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The Buyout Rant

I try to be a 'both sides of the argument' kind of guy.  I've always had a grudging admiration for those people who see things in black and white (but only the ones who at least get it right more than they get it wrong).  Those people are decisive, and there's an old saying that 'a bad decision is better than no decision.'  I'm not that way.  I tend to see all the shades of disturbing grey.  And when I don't have all of the information, I give people the benefit of the doubt.  Maybe (hopefully?, probably?, surely?) the decision makers know something that I don't know that makes sense out of something that appears from the outside senseless.

But here's what we knew about Sam Cassell's situation.

  • We knew that the Clippers weren't making the playoffs.
  • We knew that Cassell was 38.
  • We knew he was in the last year of his contract.
  • We knew he would not play for the Clippers next season.
  • We knew he had trade value.
  • We knew that teams wanted him.
  • We knew the trade deadline was February 21st.
And we knew all of this as early as December.

In any trade, I don't care if it's the NBA or your fantasy league or your baseball cards, there is a negotiation.  And you almost always want more than you're being offered.  (Even if you didn't then you figure you should have asked for more.)  So the next question is what are you willing to take, and who is going to blink?

In the vast majority of NBA trades, the fallback is simply not to trade and keep the player.  Maybe they will still have value to you.  Maybe you can wait and get a better offer later.  It's a good feeling - you don't have to settle for a bad trade, because you can simply opt for no trade.

I follow the NBA pretty closely, and I cannot think of a more clear cut situation where a player absolutely HAD to be traded by the trade deadline.  For one thing, there's rarely been a 38 year old who could play like Sam.  He has value NOW, but he simply won't have value much longer.  It's also unusual that a player of his stature has such a reasonable contract.  We're not talking about Stephon Marbury numbers here.  Lots of teams can scrape together $6M in expiring deals.  (Actually, the minimum number to match was more like $4.9M.)  And the simple fact is that it was never a viable option that Cassell would be a Clipper next season.  (More to the point, it didn't even matter.  He's 38 - he's not going to command more than the Mid Level Exception.  And he's in the final year of his contract.  If you think maybe you want Sam Cassell to play for the Clippers in 08-09, trade him in February and make him an offer in the summer.  He wouldn't take it, but you could still entertain thoughts of Sam Cassell as a Clipper if you're delusional.)

So that leaves the negotiation part.  I understand that it's not necessarily easy.  Maybe you're trying to get Donnie Nelson on the phone for a week, only to find out that they're after Jason Kidd.  Or maybe you think Cleveland is your best fit, only to find out that Danny Ferry is in the process of trading half his team.  And then Pau Gasol goes to the Lakers in a Grizzlies fire sale and you start salivating at the prospect of getting Mike Miller for a song.  Suddenly Chris Wallace is asking for stuff and you're thinking 'Oh, he'll blink.  I know what he took for Gasol, so I know he'll blink.'  But for whatever reason, he doesn't blink.  And you look up at it's 12:01 PM February 21st, and it's too late.

I get all that.

Here's what I don't get.  Where was the backup plan?  You applied to Harvard and Princeton and Stanford and Duke?  Great.  What's your safety college?  You might want to go ahead and send in an application to Cal State Long Beach too, or you could end up flipping burgers next fall.

And yes, Dallas and Cleveland and Atlanta and Phoenix all had other things in the works, and Memphis played hard ball with the lottery pick (I have to say, I'm not sure I would have given that one up).  But there was a painfully obvious destination still sitting out there.

I find it hard to believe that Denver would have said no to Cassell for Najera and a second rounder.  (Obviously you ask for a first rounder but you'll take the second rounder.  That's the negotiation, and the second rounder is what you'll settle for.)  Nor was it a secret that Denver had an interest.  Cassell played for George Karl, there's long been talk of him finishing his career with Karl and transitioning to an assistant's role, and Denver could definitely use some help at the point.  I mean, they ended up settling for Taureen Green.  They had a safety college!

