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Dallas 100 - Clippers 98

After trying very hard to give a game away on Saturday, the Clippers put in the extra effort to get the job done tonight.  It just shows what you can do if you really put your mind to it. 

Leading the Heat by 8 points with 82 seconds left in the last game, the Clippers gave up the final 7 points and also gave the Heat one shot at the win which came up short.  Tonight, they led by 7 with a little more than 2 minutes to go, and allowed the Mavs to score the final 9 points for the 2 point victory.  When JJ Barea made a three pointer in the final minute it was the Mavericks first lead of the game.  So for the record, the Clippers led for 47 minutes and 10 seconds, and the Mavs led for 50 seconds.   But the Mavs led the only time it counts.

The Clippers actually had to work extra hard to give this one away.  They led by 15 in the fourth quarter, and by 12, 96-84, with 5 minutes to play.  In the final 5 minutes they were outscored 16 to 2. 

During those final 5 minutes, the Clippers seemed to be simply trying to run out the clock.  Dallas switched to a zone defense, and the Clippers seemed to be content to pass the ball around the perimeter until they forced a long jumper late in the clock.  Zach Randolph, who had 27 points on 12 for 17 shooting and had been basically unstoppable in his first 37 minutes of play, was essentially non-existent in the final 5 minutes.  Maybe they haven't had enough practice time with Z-Bo against zones.  Truth be told, the Clippers have looked absolutely terrible against zones all season; I don't know why more teams don't play it against them.  Everyone's going to credit Carlisle with the brilliant adjustment to switch his defense.  Here's my question:  what took you so long genius?  You could have won this game by 50 if you'd just started in the stupid zone!

In their final 9 possessions, the Clippers turned the ball over 3 times, and took 4 long jumpers - one of which actually went in.  They did manage to get one good shot - a short baseline jumper by Eric Gordon with just under a minute to go and LA still clinging to a 2 point lead.  If that jumper goes in, they probably hold on for the win.

On the final few possessions, Gordon looked like the 19 year old rookie he is for the first time since he's been in the starting lineup.  On one possession in the final 2 minutes, he took a long three with 8 seconds still on the shot clock.  That in and of itself is not a great idea, but you like the kid's confidence, and he's been making long three's all season.  The trouble is, he missed badly - as badly as I've ever seen him miss.  The long rebound led to an easy fast break and a layup for Jason Terry.  On his baseline jumper a couple possessions later, EJ really looked tentative - he looked like he did not want to take the shot. 

These are some of the growing pains of having a 19 year old in the starting lineup.  He's going to be a great player, and he's already pretty good.  But he seemed  overwhelmed in the fourth quarter of this one.

That makes half of their last eight games that the Clippers have lost on the last possession.  What's particularly disconcerting is that they have failed to get a decent shot in each and every one of those situations.  Against the Spurs, needing a three, the complex play they ran resulted in Baron Davis running away from the basket as time expired.  Against the Sixers, Baron tried to create and forced a wild shot at the buzzer.  Against the Nuggets, they chose not to call a timeout, and ended up with Marcus Camby taking his one and only three point shot of the season on the final play.  Tonight, whether it was MDsr's play or simply Baron free-lancing, Davis just dribbled for awhile and then shot a long three. 

And yet again the Clippers made a relative NBA unknown look like an All Star.  Continuing in the tradition of Paul Millsap, Beno Udrih, Anthony Morrow and Roger Mason, JJ Barea had a season high 15 points and 6 assists on 7 for 11 shooting in 25 minutes of play.

What's truly frustrating about this game is how thoroughly the Clippers outplayed the Mavericks for 43 minutes.  But in the final 5 minutes, they lost the game to a junk lineup (JJ Barea and Brandon Bass joining Kidd, Nowitzki and Terry) playing a junk  defense.

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So upset

I’m too upset right now to post too much, but I will say this – For 3 quarters tonight, I saw our season turn around. I thought tonight would be the beginning of a new season for our Clips. I haven’t seen us play that well all year. And then just like that it slipped through our fingers.

If the team had kept it up, I really believe the team would have made a real run at the playoffs.

All that was shot to hell by a JJ Barea triple.

by madglove on Dec 2, 2008 11:24 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Disgusted...

So disgusted, I don’t even want to type. I cannot fathom, that final play was what MDsr had designed. I’m really sick of seeing BD hold on to the ball, dribble it around and huck up prayer shots in the final seconds.

