hand.  The practice of Kaman too often has been a different story.  Because it doesn't matter how many moves you have if the ball doesn't go in the hoop.  In fact, it would be far better to have no moves and realize it (Andris Biedrins) than to have every move but not be able to complete plays.  If the jump hook doesn't fall, what's he got left?  He can face the basket and shoot, which he's done a couple of times.  Or he can go to the spin move.  He got one dunk on that last night.  And he also had 5 turnovers spinning into traffic.  He's averaging a double double so far, and it must be mentioned that our expectations for the guy are pretty high (perhaps unrealistically high) given how disappointed we are.  But the difference between Chris Kaman, all star, and Chris Kaman, solid rebounding center, is his shooting percentage.  He's 10 for 32 so far this season.  
  • Ronnie Brewer is turning into a great player.  He's always been a good defender.  But he appears to be able to score this season.  Both his jump shot and his post up game looked significantly improved.  Two seasons ago, the Jazz were forced to play Derek Fisher at the two for lack of a better option.  From what I can tell, Brewer will be a significant contributor for them this season, meaning that the biggest weakness in their lineup is now a strength.  When Williams gets back, this team will be very, very good.
  • What is it with the Jazz and creepy looking seven footers?  Continuing in the tradition of Mark Eaton, the Jazz brought a couple of young bigs into the game during garbage time: rookie Kosta Koufos and second year player Kyrylo Fesenko.  A day after Halloween, those guys were still pretty scary.  Of course, Koufos could take a page out of Kaman's book and just get a different haircut.

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The Dunce does it again

I wonder what his half time pep talk is. Hope Barron will be back soon, I don’t think I can watch another game without him.

by FireDunleavy.com on Nov 2, 2008 12:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

His name is spelled Baron

Epic fail

Get me BD and 75 and I'm in

by John R on Nov 2, 2008 1:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe they meant Earl Barron.

The journeyman center.

The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.

by clarkpojo on Nov 3, 2008 6:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

next game...

IF baron doesn’t play, camby isn’t ready yet and we’re down by 15 or more by halftime…
Then kaman should just start hucking up shots… I’d like to see 20-35 shot attempts to try to get him in some kind of offensive rhythm. Every time down the court Kaman should have the ball in his hands at some point during every play even if he passes to someone else.

by cantthinkofagoodname on Nov 2, 2008 12:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

one more thing you didn't mention

Skinner had 4 blocks last night and he also had our one and only steal… so that’s a plus for Brian…

by cantthinkofagoodname on Nov 2, 2008 1:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I was happy and then I was sad

Clips looked pretty good in the first half. Eric Gordon played 4 minutes and had a layup with an and 1 , plus a three point basket. Where was he in the denver game when LA could not score for 7 minutes and where was he last night when the clips could not score again .
This trend of not being able to score in the second half but still keep running the same stupid plays that the other team defends is getting ridiculous.

by Petey Pablo on Nov 2, 2008 1:27 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The Clippers without Baron are the most boring team I have even seen. Why is Tim Thomas trying to post up Boozer. Take advantage of the fact that you have three point range and take boozer on the perimeter. I thought Thornton didnt get enough touches last night as well. Hart must be the most useless guy in the nba. He doesn’t do anything to help the team since his jump shot isnt falling. His minutes should have gone to eric gordon instead. One more thing I thought Kaman had a pretty good game last night. His shots might not be falling, but at least his trying to finish strong unlike the game against denver. Mark my words once baron and camby return those jump hooks start falling.

by clipschamps on Nov 2, 2008 1:49 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Very good breakdown, CS

Interesting to see some of the aggregate shooting percentages—all of that has to be getting extremely ugly at this point. At least Tim Thomas improved his free throw percentage, right ?

You mention Ricky Davis’ struggles, but leave out the failure to give Eric Gordon any minutes—and you helpfully provide the record of three intense, game-losing, crushing scoring droughts in all three games thus far. Of course it’s one thing to switch out Mike Taylor for Jason Hart, and something else to give Eric Gordon some of Ricky Davis’ minutes. We’ll see what happens, and seeing two teams that the Clips have already struggled against in the next two games should be interesting. And it’s worth noting that even if Camby and BDavis come back, that won’t affect the wing rotation. How much rope will Dunleavy give Ricky Davis? As you say, it’s not just that he is missing all of his shots. He’s not a force of any kind out there. But part of that, and the fortunes of Kaman and Thornton as well, could be helped immeasurably by getting BD back out on the court.

Better to struggle and get frustrated at the beginning of the season and then right the ship and compete, than to get 4 fool’s gold wins like last year and end up a hapless mess.

by citizen zhiv on Nov 2, 2008 3:08 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

good post zhiv

I agree that Gordon should get more playing time over Ricky D at this point, especially when we’re in one of those 0-20 drought and the other team has outscored us 30-0. Even if Eric Gordon were to go 0 for 7 or1 for 6 as Ricky Davis has done recently, it will still be more entertaining for the fans. Let the rookies learn if we’re going to lose games by 30-40 points anyways.

Not sure if Dunleavy is trying to bring the rookies along slowly and protect their fragile pscyhe, but the line-up and offensive sets he has put out so far doesn’t work. Our guys, with the exception of Thornton, are too slow and not athletic enough to go one on one in iso/clear-out plays. ClipperSteve is right; our offensive set is horrible and is painful to watch. I’ve seen more teamwork from 5 guys playing at a park. Watching Mobley or TT forcing and occasionally htting ridiculous shots over three defenders is horrible. You shouldn’t shoot over three defenders even if your name is Kobe.

And do we have to force the ball into Kaman out of every time out? Especially when all of our opponents collapse their defense and triple team him now when he goes into his spin move. You can’t blame injuries for that, it’s just plain bad basketball and the lack of any offensive game plan. I am beginning to move into FireDunleavy.com’s camp…if Dunleavy lost the team or if he is incapable of coaching a team without a true post up presence, then he needs to be fired or step down as coach.

by MichaelCage on Nov 2, 2008 8:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Our Focus

Obviously needs to be put toward the younger guys. Al Thornton, Kaman, Eric Gordon, Mike Taylor, etc.

Mobley & Thomas cannot be featured players in our offense if we hope to win. They are good role players/bench guys who are solid offensive threats but not feature guys, period.

by ghost_ride on Nov 3, 2008 1:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Even though it's so early...

…in the season, I’m afraid the only way this team can take the next step is to completely collapse to the point where the only option left is to replace Dunleavy as head coach.

by saxmanager on Nov 2, 2008 9:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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