Fine - Lets talk about Kaman - once and for all.

Would that it were true, Citizen Bob. But you know and I know that you’ll bring it up again.

I could nitpick on your list. The guy has been top 5 in rebounding and blocked shots (when he’s been healthy, yeah, yeah, I know, he’s injury prone) for two seasons now. Exactly how much better do you want him to be in those categories? And to say that he has bad hands is simply not correct. Kwame Brown has bad hands. Chris Kaman has very good hands. He has lapses in intensity and focus that cause him to lose balls, but he has good hands.

But even if we all accepted your premise as gospel, I still think your conclusion is flawed. If Kaman is a tradeable asset being overvalued by this community (you may very well be correct about that), and if shooting guard / wing is a major weakness on the team right now (no question about that), then trading Kaman for help on the wing is an OK idea. But this team is going nowhere this season – what’s your hurry? If Eric Gordon starts 70 games this year, and sucks in 55 of them, it’s all good if that means he’ll be better next year. There’s just no urgency to solving this problem.

But propose a trade that gets the Clippers YOUNGER on the wing (at least younger than Raja Bell), and you may be on to something. Get me some draft picks for Kaman. Get me something that at least has the potential to be good in the future.

By the way, did you see the FanPost from the Bulls fan? He proposed Luol Deng for Kaman (after we told him he wasn’t getting Kaman for Nocioni). And I said, yeah, I’d do that trade.

No one’s holding out for LeBron. But there’s a lot of other options between Bell/Diaw and LeBron.

so they would be splitting the 96 min of the 2 positions.

I think standing pat is the prudent course at this time. I too really like Davis3, but he is nowhere near as good as Kamen, also Camby at age 34(35 in march) is probably only ours through his current contract.

He’ll end up getting a MLE type deal for a few years once his current deal runs out. Unless we want to overpay he’ll go to the team that needs a good backup big. He’ll be very coveted at the trade deadline is which is why we sit pat for now and wait for teams to break from the pack. A few teams on the cusp of contention will make a play for him to either block him from going to another contender or to boost their own chances. I think Kaman and ZBo can play together effectively and given their respective ages give us a solid 4 and 5 for the next few years.

Terry has a long contract that last 4 more years. It might make us a mediocre team for a year or two but starting two shoot first pg-types doesn’t lead us in any direction.

I still think Josh Howard for Kaman is a smart move for both teams. Howard is young (28), signed to a solid contract (like Kaman) and fits a need. The only real caveat is we are too far out to make the playoffs this year so this deal is already too late. Probably better off moving out Camby, stockpile some talent and make alot of moves again during the offseason, hopefully with a new front office in place.

I feel like we shouldn’t be so quick to make a move. We’ve already made one and we should let that pan out. I think another move is our tar baby; it’s just going to get us deeper in the hole we are already in. If we do make a move, I agree completely with CS that it needs to get us younger. Making moves for veterans would only help us in the near future, and we don’t have much hope for this year. We’ve got some good pieces, and if we get more they need to fit into our future plans.

Also, I’ve completely stopped trusting ESPN. They don’t know what they’re talking about because I doubt any of the people who created that list have ever taken the time to watch a Clipper game (not that I blame them). I think that it’s pretty obvious that EJ is AT LEAST in the top 20, if not much higher. This year is a chance for him to get better, and we’ve already seen some good flashes from the kid. So, I wouldn’t quite call that a liability.

And yes, I did just make a Brer Rabbit reference on CN.

not bad at all. But do the numbers work? I checked the “trade machine” and I can’t get it to run. Az has a trade restriction. But the money looks close enough. I think I’d pull the trigger as long as we don’t have to give up the pick. BUT, counting on Jordan to be a starting C at this point is folly. We really have no idea. Not sure I’m okay with being “screwed at C” if he doen’t pan out. What if we swapped Camby instead of Kaman and WE throw in the pick?? Then I’m all about it.

How many legit seven footer centers are out there with Kaman’s skills? He’s nifty around the basket with both hands, seriously big, a good defender, a great rebounder. Guys like him are as scarce as hen’s teeth. And his contract is very decent for what he brings. I mean, there’s only a few guys in the whole league who come close to what he can do. Yao, Bynum, Howard, maybe Oden some day, Brad Miller? Jermaine? Kaman’s certainly better than the last two … and you’d never casually consider trading the other guys, so why trade Kaman? I really don’t get it. And it’s not because you’ve got Camby… he’s great, but pretty old, and not as big or strong with none of Kaman’s interior power. Injuries… okay, yeah, he spends too much time off the court, but he’s not as bad as Yao, and Bynum lost half a season last year, Oden the entire season. This is dumb.