Enjoy the Zach Randolph Era
by Bedhead on Nov 21, 2008 8:51 AM PST
Email
PrintOh, we loved it in Portland, and they loved it in New York. Maybe this is addition by subtraction? Subtraction by addition? I dunno. I wish you luck. Like most NBA fans, I have a soft spot for the Clippers (except against the Blazers). Zach Randolph is putting up some nice numbers this year, and it never hurts to have a SF that knows how to score.
http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/blog/
Knick fan reactions:
http://www.knickerblogger.net/?p=1039
Warriors fan reactions (who are kind of going insane right now):
37 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
Thanks Bedhead
MDSr still seems infatuated with ZBo. Of the deals to aquire him, I hate this one among the least.
It would be better if it was Crawford coming. Not much details yet it apepars.
Get me BD and 75 and I'm in
Interesting
The Clippers want to be competitive now. Forget about Bosh et al. in 2010.
What exactly are the Clippers going to do at SG? Apparently they intend to start Gordon. So the lineup would be:
BD
Gordon
Thornton
Z-Bo
Kaman or Camby
I suspect that the Clippers will trade Kaman for an SG now. How could they not? Who needs a center that has a good up and coming SG?
Dude, Kaman stays
He is the brightest spot at present.
F-Elton!
A swap of second round picks
Duh.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Nov 21, 2008 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
Thanks for the vague mystery post
For those wondering, there is a rumored trade involving the Clips, GSW and Knicks.
Clips would get Z-Bo
Dubs would get Crawford
Knicks would get Thomas and Mobley
As with all rumors, we’ll just have to let it play out.
Randolph would ail some of the scoring woes, and it would give some minutes to Gordon. But the Clippers would miss Cat’s stability on defense, and of course, the indispensible Mobley fade away. Thomas leaving would be a net positive.
Certainly kills the Clips chances in the 2010 FA sweepstakes.
F-Elton!
what I want to know
if the Clips acquire Randolph does that mean they’re really open to dealing Kaman?
USE THE SOFTWARE. Actions-> Rec/Flag. Reply to comments with the reply button. Rec good fanposts/fanshots so the crud gets pushed down.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Nov 21, 2008 9:13 AM PST reply actions
Good question
Thomas and Mobley are expendable from a future standpoint. But Mobley’s the starting 2 right now, and the other options there are Ricky Davis (shooting 29% on the season) and 19 year old Eric Gordon. I love Gordon, but is he ready to start?
So why do you thin out an already thin backcourt to add a third starting big?
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Nov 21, 2008 9:20 AM PST up reply actions
In this hypothetical
With Kaman, Cat and TT gone, thats just about 100% turnover.
Only Thornton and Davis3 remain?
Get me BD and 75 and I'm in
How would bringing in Randolph equate to open to trading Kaman?
Who would be our center, Marcus Camby? Who’s contract goes off the table in 2010? He would likely leave us the way things are going. This doesn’t do good for our players mentality at this point….we are just starting to gel and now we have this in the back of our heads?
The question is valid
Only because it would mean big men earning $10M plus. You can’t build a winning team bringing a $10M plus player off the bench – the cap math won’t work. Having Kaman, Camby and Z-Bo for two seasons would be counter-productive, I think. And Kaman’s the one with trade value.
My conclusion from all of this of course is, don’t trade for Z-Bo.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Nov 21, 2008 9:44 AM PST up reply actions
Kaman isn't going anywhere
You guys are WAY jumping the gun. Camby was never seen as a long term fixture on this team. He was always seen as a stop gap with a good contract. That’s what he’ll remain. Kaman will be this team’s center for many years to come. Dunleavy loves that guy.
The whole discussion...
Is based on a false assumption.
“IF the Clippers are trading Thomas and Mobley for Randolph, does it mean they are open to trading Kaman?”
The Clippers aren’t trading Thomas and Mobley to Randolph. End of discussion.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Nov 21, 2008 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
I understand that
But my point is that unless the guy we’re trading for is Dwight Howard, Kaman isn’t going anywhere. Dun would just as quickly put Kaman next to Z-Bo. Why not? Kaman played with Brand his whole career. It’s not that big of an adjustment.