It's pretty clear that owner Donald T. Sterling's comments on MLK Day were a factor here.  When the owner is screaming that he wants to win now, and implying that he wants big trades made to bring in major talent, you have to pay attention.  And Najera's expiring contract plus a second rounder doesn't look good in that context, while Mike Miller looks great.  So I can understand the fixation on Miller to some extent.  But get a calendar or something.  Because while Najera plus a second rounder looks bad, a buyout and NOTHING in return looks MUCH, MUCH worse.

(And of course it's possible that Denver in fact had no interest at all.  Rumors are frequently just rumors.  But if not Denver then Orlando.  Or someone else.  There are 16 teams going to the playoffs this season, and some of them need help at the point guard position.  I refuse to believe that there wasn't a deal to be made for at least a future pick out there somewhere.)

So in this case, I just can't give Elgin Baylor the benefit of the doubt.  He knew February 21st was coming.  He knew that Sam Cassell's value to him had a shelf life.  And he reached the expiration date.

This one isn't grey.

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Classic /facepalm by the Clippers
I know in my scenario I was willing to give up alot, but that was my point.  To make that deal I was bracing to blink.

by John R on Feb 26, 2008 10:51 AM PST   0 recs

Your Plan was Better
You knew what you wanted and you knew what you were willing to do to get it.  From everything we hear, you would have gotten Miller (for less than you were willing to give up in fact, because you would have kept Thornton).  And with Miller, you can let Maggette walk and be in a reasonable cap position as well.  It all worked.

The Clippers plan (um... doing nothing I guess is the best way to describe it) is worse than your plan.

by ClipperSteve on Feb 26, 2008 10:54 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Maybe I'm naive...
... but I'm inclined to give management a pass on this one. They couldn't just get a pick, as no team could absorb the salary (GS had a trade exception, I think, but really has no use for Sam). It seems to me that this would have been easier had Sam actually made MORE money, as teams would have been more likely to give up something of value to either rent him or get a bigger expiring contract. Matching at $5-8M is hard to do without giving back old guys on MLEs (who we probably don't want) or rookies with cap numbers that don't match their value to their current team (I always felt Livingston fell into this category). You can find some scenarios (Orlando could have done it with Dooling and Garrity, etc.) but the Clips had to get something besides expiring contracts to make it better than "doing nothing", and certainly didn't want to take back any salary beyond this year, with Livingston, Maggette (probably) and Brand (possibly) to deal with in the off-season. I think they were trying to get something done, and were set up to take back multiple players (they have 2 roster spots open currently). Given the plausible scenarios that I can come up with, playing chicken with Memphis for the player the Clips really wanted (Miller) seems like an acceptable gamble to me.

I also think that (given that this is now water under the bridge), that buying him out is the right thing to do, even if it doesn't save the team any money. Sam has been an upstanding citizen for the Clippers to date, which is somewhat contrary to the way that he left Minnesota. I would think that the team wouldn't want to roll the dice on Sam being a problem in the locker room if he doesn't get his way.

Obviously not the best case, but not a huge mistake in my mind.

by dthomca on Feb 26, 2008 1:27 PM PST   0 recs

There were constraints, to be sure...
Clippers were not going to take back more years than they sent out for anything other than a home run, like Mike Miller.

Still, Gerrity in Orlando, Najera in Denver, Newble plus some junk in Cleveland... there's three playoff teams off the top of my head who could have put together the trade in expendable, expiring contracts.  Package that with a pick and you have yourself a scoring point guard with 12 years of playoff experience.

And there are 14 non playoff teams to explore with the Sam's expiring contract.  Package him with Mobley or Thomas and get a real asset.  

I'm not saying they didn't try or even that it was easy.  But it was doable, and they had lots of lead time.  I'm not giving them the pass on this one.

However, I totally agree that the water, she is under the bridge.  Time to move on.  Waive him, wish him luck.  He was a good Clipper.  None of this is his fault.

by ClipperSteve on Feb 26, 2008 3:34 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

how long...
is it going to take for you to get over this buyout thing, CS?

by laclipperfan42 on Feb 26, 2008 4:39 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I'm over it...
I'm fine.  I really am.

I'm probably most upset that they made me look bad, right?  I said it would never happen because the organization wasn't that stupid.  Shows what I know.

