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Clippers vs. Heat - Game Preview and Open Thread

Miami @ Los Angeles Clippers


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2-13 8-8
Staples Center
November 29, 2008 - 7:30 PM
TV: FSN Prime Ticket
Probable starters:
Baron Davis
PG Mario Chalmers
Eric Gordon
SG Dwyane Wade
Al Thornton SF Shawn Marion
Marcus Camby
PF Michael Beasley
Chris Kaman
C Udonis Haslem

The Big Picture:

The Clippers have a dismal 2-13 record, second worst in the NBA.  However, three of the last five losses came down to the final possession, so the team is being more competitive.  In Wednesday's game versus Denver, they battled back from 13 down and had a chance to win at the buzzer, but Marcus Camby's three pointer came up a few inches short.  The team is also changing.  Zach Randolph made his debut for LA on Wednesday night, but started the game ice-cold, missing 7 of his first 8 shots.  And with Cat Mobley leaving town as part of the Randolph trade and Ricky Davis now resting his sore knees, 19 year old rookie Eric Gordon has become the starter at the shooting guard.  Gordon has led the Clippers in scoring in both his NBA starts, with 25 and 24 points in the last two games.  So if the addition of Randolph can start to help the team, and the opportunity for Gordon continues to help the team, then everything should be fine.  Right?  Any minute now, the wins will just start pouring in.   Chris Kaman, whose averaging 14 points and 9.5 rebounds per game and shooting 57% from the field, missed the final three quarters of the Denver game with plantar fasciitas.  The plan was to get a cortisone shot and be ready for this game; he's listed as questionable and will probably be a game time decision.

The Antagonist:

The Heat are 8-8.  They have not won more than two straight, nor lost more than two straight this season, and have not been more than one game away from .500.  Given that the team won only 15 games last season, it's pretty impressive that they're already more than halfway to that total after just 16 games.  You might be tempted to think that the team's improvement is attributable to second overall pick Michael Beasley - and he's been OK, averaging almost 14 points per game.  But make no mistake - there's one reason that the Heat are good again, and his name is Dwyane Wade.  After an injury-riddled season in which he missed 31 games and shot 47%, he's back at the top of his game.  He's led the Heat in scoring in 14 of their 16 games.  The key to stopping the Heat is containing Wade.  In their last two games, they lost by 38 in Portland as Wade scored a season-low 12, and followed that up with a 15 point win in Phoenix as he scored a season-high 43.  He's averaging 27.4 points and 7.5 assists per game.  Amazingly, the Heat are playing well, despite relatively modest contributions from former all-pro Shawn Marion, who is averaging fewer points than he has since he was a rookie 9 years ago.  The Heat are starting two rookies, in Beasley and point guard Mario Chalmers, along with Wade and Marion and Udonis Haslem.

The Subplots

  • Z-Bo.  Zach Randolph scored only 7 points in his Clippers debut, his lowest output of the season.  Whether it was the rust of a week off, or issues of getting integrated into a new season, or just on off game, let's hope that it doesn't happen again. 
  • D-Fending D-Wade.  The task of trying to keep Wade out of the lane will likely fall on Eric Gordon.  At the beginning of the season, MDsr was trying to protect his rookie from the trial by fire of being thrown into NBA games against the likes of Kobe Bryant.  Well, he no longer has that luxury.  Gordon has defended against Jason Kidd, Chris Paul and Chauncey Billups in the last few weeks - and he's done a good job.  His offensive talents are obvious, but he also has the potential to be the Clippers best perimeter defender.  It's also possible that Baron Davis will get the Wade assignment.
  • Shaun Livingston.  Former Clipper Shaun Livingston signed with the Heat prior to the start of the season.  He appeared in two games early in the season, but has only played in one since - two games ago against the Blazers. 
  • Going Big.  Even if Chris Kaman can play tonight, the Heat is a tough matchup for the Clippers' really big bigs.  Beasley has a perimeter game, as does Marion, and either Randolph or Marcus Camby is going to have to chase one of those guys.  Beasley did not start in their last game against the Suns and Shaq and Amare, but I expect he'll be back in the starting lineup tonight.
  • Get away game.  The Clippers schedule has been incredibly home friendly so far (although they have a 1-9 home record to show for it).  Following this one, 9 of the next 11 are on the road.  You think 2-13 is ugly?  It could actually get worse in December if the team doesn't get its act together.
  • UPDATES.  Ramona Shelburne has some injury updates posted on her blog, (hat tip to Citizen oasisman in the comments).  Kaman has been downgraded to doubtful, and Baron Davis is now listed as questionable, having come down with the stomach virus that kept Jason Hart and Brian Skinner home on Wednesday.  Crap.  With Ricky Davis also out, if Baron can't go the Clippers' backcourt rotation is reduced to Eric Gordon, Mike Taylor, Jason Hart and Mardy Collins.  I love Gordon and Taylor, but I'm dubious about playing them 48 minutes. 

