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Clippers 107 - T-Wolves 84

The Clippers managed to come up with one victory on this road trip, with a wire-to-wire tonight win over the T-Wolves.  It was only the second easy win for the team in a not-so-easy season.

It's hard to get too excited about the win, because Minnesota just looked so bad.  And that was with Al Jefferson being pretty much unstoppable.  Jefferson was 13 for 22 for 28 points.  The rest of the team was 17 for 55.  Their guards were particularly stinky - Randy Foye was 2 for 10 (though he did get to the line 12 times), Kevin Ollie 1 for 4, Sebastian Telfair 1 for 3, and Rashad McCants 0 for 3.  McCants of course was my pick for "Superstar for one game" so obviously I can use my ClipperSteve anti-Nostradamus magic on opposing players now.

Marcus Camby had one of those games that made him the love of my fantasy basketball life a few seasons ago.  12 points, 19 rebounds, 7 blocks, 3 assists and 2 steals.  The Clippers as a team had 19 offensive rebounds, after coming up with only 3 in Memphis last night.  So, 19 is good.  But I'm still pissed about the 3 - which is, in stark contrast to 19, very, very not good.  If they could have managed to come up with 11 in each game, they'd probably have come away with two wins. Overall, the dominated the glass, 54 to 38, after being dominated themselves by the Grizz.

<voice_in_head>Let it go.</voice_in_head>

After Jefferson, the only T-Wolf to have a decent game was rookie Kevin Love who went for 13 points and 15 rebounds.  I think it's safe to say, however that Love did not come up against anyone quite like Marcus Camby in the Pac-10 last season - not even the Lopezes.  Four of Love's five field goals were on jumpers.  He had a little more trouble around the rim, where Camby blocked him twice within about 5 seconds in one sequence.

A few random observations:

  • DeAndre Jordan had 5 rebounds in 9 minutes.  The guy is long, long, long and very athletic to boot.  But he's got a long way to go.  His offensive game appears to be limited to dunking, but he does that well.  On a pick and roll with Baron in the first half, he dunked so fast I thought I missed something.  He had barely started his jump and the ball was flushed.  That's what happens when your standing reach is 9 and a half feet.  His other two shot attempts on the other hand were pretty ugly.  And he bit on an Al Jefferson up fake so hard that he almost jumped off the court.  So, yeah, he needs a little seasoning.
  • Mike Taylor appears to have fallen out of favor, and I'm not sure why.  Mardy Collins played 27 minutes in this game, and Jason Hart played 16, but Taylor was limited to 3 garbage time minutes - unfortunately for him he managed to commit 2 turnovers in those 3 minutes.  I like Taylor's energy when he's out there, and although he's more than a little out of control at times, he's making things happen at both ends.  I'd say it's what this team needs, more so than the 'steady' hand of Jason Hart.  So I'm hoping that Taylor moves back up the depth chart soon.
  • Speaking of Mardy Collins, he scored 14 points off the bench tonight.  Given the struggles of Clippers' second unit, you'd think that would be a good thing.  But I have to say I'm not happy about 14 shots in 27 minutes for Mardy Collins.  He made a three at the first period buzzer, which is of course a shot he has to take with the clock winding down.  Great bonus to get the three points from that.  He also had some makes finishing fast breaks, which is great.  But why is he taking 14 shots?  Baron and Zach had 15 each.  Let's hope this was a big time anomaly.
  • After scoring 25 and 24 in his first two starts, Eric Gordon is 15 for 40 in the subsequent five games.  He's also missed 6 straight 3's.  His first NBA road trip may have been a little bit of a shock to his system.
  • Baron on the other hand has gotten pretty hot from distance.  Counting the two completely meaningless threes he hit in the final minute in Memphis, he's made 6 of 7 in 33 minutes of court time.  I was pretty pissed that he was even taking those shots at the end of the Grizzlies' game, but it would be great if it got him going.  He's still barely over 30% from distance on the season, even with the 6 for 7 string.
  • Davis3 had a nice game, with 10 points on 5 for 7 shooting.  He had 3 offensive rebounds, and tipped two of those in.  I'm not sure what to think of him.  He's more athletic than we give him credit for, and I'm becoming a believer in his jump shot.  But he has a lot of trouble playing defense without fouling people. 

The next three games will be much more difficult.  The Magic, Blazers and Rockets have 15, 14 and 13 wins respectively - the Wolves have 4.  Playing with some purpose will be a start, but it may not be enough against good teams.

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18 Turnovers

Still a lot. Clippers also get very little out of the starting wings for the second straight game.

Mardy Collins is the type of player that Dunleavy will drive us nuts with. Safe and boring. I am surprised he took so many shots, but even more surprised that he played so many minutes. Mike Taylor has been key off the bench. I’m not sure what I mean by “key”. The Clippers still manage to lose when he plays.

Baron Davis is heating up, but I think he has a secret injury going on. Why can’t the dude finish on a fast break? He has missed a lot of shots right at the rim this year.

Speaking of hitting shots at the rim, Zach R. does just that. He just has a knack for getting the ball to go in the basket.

Camby gives it his all every night. I didn’t expect him to have quite as many flaws as he does, but he is still a very smart and extremely productive player.

F-Elton!

by mikey p on Dec 6, 2008 11:58 PM PST reply actions  

what flaws ? i love camby. he goes after loose balls he goes after the offensive boards, a good shot blocker, he never commands the ball and only takes the shot if its a good one.

I think his suspect perimeter defense was a known thing so if thats what your getting at…. camby is the clips mvp right now. Maybe Al Thornton could challenge him if he wasnt so quiet the last two games.