But them's the breaks.  I'm OK.  

If Kaman plays tomorrow night, I'll feel much better.  I'm more concerned about the fact that we have to watch Aaron Williams and Brevin Knight in the starting lineup every night.  Brevin Knight is now a given - but please, no more Aaron Williams.  Talk about a buyout candidate.

Bring on the D-League players on 10 day contracts!  Let's have some fun these last two months.

by ClipperSteve on Feb 26, 2008 6:44 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

just teasing
CS.  I know all Clipper fans are disappointed about this buyout with Cassell.  but what can we expect from an organization that just makes mistakes repeatedly?  Well, I don't mind watching Knight play now since he can actually make a jumper but as for Aaron Williams?  No thanks.  I prefer watching Josh Powell more.

by laclipperfan42 on Feb 26, 2008 8:07 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

At least
Richie Frahm might be back to start ahead of AT!

by Lawler's Law on Feb 26, 2008 7:01 PM PST   0 recs

Go Zags!
Maybe Richie and/or Dan can explain to Ralph that it's pronounced Gon-ZAG-a (rhymes with nag) and not Gon-ZAHG-a (rhymes with fog).  It's kind of an important college program at this point.  You'd think he'd get it right.  Does he also say Vahnderbilt?  As in, "Wasn't Vahnderbilt simply splendid against Tennessee this evening?"

by ClipperSteve on Feb 26, 2008 9:26 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Wait
I forgot the best reason of all not to buy him out.

Celtics scrubs jacking up 3 balls early in the clock in the 4th when already up 20.

by John R on Feb 27, 2008 9:31 AM PST   0 recs

Say Hello to Nick Fazekas
Clips finally signed another big man to a 10-day deal, something they probably should have done in early December.  At one point, minus Brand, they had Patterson and Davis, but Patterson was a disappointment and let go and Davis went down.  No one filled the spot, but it meant more playing time for Thornton and Josh Powell.  The weak link in all of this has been Aaron Williams, who had a bum wrist when the Clips were still trying to hold the fort, and who has not really had a good game since Kaman started having his troubles in January.  Over time Williams has had some nice games in spot duty for the Clips, but he has looked pretty weak the last couple of months, and that was after an ill-timed, quietly problematic injury.

When the Clips were looking for big men who can shoot the 3, Fazekas seemed very interesting.  This was the draft two years ago, back when Liv was healthy and there was time on Cassell's clock, and the Clips were still playing in May.  For the Clips' pick early in the 2nd round (not remembering why they had that high a pick, and maybe I'm getting it all wrong), I remember looking at Paul Davis, Paul Milsap, and Nick Fazekas, along with Kevin Pittsnogle.  Fazekas decided to go back to Nevada for another year.  Something was very wrong with Pittsnogle--probably just very slow and not a good enough shooter. Davis seemed like a good pick and still does, a good complement to Kaman, Brand, Thomas, and now Powell.  He says he's going to be coming back, but his deal with the Clips is done, and the emergence of Powell makes him much more expendable.  A pure rebounding and undersized hustle player like Milsap seemed redundant on a team with Brand, but he would have been a great pick and extremely helpful this year.  But it's highly doubtful that Dunleavy would have given him the same opportunities that Jerry Sloan has.  Davis didn't get them, and Powell only did when Davis and Williams were hurt and Patterson was gone.  

Not sure what happened with Fazekas, but it seems like his stock dropped and there's a flaw somewhere in his game.  Hoping that he gets more run than Diaz did.  We'll see.  

by zhivclip on Feb 27, 2008 10:33 AM PST   0 recs

Is it official?
Or are you just going on the stories in the LAT and OCR?  I'm sure it's happening.

I'm checking around for how he played in the D League.  I'm not sure why the Mavs gave up on him, but I assume money has something to do with it.  Every little bit counts when you're as deep into the luxury tax as they are.  I always found it a strange pick for them.  Who needs a 6'11" perimeter player when you've got Nowitzki?  But I love Fazekas for the Clippers - on paper - based on his college career.  We'll see what the reality is.

by ClipperSteve on Feb 27, 2008 12:01 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

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