Anyway, I’m glad it’s not happening…though I’d be lying if I said I didn’t want to get rid of Cat and TT.
I was gonna say that!
I guess I have to change the post I was writing.
Here’s a tip. If someone reports a three-team trade, that really looks like two different trades, something is fishy.
Harrington for Crawford works fine under the cap.
Z-Bo for Thomas and Mobley works fine separately.
So why a three team deal? Someone somewhere was confused.
By the way, this does not mean the Clippers and Knicks aren’t discussing Thomas and Mobley for Z-Bo. But it probably means that the certainty with which people were discussing an impending deal was misplaced. The Harrington for Crawford deal (which seems like a win-win given that Harrington was basically already out in Oakland) was the one that was on the brink of happening. The other deal is probably like a hundred others. Maybe discussed, but not very seriously.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Nov 21, 2008 9:50 AM PST up reply actions
Is Z-Bo really the best we can get for Cat and TT?
He is a solid offensive force and will be so for 3 more years. 20 and 10. Not a good defender. By reputation, not a good character guy. When coupled with a good defensive center, he’s not a bad option (again, disregarding the poor reputation).
Just how bad is that reputation? Anyone know?
Good question
I think right now it’s one of the better deals available, but if we waited until next season, when the summer of Lebron is only one year away, I would imagine several teams would be scrambling for those expiring deals.
btw, this is the problem with having a coach be GM. GM’s are supposed to have a long term vision and ensure that the team’s future is healthy. Coaches want to win right now at all costs…even if it’s mortgaging the future for a few extra wins today.
Z-Bo's Rep
Oh as for Z-Bo’s rep, he’s not known as a bad guy, just a lazy one. He plays no defense whatsoever and actually can hardly jump off the floor. He’s also a black hole in the paint.
Having said that, he’s like a lock at 20/10 a night and is an offensive force in the paint. I remember he would give it to Brand on a regular basis.
Eh…I don’t know…let’s see if this actually goes down.
I don't know him, but I know his reputation
He is truly an idiot on many different levels. But there is hope for everyone.
He is not a good fit with the Clippers, on balance.
F-Elton!
He won't be able to ...
memorize MDsr’s playbook!
by Newton Pham on Nov 21, 2008 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
He's a big who is shooting 43%
43% from your PF slot is a disaster.
Reputation aside, if the Clippers shooting percentage is terrible now, it will get worse when you take away your 57% shooter and replace him with a 43% one.
He has also started every game for the Knicks and has only 3 blocks on the year.
Get me BD and 75 and I'm in
We know
ZBO doesn’t block shots and has a low FG. So does MDSr, who has coached him before. Aren’t you going to defer to MDSr’s wisdom on this if it goes down?
Wasn't MDSr gone before Randolph?
Correct
MDsr never coached Randolph. The fascination remains though. Perhaps he watched Z-Bo supplant Sheed and developed an appreciation for him.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Nov 21, 2008 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
This trade makes no sense
I just don’t see how this makes sense in any way for our team.
Fortunately, it sounds like the deal might have fallen through:
http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/blog/
HOWEVER….the Clippers-Zach Randolph scenario we mentioned in the previous blog might not come to fruition.
Hey, that’s why we call them rumors.
So Newsday is reporting
that Z-Bo may or may not be traded to the Clippers? Solid.
In other news, I may or may not be signed by the Yankees.
F-Elton!
Dont do that
Everytime this thread pops up 1 New my stomach drops in fear of rumor confirmation.
Wait, I guess I just did it.
Get me BD and 75 and I'm in
Jax agrees with John R
Isn’t that one of the signs of the apocalypse? :)
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Nov 21, 2008 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
Apocalypse, here we come...
"Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted" – Albert Einstein
by Another son of Mike Smith on Nov 21, 2008 12:34 PM PST reply actions
Day of Judgement is here...
…and all of Clippers Nation is doomed to the Purgatory of watching Baron and Zach jacking up shots for all of eternity….this is a fate worse than the torments of hell.
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Certain photos copyright © 2012 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