Mardy Collins had some horrible shots. He airballed like 2 threes after that first one and just overall not the best guy to shoot 15 times. or 10. or 5. maybe 1 or 2 shots a game.

by andrewexd on Dec 7, 2008 12:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Flaws

Every player has flaws. Camby is no exception. I frankly believed him to be a better passer and better one on one defender than he is. He is not a bad passer, but he has had a few bad ones. And team defense is clearly his strength, rather than shutting his man down.

As far as him taking good shots, I think he is just ok. He has launched a few of those ill-advised 17 footers. Sometimes he gets sloppy going to the hole.

He is a fabulous player. I am glad he is on the Clips.

F-Elton!

by mikey p on Dec 7, 2008 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Camby's passing

Watching him as an opponent, we probably remember the good and were less attuned to the bad. He is a very good passer and very unselfish – but he definitely tries ill-advised passes as well. On the whole, I’ll definitely take his passing.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Dec 7, 2008 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Turnovers...

The turnover number was severely inflated by garbage time. The scrubs committed 6 turnovers on 7 possessions in 3 minutes – they settled a little, or we would have left the game feeling about as bad as we did after the Dallas collapse even with a win. It was terrible. The team also had 3 straight turnovers at the start of the fourth, and 10 total in the quarter. In other words, thru three quarters they had turned the ball over 8 times in building a 23 point lead. They did a very good job protecting the ball as they were putting the game away. But they lost focus pretty badly in the fourth.

FWIW, the travel call on Randolph in the fourth was a bad call. I’m continually mystified at how refs can continually allow blatant walks to go uncalled, and then turn around and call one that didn’t happen.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Dec 7, 2008 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I didnt see the game

so I am glad to hear that they did protect the ball.

F-Elton!

by mikey p on Dec 7, 2008 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

eric gordons head is a perfect sphere.

by andrewexd on Dec 6, 2008 11:59 PM PST reply actions  

Nice recap

You hit the nail saying this isn’t too exciting, playing a horrible team without its 2nd best player Mike Miller. Then again, its good to finally have a blowout in favor of the Clips for once. Collins had some garbage time minutes too, so I don’t think he’ll play nearly as much or even have a chance to shoot so much in the near future. Nonetheless, he did show tonite he can at least be somewhat serviceable in relief to the big minutes EJ and Thornon are logging.

I love LAC.

by oasisman on Dec 7, 2008 12:25 AM PST reply actions  

Free-fall Suspended

Though rare, we’ve seen it before…a freaking win. What we haven’t seen is two in a row. On Monday, they’ll get their fourth crack at it.

I actually kind of liked Dunleavy’s post game remark: "We let one get away in Dallas, and then we laid an egg last night," Clippers coach Mike Dunleavy said. "It was good to see us come back strong tonight."

A little understated, playing it cool. As we all know…all hell would’ve broken loose if the Clippers lost tonight. This was a big win for Dunleavy as it buys him some time, and proves the team hasn’t completely quit on him. I guess it doesn’t hurt that he’s also the GM, or else he’d be the ultimate lame duck situation.

The next 11 games will be telling…They play 3 below average teams and 8 mostly above average teams. They’ll need to win at least 6 if they’re to play like an “above average” team. 4-5 wins would be average, 3 or less would see us continue to flounder in 5th or 6th worst in the league.

by ghost_ride on Dec 7, 2008 3:49 AM PST reply actions  

Keep Hope Alive

Okay, free-fall suspended. Do we get to remember how well the Clips played in the Dallas game, before the meltdown?

Jason Hart and Mardy Collins? Really? Welcome to Dunleavy ball.

It’s all about Baron. He wanted 20 games to get a feel for the new team, get through the changes. Now he’s got a team with some good weapons and no seeming weak links, and he has to step up and get everybody dancing. At home against Orlando is a good chance to play well, followed by some days off and Kaman coming back at some point.

Eric Gordon plays good D, gets blocks—not so easy for an SG—and steals, and he needs to rebound better, along with BD and Thornton. If Gordon keeps hustling the good scoring games will come. He lost some minutes and shots to Collins because of garbage time. EJ and Thornton can both play better, and maybe getting back home will help them. And it will be good to see the ZBo-Camby combo at Staples. I have a feeling that BD will work hard to get things fired up, coming back after the trip.

by citizen zhiv on Dec 7, 2008 1:43 PM PST reply actions  

todays al thorntons birthday so happy birthday al. 25 years old already..

by andrewexd on Dec 7, 2008 8:37 PM PST reply actions  

Reality/Hopefullness

The sum of the parts, as well-stated by others in this blog, have not resulted in the success to which we all have wished and hoped. However, I am not aware of any team who’s roster has undergone such a sweeping overhaul, and then immediately been successful. I rejoice in the departure of Tim Thomas (“Can you at least show some heart?”). I was apprehensive with the ZBo trade. However, thus far, he has been consistently very good. Since great teams/programs most often take a lot of time to become what they are, then good teams must also take some time. We hope for a good team. This is definitely both due to the potential of the players we have and by the overall lack of success in the past.

Absolutely, I am very disappointed and extremely hopeful. Rarely do good things happen overnight. This team will benefit from more time. Success will not come as fast as we want. Great organizations/teams stay with a program, stay with a core of quality players. In previous years, we suffered with rotating coaches/players, UGH! Hope for the best, recognize the reality of the situation.

by soccerdance15 on Dec 7, 2008 11:41 PM PST reply actions  

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