Toronto 97 - Clippers 75
Every once in a while, I actually frame the issues relatively well on this site. Here's what I said in the preview for the Raptors game:
It's hard to know what to expect from the Clippers tonight. After embarrassing themselves in a 34 point loss in Milwaukee, will they be re-energized to be back home? Will they be able to prove that the last game was just a fluke? This game precedes an all-star-break-like hiatus of 5 days off - so maybe they'll just mail it in, and start their vacations a day early.
Let's go with mail it in. Yes, they were missing Marcus Camby who was not with the team for personal reasons. But they were listless and unfocused in the first half, and fell behind by 21. Baron Davis alone had 5 turnovers in the first quarter. Sounds like he might have been thinking about his holiday party schedule.
if the bench is incapable of providing any quality minutes, the starters will just wear down in the fourth quarter again.
There are extenuating circumstances on this one. After playing a solid third quarter, the Clippers had cut the lead down to 6 on the first basket of the fourth quarter, a three pointer by Baron Davis. On the ensuing possession, Jake Voskuhl shoved Zach Randolph in the back after a Chris Bosh lay up, sending Z-Bo sprawling on top of DeAndre Jordan, who'd been run over by Bosh on the play as well. The net result of the sequence was two Clipper bigs on the floor, not a single whistle, and Randolph wound up in the locker room for the rest of the game with a bruised knee. (X-rays were negative, so fingers crossed he could be OK for Sunday.) Now playing without Camby or Randolph, the Clippers' bigs were relatively ineffective both on offense and defense against Bosh and a rejuvenated Jermaine O'Neal, and the Raptors ran away with the game. The 22 point final margin was the largest of the game.
It would be really great to be able to write that [Milwaukee] game off as a complete anomaly - let's hope the Clippers give us a reason to believe that tonight.
Nope. No reason was provided.
These last two losses are very disappointing. The team lost to two different Eastern Conference opponents with losing records by a combined 56 points. For all the talk of a resurgent Eastern Conference, let's face it - the West still has more depth. So even if we've long since come to grips with the fact that the playoffs this season are unrealistic, we'd still like to think that this new team could compete on that level the rest of the season. But you MUST beat the second tier East teams to be competitive in the West.
Yes, it was 5 games in 5 cities in 7 nights. And it goes without saying that a team that has gotten absolutely no productivity from it's bench can ill-afford to lose a starter for the game, let alone another one in the fourth quarter. Having said all that, it's far from certain that the Clippers could have beaten the Raptors tonight even with Camby and Randolph. Bosh scored 18 points in the fourth quarter alone, and did not appear particularly interested in losing this game. Camby would have been the best option against Bosh, that's for sure. But I doubt anyone was stopping Bosh last night.
But the issues go way beyond "They were tired" or "They were short-handed." The small forwards combined to shoot 3 for 19. And let's face it, Steve Novak doesn't get to use the 'tired legs' excuse, since he's barely played this season. The statistics are just abysmal, across the board. 32.9% shooting is a season-low, in a season featuring a whole lot of bad shooting. Most disturbing of all, the Clippers were out-rebounded 48-38 by the worst rebounding team in the NBA. Obviously the absences of Camby and Kaman have a huge impact there. But it's still a very telling statistic against a poor rebounding team.
A five day break after a dismal pair of losses is hopefully exactly what the team needs. It gives Camby a chance to take care of his issues and let's Randolph rest his knee, not to mention that Kaman has been targeting a post-Christmas return for weeks. So maybe the team can come back on the 28th with a new sense of purpose.
On the other hand, for the virtual citizens of Clips Nation, this break is terrible timing. We have to cope with the longest break of the season with a very bad taste in our mouths.
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Nice recap...