Zach Randolph, didn’t get many touches in the final possessions, lonnnng drought. I am sick of these long droughts.

by Newtybar on Dec 2, 2008 11:24 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I couldn't have scripted it better

If I could script a game that would get a coach fired, this would be it.

by FireDunleavy.com on Dec 3, 2008 12:03 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But what happens

when he still doesn’t get fired? Then what?

by madglove on Dec 3, 2008 12:19 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's why I canceled my season tickets.

I’m trying to find another team. One that will beat the Lakers.

by FireDunleavy.com on Dec 3, 2008 9:34 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come on

Why would you think MDSr would ever be fired? They gave him a raise and extension after he screwed up the Phoenix series (see prior post discussion). The best we can hope for is a competent GM.

by Jax on Dec 3, 2008 9:35 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Then Fire Phil Jackson too

Exact same thing happened to his boys last night.

And his collapse to Phoenix makes the Ewing play look like…well one play compared to losing a 3-1 lead.

But then these things are not what smart people base their decisions on.

Its really a shame that BD can’t deliver.

Get me BD and 75 and I'm in

by John R on Dec 3, 2008 10:12 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah - John R pounces

I wasn’t advocating firing MDSr. I was just pointing out for those who are advocating that now that it ain’t gonna happen.

It’s funny, though, that John R would equate Phil (9 rings) Jackson with MDSr. Particularly since as he routinely points out John R thinks so very highly of his own intellect.

Finally, yes it’s too bad that MDSr the GM signed a PG that John R doesn’t think can deliver because his game is very well known. Surprising that John R would deliver such a searing indictment of MDSr as GM.

by Jax on Dec 3, 2008 10:21 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't understand...

how you can defend MDsr. His team is 3 and 15. And he has a LOT of talent to work with. Seriously, he’s a complete joke. I know you don’t place as much value on coaching as I do, and frankly we can agree to disagree. One question though. What would it take for you to think he should be fired? An 0-82 season with nothing but all stars? Sorry. I’m not trying to come after you, but I’m so pissed I simply refuse to let MDsr off the hook. That goes for BD too. He really sucks this season. Bad decision after bad decision.

Oh me, oh my!!!! The Red Baron has come home!!

by Clipper T on Dec 3, 2008 8:53 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

Great post. Unfortunately, you’ll never see anything negative about MDSr from John R. I think John R’s his cousin or something.

by Jax on Dec 3, 2008 8:55 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We gave him an extension

Because he is the most successful Clipper coach in recent history.

by Newtybar on Dec 3, 2008 11:42 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You don't find teams.....

You either like a team or you don’t. You’re either a fan or you aren’t and you stick with them through thick and thin.

Maybe you should check on why you became a fan in the first place. However, if you feel like being a Clipper fan is no longer enjoyable for you, maybe you should find another team.

I haven’t seen a single positive comment, nor a constructive negative one (no, “stands were empty last night” doesn’t count).

by Newtybar on Dec 3, 2008 11:41 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The team played well, until...

until BD thought he had to take the game in his hands. He has a high self esteem that is leading the team directly to losses. Some other player will have to step up and take the ball out of him in the final minutes.
¨ BD, the Anti-Clutch¨ . Clipper Steve, can this be the title of your next post?

by edu_argentina on Dec 3, 2008 3:57 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you know

i would rather think we have decided to tank the season for some weird reason…than to accept that we are capable of screwing a game in such an idiotic way…..i was gonna post : yesterday winning this game was key for a 3-1 trip, know winning game at houston is key for a 4-0 trip….know i think we will be lucky to get a 2-2 trip….lossing a game because they play better than you four 5 minutes is just wrong…blewing a 12 point lead in the last 5 minutes is just wrong..this is just depressing

by XXDC2XX on Dec 3, 2008 5:24 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Overall

I thought the team played fairly well, especially being shorthanded. I think the bench scored something like 7 points, leaving the remaining 91 points to the starters. Paul Davis did some good things defensively, but I think having Kaman in there would have certainly been an improvement.

In the fourth, the Clippers just stopped playing defense. Couldn’t get a stop. Why was Jason Terry still getting so many good looks? When a guy is that hot, at least foul him hard before he can shoot it. The coaches may want to look at the previous 5 games of their upcoming opponents to see who is in the zone. They would have seen that Jason Terry has been lights out lately.

Have to give the Mavs some credit here, too. They never stopped playing (once they started, anyway). Dirk knocked in some huge three’s late to get it close.

