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Inadvertent, Schminadvertent

According to Lisa Dillman in the LA Times writing about last night's final play:

[The officials] ultimately decided that Heat star Dwyane Wade had made contact with an official and caused an inadvertent whistle. Wade had collided after he picked off Baron Davis' attempted pass to Al Thornton with 7.2 seconds left.

This explanation is all fine and dandy, except for two things.  (1) It pretty much ignores what actually happened on the play and (2) when taken in the context of what transpired with the officials, it makes them come off as complete and total idiots.


They huddled to discuss the play for 60 seconds before initially awarding the ball out of bounds to the Clippers.  Let's assume that it was indeed an inadvertent whistle.  None of the three of them thought there were any violations on the play, and Kirkland's whistle sounded when Wade collided with him.  Fine.  What were they discussing?

Crew chief Greg Willard calls the group together and asks them what call they have.  Ron Olesiak says, "I got nothing."  Courtney Kirkland says, "I got nothing."  Willard asks who blew the whistle.  Kirkland says "I did, but that was inadvertent when Wade ran into me."  Done.  Easy.  Heat ball.

But that's not what happened.  Which begs the question, what the hell were they talking about?  What exactly is the series of events that leads them to award the ball to the Clippers, and then to reverse that with the explanation that there was never any out of bounds call to begin with?  If there was never any call, why did they conclude, after apparently careful consideration, that it was Clippers ball?  Does that make any sense to anyone?

Also, are there any rule book geeks out there who can speak authoritatively on the question of contacting a referee who is out of bounds?  If a player were to jump  across the end line, and make contact with the stanchion under the basket, but throw the ball back in bounds before he hit the ground, he would be considered out of bounds because the stanchion is out of bounds.  Right?  How is this different?  There's nothing magical about being on the floor out of bounds, as far as I know.

This is a non-explanation.

UPDATE: Tom Ziller writing for Fanhouse went to all the trouble of looking up the actual rule.  Thank FSM for Ziller - that kind of 'research' and 'fact-checking' just exhausts me.  At any rate, he verified that my first inclination was correct.  If Wade has the ball and comes into contact with Kirkland out of bounds, then he is out of bounds - LA ball.  And it's not open to interpretation.  So the ONLY way to justify the call they finally ended up with (I'm assuming that they actually know the rule since it's you know, their job) would be to assume that Kirkland wasn't out of bounds - something of a suspension of disbelief, given that he was actually falling against the scorer's table trying to get out of the way.  They can't even argue that Wade didn't touch him, since they inconveniently lost that explanation by saying that the collision is what caused the inadvertent whistle.  All in all, a none-too-proud moment for the officiating crew, who had the guts to get the call right the first time - and then for some reason got it completely wrong, giving a completely non-plausible explanation, under pressure from Dwyane Wade and his youthful ward Eric Spoelstra.  (How old is that guy?  14?)

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The case for the refs

If you listen to the whistle, it blew EXACTLY the moment Wade stole the pass – BEFORE he threw the ball to Marion, and BEFORE he collided with Kirkland. So perhaps they made the decision that it was an inadvertent whistle, and at that precise moment Wade had possession of the ball (and his pass to the other side of the court occurred before he touched Kirkland, but that’s a moot point). Miami ball.

Horrible explanation(s) by the refs, but the correct call. Blame Baron for an absolutely lazy and awful inbounds pass instead.

by supac on Nov 30, 2008 1:29 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If you read the original statement

…it states that the inadvertent whistle was caused by a collision with Wade. Hence wrong call.

This is the second time I have noted where the Clippers have been screwed by an overruled call (original call correct) during an important possession. I think the refs have it out for the Clips, no joke…or possibly the league. In any case, officiating this entire year has been a joke, what’s going on here?

by Newtybar on Nov 30, 2008 2:02 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just read my reply...

