The Baron Davis Era
That certainly happened fast.
Less than 24 hours after a surprise decision in which he opted out of the final year of his contract with the Golden State Warriors, Baron Davis has reached a verbal agreement for a deal with the Clippers. A scenario that I would have dismissed as pie-in-the-sky wishful thinking yesterday now appears to be a reality.
Marc Stein is reporting that Davis' deal will be in the 5/$65M range. I think we should all bow down to Citizen John R, who 7 hours ago came up with a scenario in which Baron would be paid 63.4 over 5 years. Not too shabby.
And while this Newsday story wonders aloud about the fate of Elton Brand, that's just silly. Davis didn't sign without Elton Brand being a part of the team, and the Clippers didn't offer Davis some of Brand's money without Brand being a part of the discussion. Davis and Brand are a package, and they split the available money, and everyone is in the loop. Promise. Again, for a best guess look at John R's FanPost. He was really close on the Baron money, which means he's really close on the Elton money. Of course no one knows what the cap number is until next week, so the final amounts may shift around a bit.
The Clippers lineup, as of today, is as follows:
PG - Baron Davis, Brevin Knight
SG - Cat Mobley, Eric Gordon
SF - Al Thornton, Marcus Williams
PF - Elton Brand, Tim Thomas, Nick Fazekas
C - Chris Kaman, DeAndre Jordan
Is Cat Mobley the weak link? Consider this - there were many games last season when Cat Mobley was the Clippers' number one option on offense. In the presumptive starting lineup, he's their fifth option. For all of his shortcomings, Cat Mobley is a VERY strong fifth scoring option. (By the way, if the Knicks want Mobley for Jamal Crawford to free up cap space in 2010 as reported by Jonathan Abrams in the LA Times, I'd do that deal. Crawford is younger then Mobley, not to mention that Mobley just had the worst year of his career and turns 33 soon. I'd put the 28 year old Crawford with the 29 year old Davis and Brand and go for it.)
Williams and Fazekas are of course not yet signed. And there are still as many as four roster spots available. Josh Powell would seem to be a likely returnee - his deal was not fully guaranteed, but nor have the Clippers waived him yet. Or Paul Davis may end up being the backup center if Jordan is not ready. (I think Davis/Powell is an either or with Jordan and Fazekas both likely to be on the team.) And they'll definitely need a third string point guard (and maybe a fourth) given the injury histories of Davis and Knight.
Corey Maggette is gone for sure. The Clippers now don't even have the MLE to spend on him, nor can they participate in any sign and trade. So for Corey, it's 'hope Philly makes an offer' or 'pick the best contenders MLE'. Not a nightmare scenario I guess, but how many guys take a pay cut the season after they average 22?
Shaun Livingston is the next key question. As I said before, I think a multi year minimum deal is not out of the question for Shaun. You make years 2 and beyond player options, giving him the ability to opt out and sign for more at any time that his market value increases. The best case scenario for the Clippers then would probably be that he plays well, opts out, and earns a big raise from the Clippers. Everybody wins. It remains to be seen what other teams will offer Shaun. If they can retain him, this really does become a dream scenario. A healthy Livingston would immediately be the backup 1 and the backup 3, not to mention getting minutes at the 2 in the future when Cat is gone.
How good can this Clippers team be? Well, pretty good. Consider that they were one game away from the Western Conference Finals a little over two years ago. Comparing this team to that team, you'd have to say that Baron Davis is a MAJOR upgrade over Sam Cassell, while Kaman 2.0 is a MAJOR upgrade over the former Kaman. Livingston and Maggette were certainly big parts of that team, and they may be missed. But Al Thornton goes a LONG way to making up for the loss of Maggette, while Livingston may yet be back. Even if he's not, the point guard position is still in significantly better shape if Davis stays healthy.
Do Brand, Davis and Kaman constitute a Clippers 'Big 3' a la the Celtics? It's interesting that although many reports are ignoring Kaman, it's pretty easy to make the case that he had a better season last year (aside from the injuries) than Ray Allen. So the three isn't at issue, as far as I'm concerned. It's how 'big' are the 'big two'? Whether Brand can play at KG levels (he has come closer than any other player in the league in the past) remains to be seen. And while Davis has been as good as Paul Pierce at times in his career, no one (not even Kobe Bryant) was better than Pierce last month. Pierce and Garnett elevated their games when they teamed up - can this group do the same?