Why the Clips stopped going in to the amazing Zach Randolph, I do not know. He was brilliant when he was getting the ball. I kept hearing about how ZBo can’t pass and doesn’t play any D, but I saw some nice passes tonight (despite 4 TO’s), and he isn’t exactly getting killed on D. Plus, the dude can just shoot it. Period. Better than EB.

BD was simply unstoppable early. Jason Kidd is a washed up defender. He had no answer for Davis.

AT had another solid game. I like what I have seen lately. Attacking rather than settling, which actually makes his jumper better. He hit a few tonight.

EG had 3 blocks. Not bad for an undersized rookie 2 guard. But that late 3 that he missed shook his confidence, so that he hesitated on the next one. Believe it or not, I think that Ricky Davis may have been a little better in the late game situation. But hey, this is all good experience for the Rook.

Camby had another solid performance, but I do have a question about him. What is it with the inbound passing that is such a problem for a veteran? How many of these has he bungled this year? I kept hearing what a great passer he is, but I have seen some sloppy ones.

These are the games the Clips have to win if they are to make a playoff push. They played 45 minutes of really good ball tonight, good enough to hang with most teams. On the road, short handed against a hot Mavs team, I think they did ok.

Not that completely choking at the end doesn’t hurt.

F-Elton!

by mikey p on Dec 3, 2008 6:52 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Zone

The team clearly got complacent. Up 12, especially after Dallas missed three straight threes on a single possession, you could kind of see them get the look that they had it in the bag.

Baron and Z-Bo had been doing their damage one-on-one. Thornton had mostly been scoring in transition. They just didn’t adjust when Dallas went to the zone, especially combined with the complacency. And if you don’t get stops you don’t get transition buckets (not to mention that the transition buckets stop when you decide to walk the ball up). It’s not a good excuse. I called it a ‘junk lineup playing a junk defense for a reason.’ How many times has JJ Barea been on the floor with Kidd and Terry this season? I’d wager that was the first time. How many times has he been in during crunch time? Same. Why? Partly because he’s a defensive liability. Dallas went to the 2-3 zone because there was no other way to hide their really bad defenders. Unfortunately, the Clippers made no attempt to adjust and attack the zone. Where was the high post passer? Did they make a single pass into the interior of the zone?

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Dec 3, 2008 8:11 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We did get complacent

…. we have been doing that all year. Play to the end! It looks like we were just trying to hold the lead and lost the killer instinct. You don’t do that, you pummel the opponent into the ground. Bottom line is, players think the team is better than they are. Someone has to drill it in their heads, YOU ARE A 3-14 TEAM, you are not better than every other team out there! GET A FREAKING WIN!

by Newtybar on Dec 3, 2008 8:49 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It really might be a conditioning problem

We play well for 3 quarters and then we just slow down and disappear. I am still perplexed why the ball only touched Zach Randolph’s hands twice in the last 8 minutes (or seemed like it). Sure he bumbled one and missed a shot, but he’s the go-to guy. He has proven he can score.

Time for a new trainer, bye bye Jason Powell.

by Newtybar on Dec 3, 2008 8:51 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CS - the reason why Dallas didn't play the zone earlier

is that they were behind by double digits. Teams typically don’t play zone defenses when behind by so much because zones burn up so much time. Even if they know the other team isn’t good against the zone. Teams that are losing by double digits can’t afford to burn time. Until they get desperate. Which is what happened last night.

I didn’t see the game, but I watched it unfold by stats at work. This team has the player tools to win (yes they were playing a short handed team, but they were on the road). Now it is up to the coach. Last night the team appeared unprepared to beat a zone. Clearly this coach is far more comfortable with offensive players that he can dump the ball into on isos like zbo. Doesn’t require much coaching genius or preparation. Zones (which are far more prevalent today than 10 years ago) require much more preparation and direction to beat. No more excuses.

by Jax on Dec 3, 2008 9:34 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Zone defense

was illegal 10 years ago. I think 2001 was when the NBA eliminated the “illegal defense” rule. FYI.

by supac on Dec 4, 2008 4:48 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Personnel

They were playing the zone to hide their individual defensive flaws. The Mavs had no one who could guard Zach, no one who could guard Baron… and with JJ Barea on the floor at about 5’11", it got worse. (BTW, Barea was great – I’m really impressed with the guy.)

There’s a reason that not many teams play zone in the NBA. NBA players are supposed to be too good on offense to be stopped by a zone.

