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Coming out of the shadows and an international perspective of beeing a fan.

First, let me introduce myself. I’ve been a Clipper fan for as long as I’ve been following the NBA, going diehard when my favorite player outside the organization was acquired for a 2nd overall draft pick back in 2001. Some opinions defining me as a citizen. I’m pro Dunleavy, I don’t think we’ll ever see a consistent Kaman 2.0 and the time for this team to win is next year otherwise we have to go into rebuilding mode.

I’m dedicated enough to read the times, and since last year this blog, every morning while eating breakfast but I’ve never been to a Clipper game. Before last season and the evolution of torrent sites, I’ve only been able to watch about 30 games on TV. I have actually never ever met another Clipper fan in real life. The thing is, being from Sweden living 5528 miles away from the Staples Center, it’s as good as it gets.

Basketball isn’t a very popular sport in Sweden. Our national team was playing a very important game in the city that I live in and about 2000 people showed up to watch the game. Sometimes we get a NBA game on national TV but it’s almost always a “laker-celtic” type of game. If you wanted to watch a Clipper game before high speed Internet came to town, you had to order your NBA games on VCR cassettes from Germany. They actually had a good selection of NBA and NCAA games during each season and I do have the ’98 Duke (with the honorable Corey Maggette and some other guy) North Carolina game on tape. If someone wants it, maybe to set it on fire or something during a voodoo ritual, I’ll happily send it to you.

You people that live in the LA area, I hope you understand how lucky you are being so close to the Staple Center. And how happy fans as myself are that you are there supporting the team during the games. Man I whish I also hade the opportunity to see all the games and then watch pickup basketball at UCLA during summer. Keep it up people! It’s rough times like these that really defines us as fans. When we win that title in 10 or 20 years, we will remember that Memphis game back in ‘08 and others similar to it and victory will be sweeter then for any other fan of any other team.

I also would like to thank ClipperSteve and all other people (mike p, citizen zhiv among others) contributing to the site.  Even though I wont be posting much, writing in English takes to much time and energy, I do read everything that’s being written on the site and it’s all excellent stuff making a lonely fan feel a little bit closer to the game.

As for the 31 of December, boo and whistle a little bit extra for me cause I wont be able to go to the game but oh, I would love to be there. Sometimes in European soccer when a traitor comes back to town, a pig’s head is thrown on to the field by the fans. Time to bring this tradition into the NBA?

Oh, and a question. Is there any other international Clipper fans reading or writing on Clipsnation?

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sweden dawg

Hey Marten-

I’m in the midst of studying for my last finals as a college student, though I felt I had to respond to your poignant post. After reading it I felt so honored to love an organization like the clippers that has fans that stretch across the globe, even if they are so few and far between. The thing I’ve noticed around these Clipper forums in the long time I’ve been a fan of them and the small time that I’ve been a part of them, is that the fans are some of the most loyal in sports. How could they not be? It takes a special kind of person to follow and analyze a team for years on end with little satisfaction and always the promise of next year. Hearing your plight about following a team like the clippers 5500 miles is no small feat. It’s fans like you that keep the fire for this team burning after all these years, and I feel especially lucky to call myself a fan alongside of you.

p.s. loving the intensity these last few games. good post game recap clippersteve

-marek

by MarekTheBrave on Dec 14, 2008 5:44 PM PST reply actions  

Citizen Marten

We’ve got a few other internationals on the site. Citizen edu_argentina (who has taken the losing lately even harder than most) and our german citizen King Henne come to mind. And of course there’s Ricky, who is a Sixers blogger and a Clippers fan, placing him in a unique position on New Year’s Eve.

By the way, your english is great. I was reading the post and assuming you were an ex-pat living in Sweden at first. I don’t know how much effort it is to write for you, but you write well. So don’t worry about that part.

I lived in France for 3 years… so I can relate to the idea of rooting for a team that no one else knows exists.

But the interwebs is amazing. A lost soul like yourself can find kindred spirits in the virtual land of Clips Nation.

A few years back, the University of Pacific made the NCAA tournament and played well. Their best player was Christian Maraker, and I really thought he had a chance to become the first Swede to make it to the NBA (that is unless you count Miles Simon). Some day.

Welcome. I’m glad you’ve come into the light.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Dec 14, 2008 6:15 PM PST reply actions  

I agree

you write like you have been speaking English all your life.

Welcome Marten it is good to have another fan here in clipsnation : )

by bestclipfan on Dec 14, 2008 6:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks!

Actually, if you want to stretch it, Joakim Noah has a Swedish passport. But he isn’t playing for the national team, isn’t a product of Swedish basketball at all and doesn’t even speak the language.

There one kid, Jonas Jerebko that’s getting good playing time in Italy right now, hopefully he’ll be drafted in ’09. Nowadays, all the really talented you players prefers to play in a first class euro league before trying out for the NBA . Before, the NCAA was the place to go. And now depending on the Brandon Jennings experiment, maybe other American high school players will do the same.

Another story is Swede Rudy Mbemba that attended draft workouts for a couple of teams including the Clippers this summer without any success.

by Marten on Dec 15, 2008 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Marten has lots of good ideas........

“As for the 31 of December, boo and whistle a little bit extra for me cause I wont be able to go to the game but oh, I would love to be there. Sometimes in European soccer when a traitor comes back to town, a pig’s head is thrown on to the field by the fans. Time to bring this tradition into the NBA?”…..

Maybe we can hire Mo Cheeks to get inside info on the 76ers before the 31st……….kind of like how they do in the NFL when a player gets released?

by tha MaDD Sientist on Dec 14, 2008 7:52 PM PST reply actions  

Dear Citizen, dear friend, dear sir...