I’m really frustrated (duh) with the last two games. We’ve looked like a team that has some how found a way to get better at losing. Missing our best defender and rebounder surely played a big role, but as you said, I’m not sure that Camby would have made a difference in this game. Al Thornton and B-Diddy were simply terrible in every facet of the game. You would think that they would have figured out by now that their playing styles could blend nicely together, yet somehow they look like they’ve never met. Al Thornton, meet B-Diddy. B-Diddy, I’d like you to meet Al Thornton. You guys will be playing on the same team for the next couple years. Get to know each other.
Baron appears to have forgotten that he is (was?) a premier guard in the league. His shooting percentage is abysmal and worse, his passing looks like he took a page out of “The Ghost of Jason Williams Past Playbook”. Lazy, silly, even stupid. Ugh.
MDsr…? Oh boy. I’m beginning to wonder what would happen if I bumped into him at a party. I’m pretty sure that I wouldn’t be able to stop myself from punching him square in the face.
Oh me, oh my!!!! The Red Baron has come home!!
I've officially come to expect this out of the Clippers.
As unfortunate as that sounds, I’ve accepted that these are the Clippers. It doens’t matter if they stuck the Laker players in Clipper uniforms; they’d still lose. I’m disappointed, of course, but I know realize that expectations for the Clippers are unrealistic.
Obviously, injuries played a key role in this game, but there was just a complete lack of effort and desire. If the Clippers had really put their all into this one and made it competitive, I would have been happy. However, their effort was extremely lackluster and they didn’t make any of the hustle plays that a short handed team needs to.
Also, can anybody figure out why good players like Baron Davis come to the Clippers and flounder? I’ve seen a lot more of him than SportsCenter highlights, so I know that he’s a roller coaster ride, but this is terrible. He was supposed to infuse a new attitude into a franchise that really needed it, but he has failed completely in that regard. We needed that attitude for a game like this, but we just mailed it in from the start. I realize that this probably was not going to be any kind of a good team, but it’s the attitude and the effort that I really hoped would change. That, at least, would signal a change in this cursed franchise. However, I see that we are still mired in whatever crap we’ve been stuck in since…oh, who cares?
Anyways, sorry for the pessimism. Great recap CS. Happy Holidays, Clipper fans.
by WestsideBrandon on Dec 23, 2008 11:21 AM PST reply actions
It's gotten progressively worse...
since that tough loss in Chicago. Hopefully the rest will do the team some good and we can start to see Kaman back in the mix soon.
Even if we’re not a playoff team this year, I’d like to see us play like we could be one next year. Looking forward to the Clippers using their first round pick on a PG to initially back up BD and hopefully push him a little bit.
Beg to Differ
This is obviously Exhibit 20 (or whatever) of why you can’t let winnable games get away. With all due respect to CS, the excuses and problems in this game add up to the result. It makes sense for the Clips to get off to a slow start with Camby out and Brian Skinner in the starting lineup against Bosh and O’Neal. Can a 5-time all-star qualify for Superstar for One Game? Just wondering. Then the Clips show some life and cut it to 6 and Randolph gets taken out by Voskuhl.
I don’t like to see the bad game from Thornton, and Steve Novak gets to have about ten more games like this before he catches up to Ricky Davis. We’re not talking about Walter McCarty or Tim Thomas here. I don’t like it, but it looks like Novak needs a few games and minutes and to take some shots before he heats up. It could have happened earlier, in better circumstances, but it’s not so bad to get a bunch of misses out of the way in one bad, unwinnable game.
Baron had some life when ZBo first arrived, but with so many defeats he’s not going to carry the team or play particularly well when key guys are gone. If the Clips were 20-8 instead of 8-20 it might be a different story. Let’s see how they look when Kaman comes back—let’s hope he comes back on Sunday—along with Camby and a healthy ZBo, we hope.
Love the use of "with all due respect . . ."
And I think there’s much more to the lack of energy then we know. Stay tuned – it will all come out in the wash.
I see what you did there
clever
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by Steve Perrin on Dec 23, 2008 3:55 PM PST up reply actions

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