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Clippers vs. Warriors - Game Preview and Open Thread

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21-45 41-25
Staples Center
Mar. 19, 2008 - 7:30 PM
Probable starters:
Brevin Knight PG Baron Davis
Cat Mobley SG Monta Ellis
Corey Maggette SF Mickael Pietrus
Tim Thomas PF Stephen Jackson
Josh Powell C Andris Biedrins
The Big Picture:

The Clippers return home from a road trip in which they barely beat the worst team in the NBA, and then lost the next four.  They are 2-12 in their last 14 games, with an point differential of minus 15 during that span.  All 14 of those games were of course without Sam Cassell.  Nine of them were without Chris Kaman and the other five were with him on limited minutes.  Losing down the stretch of the season is fine - as long as there's no hangover going into next season.  That's the tricky part.  How do you continually lose, without becoming inured to losing - without emerging from the season as a bunch of 'losers'?  But it's pretty obvious this team, playing without their best players and without any size to speak of, has little chance of winning in any given game.  They actually show quite a bit of interest in winning - more than one might expect they would at this point.  But there's not much they can do about it.

The Antagonist:

The lack of size won't be a big problem against the Warriors.  But the lack of talent will.  The Warriors are coming off a lackluster performance in losing to the Kings last night - so expect them to be focused on avoiding a two game losing streak to the worst teams in the Division.  In the hyper-competitive West, 9 teams already have at least 40 wins, and only 8 of them will make the post season.  The Warriors currently hold that final spot, but it's pretty clear that any team that goes into a prolonged slump (even the Spurs), will be on the outside looking in.  This is not the time of the season for the Dubs to get sloppy.  They're going to come out and take it to the Tiny Generic Clippers tonight.

The Subplots

  • The Stat Battle. Corey Maggette is currently 11th in the NBA in scoring with a career best 22.4 point average.  Baron Davis is 12th at 22.3.  In fact, in the last few weeks, Maggette and Davis have been leap-frogging one another on an almost nightly basis, depending on who had a big game that night.  Davis has 5 30 point games in March - and Maggette has scored 34 in each of his last two.  Oh, and each of them can opt out of their contracts this summer - but I'm sure that has nothing to do with it.  Davis and Ellis present a match-up nightmare for the Clippers.  But Maggette tends to light up the Warriors also.  So they could both have big games tonight.
  • The Injury Story.  The Warriors have played 66 games this season.  Their top 8 players have missed a TOTAL of 21 games due to injury.  Baron Davis has played in every game, Monta Ellis, Al Harrington and Kelenna Azubuike have missed 1 each, and Stephen Jackson has missed 2 (he missed 7 others because of an NBA suspension).  I'm not even going to write down the corresponding Clipper numbers, because it's too depressing.  Maybe the silver lining is that relatively healthy seasons do happen, even for traditionally snake bitten teams.  Baron Davis has not played in all 82 games in 5 full seasons.  But he's on pace to do so this year, so maybe there's hope for the injury-prone Clippers.
  • Kaman and Thornton.  The Injury Report continues to list Kaman (lower back) and Thornton (thigh contusion) as 'Questionable.'  I don't really understand why they can't do better than that.  Kaman is not going to play - we know that.  And Thornton probably will - they listed him as 'Out' on Monday and then he played (though he did look to be hurting).  
  • It's Official.  Did anyone mention this?  Anywhere?  I'm surprised I missed it.  Last Wednesday, the Warriors won their 40th game.  Last Friday in Atlanta, the Clippers lost their 43rd game.  The Clippers have officially been eliminated from the playoff race since Friday.  Not that the team hasn't been out of playoff contention for a very long time, but it has been official for 5 days now.
  • Fazekas.  As I mentioned yesterday, Nick Fazekas has been signed for the rest of the season.  With Kaman out, it will be interesting to see how much burn he gets, and see if he looks more relaxed without the specter of playing for another 10 day contract hanging over his head.  The speed of the Warriors may not be the opponent where he'll shine, but you never know.
  • Q&A on GSoM.  I answered some questions for the crew at Golden State of Mind.  Head over there to check it out.  We didn't have time to get a Q&A from them this time around, but they owe us for the final meeting on 4/12.

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Zhiv Hiatus
I have a new job and my email was changed kind of suddenly--something I should have been better prepared for--and I'm a doofus, so I haven't been around.  I can't believe I missed the opportunity to comment on tons of great and exciting Clipper action!