Yes… Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. This is why I’m a Clippers fan. This is why I can’t let go. Fans like you define what I love about the Clippers. Thanks for wording your feelings so eloquently. Unfortunately I can’t afford to go to a game right about now, but I only live 5 miles from Staples Center (guilty much?)…
I will be booing and whistling as loudly as I can… hopefully the traitor hears me at Staples… and hopefully you’ll hear me all the way in Sweden. I’ll be listening for you response.

Best Regards

Oh me, oh my!!!! The Red Baron has come home!!

by Clipper T on Dec 14, 2008 9:25 PM PST reply actions  

I agree

You are a great reflection of the Clipper Nation majority. Posts like these remind me of why I love the game and love to be apart of a community of non-fairweather fans. We will all be booing at the top of our lungs come December 31.

by Newton Pham on Dec 14, 2008 9:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Pig's head

Does anyone have a pig’s head? Might be tough getting it into Staples that night.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Dec 15, 2008 8:58 AM PST reply actions  

Read the post

Citizen Marten pointed out a European soccer tradition involving a traitor on the other team and a pig’s head. Any butcher’s in Clips Nation? Citizen pipedreams could throw a rusty pipe at him, I suppose.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Dec 15, 2008 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

How to treat a traitor...

The pigs head will most likely prove difficult to sneak into Staples as CS suggested. I propose a solution…
A very easy thing to bring into a basketball venue is a jersey. I for one, own a Brand (name is now crossed out) jersey that I would be willing to donate to anyone willing to throw it on the court during the pregame introductions…
I can just see it now. Even if it’s only a dozen jerseys that get flung onto to the court, I think this would be a very poignant statement. What if it was two dozen… 50? 100? I think this would be awesome.
What say you fellow Citizens? Shall we organize a coordinated Jersey-Throwing protest? (Brand jerseys only of course)

Oh me, oh my!!!! The Red Baron has come home!!

by Clipper T on Dec 15, 2008 12:10 PM PST reply actions  

Oh... that's pretty good

I have one.. maybe two or three (not sure if ClipperMax and ClipperZoe’s Brand jersey already got tossed).

I also like the jersey modification that someone brought up on this site once… tape over the B and the D and you’ve got R-A-N 42.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Dec 15, 2008 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Our fearless leader sounds like he's offered his blessing...

So let’s do this. I’ll start trying to find additional ammo. If we pull it off, we’ll owe it all to our passionate new friend from Sweden.

Oh me, oh my!!!! The Red Baron has come home!!

by Clipper T on Dec 15, 2008 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah...

I was thinking the same thing. I want to be around for the game so I boo his sorry ass all night. Also, it’s going to be difficult for me to reach the floor with my jersey from section 218….unless I have a slinshot or one of those air gun things…I like the idea though.

by Clip Show on Dec 15, 2008 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

these are good questions...

The question of arm strength is the obvious one. There are a limited number of people who will be able to reach the floor from their locations. If we could count on the lower level fans to relay the jerseys, then it would work fine. Of course, there will be a fair number of Sixer fans there as well.

Would they kick people out? (Obviously, they’d have to know who did it.) I dunno. I’d think they might want to look the other way in this case.

We’ve got two weeks more… we can brainstorm on this sum. Let’s move the discussion to it’s own thread in a FanPost.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Dec 15, 2008 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

actually my seats are somewhat close to the floor

and if attendance is as low as it was before I would be able to reach the floor, although I would be a little afraid of getting kicked out.

by bestclipfan on Dec 15, 2008 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I have got two

but one is autographed and I plan to hold on to it until he retires then sell it on Ebay.

by bestclipfan on Dec 15, 2008 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm definitely digging this.

I still have mine. At least it’s good for something.

by WestsideBrandon on Dec 16, 2008 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Tix For Clipper T

Sorry to hear financial circumstances prevent you from attending a game. I’ve got season tickets and my wife usually refuses to go on New Years eve so my guess is she won’t want to go this year either and I may have some tickets for you. Send me your email address to baseball@prodigy.net and if we don’t go (highly probable) I’ll hook you up. If we do go I’ll send you some for another game when I’ve got extras.

by Clipster Hipster on Dec 15, 2008 9:40 PM PST reply actions  

where do i sign up!?

belts a tightening (not the car seat kind unfortunetly) all around!

"Duck, Crab. Crab, Duck"
Roger Sterling - Mad Men

by Lawler's Law on Dec 15, 2008 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Well played sir...

Very nice gesture hipster. I commend you.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Dec 15, 2008 10:16 PM PST up reply actions  

BIENVENIDO A BORDO MARTEN !!

Nice to have another fan, but it´s easy to jump on the bandwagon on a winning streak….joking.
I dont know if it took you much time to make the post, but you sound American to me…
I share most of your opinions and feelings of being a fan in the end of the world.
I´ve never met a real Clipper fan in person either… the closest thing to a fan was an old buddy from grade school who I ran across last year, and told me he lived in LA. My first question was: ¨are you a Clipper Fan?¨. Sadly for him, he answered he wasn´t, but he has had go to some games, as tickets weren´t that expensive…so I only know firsthand a person who has been to the games.
Well, see you around sir, and keep enjoying breakfasts… I know they are so much tasty with a great blog and some Clipper wins!!!!

by edu_argentina on Dec 16, 2008 6:52 AM PST reply actions  

We've got something in common.

I live in LA and I haven’t met a whole lot of Clipper fans in person. You’re not missing out on much. That’s why I keep coming here.

by WestsideBrandon on Dec 16, 2008 11:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay Lawler

You’re invited too. Need your email. Hate to waste the seats and it’s kind of depressing now that the place is half empty all the time. Need to keep it filled up.

by Clipster Hipster on Dec 16, 2008 4:01 PM PST reply actions  

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