And it reads a bit snotty, but that’s not the intention. I just wanted to point out the original statement.

by Newtybar on Nov 30, 2008 2:03 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re:

Agree with Supac, the bottom line is that Baron was lucky we got the win after a terrible pass that you would expect from Gordon/Taylor but not from the Bruin.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 30, 2008 5:31 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's a valid point...

lost in the officials’ poor handling of the situation is the fact that the Clippers failed to inbound the ball successfully, when that’s pretty much the one thing they had to do. Last second execution continues to be dismal. Have they made a good play at the end of a game yet this season? Not on offense.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Dec 1, 2008 8:36 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

Interesting to see the other side. It makes me just say, ok, glad we got the V. It could have easily been a non-call and pass to 3 open on the offense for an easy dunk and we lose.

by Newtybar on Nov 30, 2008 3:32 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What I wonder is...

During the game, Wade is saying he called a timeout, but in that article there’s no mention of that. He’s talking about how he had a fast break and such. What’s the true story here. In either case, I don’t think there’s any doubt that he touched the ref. You can see Eric’s leg jolt to the side when DWade hit him….and then the pass off.

by Newtybar on Nov 30, 2008 3:36 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I never heard Wade say that...

I heard Milph say that, but I’m not sure if they overheard him or they were surmising.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Dec 1, 2008 8:36 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BD should have taken a TO

"Duck, Crab. Crab, Duck"
Roger Sterling - Mad Men

by Lawler's Law on Dec 1, 2008 1:22 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

bahaha HEAT fans saying that NBA refs are biased TOWARDS the CLIPPERS! ? thats a funny one.

by andrewexd on Nov 30, 2008 4:37 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was there

And it seemed like the whole night D-Wade was traveling and carrying the ball over – no calls. Traveling called on Al and Gordon. Baron and Gordon seemed to get fouled going to the rim – no calls. I sat in 116 so I didn’t have a good angle on most plays. But it definitely FELT like if the call could go either way, it would always go in favor of the Heat.

I am not a fan that incessantly complains that refs are out to get the Clippers. But this season seems to have a theme with officials about calling ticky tack fouls against the Clippers whenever they can while being blind to the other teams minor or sometimes major infractions.

I wish ClipperSteve could write to the league office with videos and actual rules, showing how many times the Clippers are having calls go against them unfairly.

by moKi on Nov 30, 2008 2:56 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am somewhat one of those fans.....

I haven’t incessantly complained for the last 12 years…however, this season thus far, in terms of officiating has been abysmal.

It doesnt take ClipperSteve, anyone could write the league office and submit videos with actual rules.

by Newtybar on Nov 30, 2008 3:28 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agree

I couldn’t agree with you more. I find myself screaming at the tv numerous times per game on what bad calls the clipper’s get. The refs aren’t going to decide the games we’ve lost by 20, but the one point losses are effected by calls. Little ticky tack fouls and traveling and other stupid things always go against the clips, but never against their opponent. On nba.com’s play by play of the game last night, it goes wade steal and then heat timeout, so not sure if they awarded the heat with a timeout during that play, or after the “inadvertant” whistle. If it was a timeout during the split second he stole the ball, I’m not sure who called it after watching the play several times. Doesn’t matter now. I’m hoping for a big win streak and hoping to get back to .500 sometime before February…

by besaje on Nov 30, 2008 10:24 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For Instance

STOP CALLING CARRY OVERS ON US and maybe on some of the superstars that get away with it every single time

by civicdude590 on Nov 30, 2008 3:51 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kind of funny

After Simmons had been writing about the bumbling at the end of games. Clips managed to get the win, but they need to clean things up quite a bit. Almost negated an extremely satisfying 4th quarter run.

by citizen zhiv on Nov 30, 2008 6:19 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Last 90 seconds...

pretty much qualified as bumbling. On Wade’s three pointer, two different bigs set high screens for him, and two different Clippers (Randolph and Camby) failed to show. Mike Taylor was completely hung up, and Wade drained a wide open three. Sound familiar? Roger Mason?

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Dec 1, 2008 8:39 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Extraordinary stat

While I agree there’s no accounting for the decision on that play, there was another thing that was really unusual for the Clips — free throw attempts. The Clips had 35, Miami had 11. That’s about the number of FTAs that Wade has by himself, usually.
I don’t know to credit the Clippers defense, or if Wade was tired from back-to-backs, or if the refs were kind.
BTW, the Clips missed twelve of those 35. No reason the game should have been this close.

by pipedreams on Dec 1, 2008 9:58 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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