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The Clippers WILL win.....

I’m not so sure about that statement, considering Miami looked fairly impressive in their victory. DWade is a beast this year and the supporting cast doesn’t look to shabby. I think victory is possible but is not guaranteed. They are 8-8 and we are 2-13 after all. We still have the mentality of a 9-6 team (because that’s where we assumed we would be due to our "talent"). I suspect our players have this mentality as well. The reality is, we are a 2-13 and we should be thinking in line with our record. Nothing is guaranteed, we are the underdog in every game and need to fight for our wins.

Hustle. Clippers hustle tonight please.

by Newtybar on Nov 29, 2008 9:24 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't really want to watch this one,

but I know I will. I forgive this team after every loss, no matter how frustrating. I hope that they can pull this one out, but we really need a sense of urgency on the court. I’m a little scared (Okay, really scared) of D-Wade after watching him last night and I don’t think that either B Diddy or EJ can really contain him which means that we’re going to have to keep the rest of Miami’s players in check.

I agree with Newtybar completely that we have to start fighting. Things aren’t going to come easy for any team with Clippers’ jerseys on. Just because we have the talent doesn’t mean we don’t have to work hard. Last night, I saw Kobe diving after a loose ball and the possession resulted in two points for the Lakers in a nice comeback against Dallas. I don’t like the man, but the “talented” Clippers need to take a page out of his book. The young guys need to keep doing what they’re doing and hope that the rest falls in line.

Go Clippers…

by WestsideBrandon on Nov 29, 2008 11:45 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I kinda like what I have seen the last 4 games (except @ New Jersey)

Clippers Have been playing a bit better but really need to have that sense of urgency from the start. Remember the under acheiving team from 06-07 that didnt start playing well until the last 15 games of the season , and they missed the playoffs by 1 or 2 games.

Please be active on DEFENSE. Defense. dEfEnCe. DeFeNcE!!

by Petey Pablo on Nov 29, 2008 12:06 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Baron now listed as doubtful

According to Ramona, Baron has come down with a stomach virus. It will be a tough game tonite.

http://insidesocal.com/clippers/

I love LAC.

by oasisman on Nov 29, 2008 12:43 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Look at the Mavs....

They started out jsut as bad as the Clippers, they are now 7-7 . If they can do it why not LA? if the Clippers can battle, scrape,crawl,punch, scratch, jump,pull, sweat, and try to get back to being .500 it would make my christmas.

by Petey Pablo on Nov 29, 2008 1:10 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

INJURIES

So sad.
Kaman is doubtful
and Baron is a game-time decision because he got that nasty stomach bug.

Sorry, we are the BEST team in LA!

by LAC on Nov 29, 2008 5:07 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WE WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

even with the worst call I have ever seen take that D Wade. Randolph was the star of the game. This trade is looking good. Oh and for once the clips finished the game with some very good play.

by bestclipfan on Nov 29, 2008 10:09 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah randolph play really well

but we cannot say inmediatly the trade is looking good considering how he play last game, after some more games conclusion should be taken not now.

by XXDC2XX on Nov 29, 2008 10:53 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well he was doing what wanted to

he rounded, scored alot, made shots and in the end easily got 20 and 10 and he also got his fair share of offensive rebounds although a lot were off his own missed shots. We would have been up a lot more if we had just made our free throws.

by bestclipfan on Nov 29, 2008 11:17 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Al Thornton's belief...

… is greater than your doubt.

by Redmosa on Nov 29, 2008 10:10 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what happen

at the end after the mike taylor foul?

by highriser on Nov 29, 2008 10:11 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Taylor foul

Clippers had a foul to give, Taylor gave it. Heat inbounded, every clipper ran at Wade, he shot an airball… game over.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Nov 30, 2008 12:59 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So what exactly happened ?
 Heres a recap of the game and replay of the final play at the end
http://www.nba.com/video/channels/top_plays/2008/11/29/nba_20081129_dotn.nba/index.html?player=whatsnew

Did wade actually call a time out in mid air ? (is it even possible) or did he step out of bounds ? or was a mistake to blow the whislte ?

by andrewexd on Nov 30, 2008 12:19 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

By the rule book

the ball should have been ours. You can not call a TO in mid air nor did it look like D wade made any motion to call one. And D wade hit and official who was out of bounds, and according to the rules the official is part of the court so if you hit an official who is out of bounds then you are out of bounds. So it should have been our ball. But it does not matter we got the W.

by bestclipfan on Nov 30, 2008 8:13 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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