Kelly Dwyer was less than effusive in his assessment of the potential of this team earlier today. I have to disagree. Davis and Brand put up all star numbers year in and year out - they actually make the all star team infrequently because they're not be on great teams, but that's about to change. Likewise Chris Kaman put up All Star center averages last season. Can he stay healthy? Can he do it for an entire season? Can he do it with Brand on the court? I think he can - he made a believer out of me. So it's not a stretch to say that the Clippers now have three potential all stars at three key positions. With a first team all rookie selection at the small forward, and a solid veteran at the shooting guard, I'd rate the Clippers 4th and 5th starters above those of either Boston or the Lakers. Throw in exciting rookies coming off the bench, and sign a couple of cheap veterans, and this team could be really, really good.
Davis is the perfect TALENT to add to the group the Clippers already had. He plays the position where they were thin, and he will take all the big shots in all the big games. Whether he will be happy with coach MDsr is another story. If Baron left Oakland because he clashed with the free-wheeling Nelson, one can only imagine what could happen here. Still, MDsr gave Cassell a LOT of rope - he seems to have different rules for vets and stars than for other players. He'll probably give Baron more latitude than he would give to Livingston. Let's hope anyway.
In the karma department, I can't help but think about the various things that have happened over the last two seasons that have brought us here. If the Clippers don't miss the playoffs in 2007, they probably don't get Thornton in the draft. If Livingston doesn't blow out his knee, they would have already extended him or certainly they would have made the QO, tying up a lot more money, probably scuttling the Davis offer. If the team isn't wracked by injuries last season, they don't get Gordon in the draft. For once in the history of the franchise, it seems that the Clippers' various misfortunes have been re-paid by the universe in one great good fortune.
And make no mistake, this is a great good fortune. Consider this: if they don't opt out, Elton Brand and Baron Davis are making $34M combined next season. Instead, they're making $26M combined - a 24% discount - to play for the Clippers. Or how about this factoid: last week, Brand and Maggette were on the Clippers' books for $23.5M. Today, we're looking at Brand and Davis for 5% more. I love Maggette and think he's underrated. But Baron Davis is much more important to this team's chances, not to mention a much bigger draw.
Amazingly, the West just keeps getting better. Sure, the Warriors drop off the radar a little. But the Lakers and Jazz and Hornets are just as young and talented as they were last season. The Spurs remain the Spurs. I am willing to say that the sun is setting on the Mavs and the window has closed on the Suns. But the Blazers should make a HUGE jump this season as well. In short, the Clippers, with their best team EVER, are not even locks to get out of the first round of the playoffs. Then again, if a Celtic-like team spirit overtakes them, they would appear to have the talent to compete with anyone in the league. That's right. Anyone in the league.
Let the Baron Davis Era begin.
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We've turned the page............
Praise God, The Universe, Vishnu and whoever else was responsible for this!
Outstanding!
Go Clips’s !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by 69knicks on Jul 1, 2008 7:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Living in the now!
Great work, CS.
There’s more to be done, but this is a wonderful moment and a great new beginning for the Clips. Your thoughts on the “karma department” are great. You know where it started, I think? The Korolev pick. Who would have thought that that was a brilliant move that would end up snagging Baron Davis for the Clippers?
by citizen zhiv on Jul 1, 2008 7:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm...
Not sure I can make the leap to Korolev being a crucial element. I guess if they were paying Danny Granger real NBA money, they wouldn’t have that money for Baron. But if YK were learning the ropes in Moscow, and had never signed an NBA contract, this could all have happened also.
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by Steve Perrin on Jul 1, 2008 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's figure it out
Not that I’m serious, but…
05: Clippers draft Granger instead of Korolev. Mobley and Cassell arrive. Maggette early season injury. QRoss fills in, but Granger gets minutes too. Maggette returns. In final seconds of WC semis, MD puts in Granger to guard Raja Bell… no wait, we won’t do that.
06-07 Inexplicably eager to bring Maggette off the bench, MD chooses between Granger and QRoss. Results in subtle changes in strange season and Maggettifesto. Clippers go to playoffs? Sure, why not. Are Clippers in lottery and able to pick Thornton? Even if they are for some reason in the lottery (and I don’t think they would be), they don’t pick Thornton. With Granger succeeding on the roster, does MD accomplish his quest to trade Maggette? Good chance that he does.
Picking Thornton, and having him turn out to be extremely good, changed everything. And for awhile I’ve been thinking about it as a karmic makeup for the dumb YK pick.
by citizen zhiv on Jul 1, 2008 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
feeling a little sorry for maggette
he lost at least 5 million today…
by cantthinkofagoodname on Jul 1, 2008 7:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Mobley
The next step, aside from tying things up, is to see if they can accomplish some goals with Mobley and his deal. I think Mobley’s a good fit, but if Crawford is a real possibility and you think it’s worth doing, there should be some other ideas.
I was writing this on a now buried thread just as the BD signing was announced:
Three Mobley suggestions. As long as we’re looking at favorable Clipper scenarios, here are three Mobley deals to consider and discuss.