By the way, I should think that zones “are far more prevalent today than 10 years ago” given that they were illegal 10 years ago.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Dec 3, 2008 9:53 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know

They couldn’t stop the Clippers’ inside game, and as you said the Clippers don’t play well against zones, and since they had to stop Zbo, they played the zone despite the fact that they were down so much. I guess you could say that the fact that they couldn’t stop Zbo is a defensive flaw, but he presents a matchup problem for most teams I suspect. Perhaps the fact that JHO was out is a defensive flaw. Either way, they had to get back into the game and man D wasn’t working.

The reason NBA teams don’t generally play zones is becuase most teams have good shooters who can routinely beat the zone. Here the zone presented the Clippers with a hobsons’ choice – either they put in Novak, a defensive liability, or figure out how to beat the zone with zbo, which they didn’t do. Bottom line, BD, Thornton and EJ have to hit their shots against a zone.

Obviously zone defenses were illegal 10 years ago. Thanks for pointing that out. In reality, however, teams routinely played disguised zones 10 years ago. Since modified zones are legal now, they are far more prevalent than they were 10 years ago.

by Jax on Dec 3, 2008 10:04 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I should read the whole thread

before posting replies. Late to the party again, oops.

by supac on Dec 4, 2008 4:49 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That one hurt

Team played great, looked great, it was all good. It was pretty obvious that Dallas was going to have some kind of run, but a Clipper meltdown didn’t seem likely. There seemed to be a real esprit de corps as Zach Randolph—hey there, husky big fella, way to go—led the way and BD and Thornton got in the act. Gordon was quiet and played well in the third. This team is fun to watch. And then they just cut your head right off with a samurai ritual group suicide.

CS breaks it down very nicely. Yes, Gordon suddenly looked like a 19 year old. Where was the high post? Camby was out there setting picks against the guards, but he never got the ball at the free throw line. And what about getting it into ZBo’s hands by putting him out there. He can hit the shot, or have at least two guys open, because they would definitely double or triple team him. Instead he got no touches.

The other problem was the sub pattern during the untimely collapse. Novak came in and hit two shots. Obviously the 16-2 run started when he went out. And MD brought back Gordon, okay, but what about Taylor, who was more effective on Barea in the first half. And when they’re in the zone, just leave Novak out there and get somebody in the high post—Thornton, as good a game as he’s playing, isn’t going to be the most effective zone buster, and he’s much better when he’s not settling for jumpers.

But the big thing is that MD has an uncanny talent for losing games. I’m not sure that it’s such a big deal; it should work itself out in the long run, probably too late. But it takes a special helmsman to steer through the famous collapse against the Lakers, and to sail along through all of the epic droughts that we’ve seen this year already, and a just stunning 4th quarter meltdown after playing a near-dominant game last night. Dunleavy is just very good at something that is very bad. The Clips have to figure things out and get their mojo, and the new lineup is going to do that in short order, and then they’ll figure out how to make BDavis and others more effective in crunch time. First things first. I really like the personnel, the guys who are playing—sayonara TT, Cat, and don’t rush back, RDavis. Kaman, please rush back. Keep playing Novak and Davis and Taylor—Gordon and Thornton are great young players, but keep them going in and out and on their toes.

Wow, what magnificent frustration!

by citizen zhiv on Dec 3, 2008 12:08 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good post Zhiv

I agree with your take.

by Jax on Dec 3, 2008 2:37 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"they just cut your head right off with a samurai ritual group suicide."

I LMAO in the office after that line!

only zhiv could come up with that one!…

"Duck, Crab. Crab, Duck"
Roger Sterling - Mad Men

by Lawler's Law on Dec 3, 2008 4:26 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I did not see this game,

but I was obviously disappointed at seeing the result and reading the post. These definitely are the Clippers we have come to know and… uhh love? I don’t want to say a whole lot about the game since I did not actually see it, but this team needs to figure out how win games by playing well in the fourth quarter. I was under the impression that getting B. Diddy would erase the whol “best three and a half quarter team in basketball” thing, but I’ve been wrong many many times before. I hate the cliche about learning how to win (because you don’t have to learn to win, you just have to have more points than the other guys when the clock hits 0:00), but this Clipper team could use a lesson on it. Don’t give in with a lead, go for the kill. Even if they were tired, they should have been able to maintain a solid lead. However, as I said, I did not get to see the game so I cannot be sure on any of these points.

I did take solace in seeing the Lakers blow a fifteen point lead of their own to Indiana in the fourth quarter. It was nice to see that even the almighty purple and gold can have a collapse just like us. It almost makes them seem human.

by WestsideBrandon on Dec 3, 2008 4:33 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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