I give CS, who took his own weekend break, props for staying the course through the tough times, just like last year.  I should mention, I suppose, that I kinda sorta actually am doing some work these days too, as crazy as that sounds.  Back to the shirt and tie.

Here are some topics, going into a nice homegame tonight:

--wasn't this a leading (conservative) contender for EB's comeback game?

--since this is an unofficial Clippers website, can't you just call this what it is:  a blatant, all out tank job?  and how do we feel about that as fans?

I don't care what anybody says:  Elton Brand does not need to go through an extended series of 5-on-5 practices, his own "training camp," before he plays again.  There's no risk, other than the risk anybody has when they take the court.  The only risk, is that the Clips might be good and win a few games.

That being said, I would like to see Brand come back playing alongside Kaman 2.0.  I'm not really interested in seeing how Brand and Tim Thomas play together, with Josh Powell coming off the bench.  I want to see Kaman, Brand, and Maggette (while he's still here), with Thornton (and Thomas or Powell) coming off the bench.  So I can live with no Brand until Kaman is ready.

--The Maggette free agency drive.  I'm not sure that Maggs' lengthy streak of big numbers has been adequately analyzed within the context of his opting out and becoming a free agent.  Has he improved his situation at all with, what is it, 6 weeks of solid play?

--Fazekas vs. Paul Davis.  Do we like Fazekas better?  

--The draft.  I must say that the Clipper's latest debacles haven't been bothering me so much while UCLA has been marching forward.  Do we even know exactly what the Clippers need in the draft, and is that guy out there?  Am I going to be upset if the Clippers pass on Kevin Love and he goes to Chicago, Sacramento, Portland or Phoenix?

Stuff like that.    

by citizen zhiv on Mar 19, 2008 5:57 PM PDT   0 recs

Interesting
First of all, are we sure that Kaman 2.0 still exists? The current 2.1 version is eerily reminiscent of 1.0. Not good.

Secondly, it's really amazing how Maggette's been shooting. I think he's improved his free agency situation a ton. Hopefully he's impressing the other teams, and not the Clips. There should be good value in a sign-and-trade.

No to Fazekas, no to Davis. I'd rather have an athletic/hustling rebounder who can also defend (ahem Singleton, or someone like dancing Turiaf) at the non-Thomas backup PF/C spot to better compliment the post play of Brand and Kaman. Powell is close if he could stop shooting jumpers and learn to finish around the basket.

Smush increases our ping pong balls, I'll give him that much. I'm watching the guard prospects pretty closely (not like it's going to make a difference on who the Clips draft). I still like trading down to take Westbrook. I know he's playing mostly SG at UCLA (since Collison is there) but he definitely has the handles to be a PG.

There's always the option of trading for a PG. The Blazers are overloaded with PGs, especially if they bring Fernandez over next year. Maybe Rodriguez can be had for cheap? The Raptors won't be paying for both Calderon and Ford. Is TJ a good fit here? The Grizz practically tried to give Lowry away prior to the trade deadline. Clearly Conley's the future, and Crit is the only player they really got for Pau (unless you count the Frank Stallone Gasol). They have Navarro there as well, perhaps he'd like to be reunited with Pau, albeit across the street. Lots of possibilities...

by supac on Mar 19, 2008 11:44 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Warriors fans
Lots of adult men wearing sports jerseys and/or sandals.
Have some pride Oakland. Dress like grown ups.

by John R on Mar 19, 2008 8:17 PM PDT   0 recs

What's wrong with sandals?
In Manhattan Beach, that's pretty much all we wear

by Jax on Mar 20, 2008 9:05 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

not to Staples Center
not good.  

Beach ok.  

by mp on Mar 20, 2008 11:31 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

ESPN's coverage is interesting
The interviewed EB...He continues to refer to next year.  They are unsure about Maggette.  It is obvious to everyone that the Clips need guards.

by mp on Mar 19, 2008 8:37 PM PDT   0 recs

Which crew is it?
Are they generally being smart or stupid?

by John R on Mar 19, 2008 8:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Tirico and Hubey
I personally like both.  They are mostly accurate in their analysis.  

by mp on Mar 19, 2008 9:58 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It was obvious to many of us at the beginning
of the year that the Clips needed guards.

But I digress.

by Jax on Mar 20, 2008 9:06 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

WTF
Did Corey just miss like 18 fta?

by John R on Mar 19, 2008 8:38 PM PDT   0 recs

Aint got love for bums no more
I just had to quote Warriors fan on that one.

by John R on Mar 19, 2008 9:21 PM PDT   0 recs

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