—Jason Terry. He’s been shopped and his deal is pricey for his services and a year longer than Crawford’s (2 years longer than Mobley’s), but he’s much more of a Dunleavy type than Crawford. He can presumably get into the mix with BD, Gordon, and Liv if he’s around. Not sure he provides enough value added to take on the extra two expensive years. But it might be worth it just to see him playing with Davis, after BD torched the Mavs in 07, tore out their heart, and dropped JT’s value in the process.
—Boris Diaw. Being shopped by Phoenix, along with Barbosa. With Maggette leaving, he might be a strong SF choice to play with/behind Thornton. Good versatility. Not sure what Phoenix wants with Mobley, but if they can move Diaw and Barbosa they will have massive capspace with Shaq and Nash’s deals coming off in 2010. Barbosa would be great too, and if BD is a Clip he’s a more logical target, but he would get in front of Gordon, and the salaries don’t match up. If Barbosa goes elsewhere, then Mobley could fill his spot, but it’s hardly an upgrade that helps Phoenix win a title now with Shaq and Nash. If they can deal Barbosa for some kind of upgrade that helps them win, then maybe they would exchange Diaw for Mobley.
—Hinrich. Maybe this one doesn’t make quite so much sense, but it’s worth mentioning. Hinrich presents a glaring problem on the Bulls salary page, and it would look better with Mobley. They might lose Duhon and if they play their cards right with Deng and cast a cold eye on Ben Gordon they could look good in the Year of Lebron and DWade. How well does Hinrich fit on the Clips? Let’s just say he’s better and does a lot more things than Mobley.
Anybody else?
by citizen zhiv on Jul 1, 2008 7:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tayshaun Prince for Mobley
We should do what it takes to get Tayshaun Prince. Throw in Jordan + first round pick.
by bballanalyst on Jul 1, 2008 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
CS i clicked on the link you had when talking about Crawford
but i didn’t see anything in that story about the reported trade talks of mobley to new york. But that would be great if the clips can pull it off. How good is Crawford on defense? Can he guard a kobe? (cat really wasn’t a bad defender but I’m a little worried about our defense for some reason…)
by cantthinkofagoodname on Jul 1, 2008 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I noticed that...
Abrams had the proposed trade in an earlier version of the story. But he’s taken it out at this point. Not sure what that means. I’ll try to find link for it.
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by Steve Perrin on Jul 1, 2008 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marketing Baron Davis
While you’re at it, you might find the link to the LAT Kirk Streeter article about Davis as “The King of LA,” from a couple years ago. Not sure where I saw it, but it does a good job of beginning to map out BD’s connections to the city. Elsewhere I saw someone mention that BD, who was the crowd favorite at Steve Nash’s streetball soccer game last weekend (that one was through Marc Stein on TrueHoop, and I was reading it not thinking that BD was on his way to the Clips-also worth a link), was being begged by fans to join the Knicks and he said “I think it’s time to go home.” Hmmm-should have spotted that.
What would it be like to be working at the Clipper Ticket Office right now? And what’s going on at Clippers.com?
What about Milph! They should start growing beards!
Nation is growing by the second. What’s going to happen to our sleepy little website and its sophisticated discourse? Jax forgets Stuckey and John R silently watches Maggette commit NBA hari-kari, but what about the… newbies?!
As long as CS gets into j-school, it will all be worth it. And what about AT3! That was another link (sorry-old man zhiv is a pathetic Luddite)-the story this morning about “the Clips falling apart” in the OCR, by the newbie of newbies. Very “Dewey Beats Truman,” in the perfectly appropriate place on the perfect day. Good timing, OCR. Send somebody out to cover Kobe’s sock choice for USA basketball, while BD and EB transform the city and the NBA, no big thing.
by citizen zhiv on Jul 1, 2008 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the OCR link
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/clippers-brand-game-2081323-phoenix-playoffs
Egg on their face indeed.
by OhMeOhMy on Jul 1, 2008 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG you had me worried when I read the first line.
I thought the deal fell through! AHHH!
That;s not funny man. lol a little more explanation next time,
by cantthinkofagoodname on Jul 1, 2008 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A great, great point...
You beat me to the punch. With all the things to say about this, I hadn’t gotten to it yet, but the OCR’s decision that the Clippers are irrelevant, and AT3’s re-assignment to covering who knows what (Los Al football?) seems really badly timed. Not to mention that article.
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by Steve Perrin on Jul 1, 2008 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All part of the karma
Like Maggette, AT3 absorbed the hit for the great good. DTS should give him a piece of an apartment building too. A much smaller apt. building than Maggette. Maybe a duplex, but something.
by citizen zhiv on Jul 1, 2008 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been thinking about the crawford trade...
if the clippers only would have to give up mobley, deAndre Jordan and maybe a pick, you do that! You do that in a second! Not many teams can say that everyone in their starting 5 can go dor 20 easily on a given night. Think about that! Actually, I cant think of any team that can say that off the top of my head. Plus we have somewhat of a bench in gordon, knight and thomas and a few servicable bigs.
by cantthinkofagoodname on Jul 1, 2008 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't give up Jordan
Why would the Clips put Jordan in the deal? Jordan is a huge potential asset. The Clips don’t need to make the deal, they can stand pat. No pick. Crawford has a contract that the Knicks need to get rid of.
What do you think about Jason Terry, Diaw, or Hinrich?
by citizen zhiv on Jul 1, 2008 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not giving up on Jordan.. I see his potential... as trade bait. jk
Crawford may have a contract the knicks need to loose, but it’s not a bad one. I don’t mind taking it off their hands because I don’t think there will really be that many free agents available in 2010. A lot of these teams that are giving away talent will be disappointed. You may be right not to include Jordan, I was just thinking about the now, not the 3 years from now when he learns hot to play.
In all honesty, I don’t know much about Jason terry. From what I’ve seen he’s a good scorer and energy guy. Someone you’d want coming off the bench. He can be a somewhat tough defender but I don’t know if he could stay in front of a chris paul and I think he’s too small to guard a kobe. We have a player like him in Gordon (I think) except terry has better ball handling skills. He is a Donleavy guy though.
Diaw might be interesting. But sometimes it looks like he plays with as much enthusiasm as Tim Thomas.
Hinrich seems expensive for a backup point guard to baron davis. Unless we want to design our roster like USA basketball and play 2 point guards at the same time like they did over last summer, I don’t see how he fits in with the clippers.
The teams to target are the teams stuck in no-mans land… not good enough to make the playoffs but too good for the top 8 picks in the draft. Also teams looking to clear cap space… Memphis, New York, New Jersey, Charlotte, Sacrimento, maybe even seattle and minnesota if we include some picks… (I would say Golden State but I don’t think they’re too happy with us right now.)
We could go after mike miller again.
Or we could trade Mobley and another expiring contract and some picks for Wallace and
Felton. That would be awesome, but highly unlikely.
by cantthinkofagoodname on Jul 1, 2008 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
or we could keep mobley
for a fith scoring option, he’s not bad. Plus, by the time he and tims contracts come off the books it should be thornton extension and gordon extension time and the clippers wont be tempted to spend that money and we wouldn;t be forced to see those guys walk.
by cantthinkofagoodname on Jul 1, 2008 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep Mobley.
He’s a good veteran presence that can stil score some and who defends. A solid 5th option for this coming season.
by OhMeOhMy on Jul 1, 2008 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem
is that the team needs a more athletic 2 who can play point more than Mobley. Brevin is brittle and injury prone. They have to find another pg.
by Jax on Jul 1, 2008 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crawford fits that description
but would Baron and Crawford work in the same backcourt? It certainly is a lot of talent and a stratospheric upgrade from last season. Maybe it is worth a shot to find out.
by OhMeOhMy on Jul 1, 2008 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
63.4 vs 65
That’s like 2.5% error.
I’ll get it right next time.
by John R on Jul 1, 2008 7:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
CS...did any CN citizen
foresee such a signing? I was giddy at work today and could not stop refreshing the LATIMES page…
I think they should sign SL to a 1yr 1-2mil and hope that he comes around by training camp.
For one day, my favorite team is all over the tv and sports radio for other than bad news!!
Gotta give credit to Donald, he’s got bitten by the winning bug (and the coin that comes with a winning team) and pulled the trigger on this deal.
by Lawler's Law on Jul 1, 2008 7:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Give DTS credit
He said he would pay star money for star players. The Clips moved a bunch of stuff around and made the big offer to Kobe, and he punked them.
Now he got BD, a star player with vast marketing potential in Los Angeles, for arguably a great deal less than star money. Worked out nicely. He’s a wacky dude, but on many things he has been pretty solid for awhile.
It would be a nice gesture if he gave Maggette a couple of million out of his pocket or a partnership in an apartment building, just for good service and good citizenship. And I have to say, it wouldn’t surprise me.
by citizen zhiv on Jul 1, 2008 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to give credit to DTS and MDSr
Somehow they got it done.
by Jax on Jul 1, 2008 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
we should really be thanking EB
this never would have happened if he wasn’t a really great guy.
by cantthinkofagoodname on Jul 1, 2008 7:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Giving EB credit
All hail EB. Yes, it happened because he is a great guy. But it also happened because he took responsibility for his own business. All of the signs point to the idea that EB spoke directly to BD and hatched this plan. Great guy, great businessman, great player. The full package.
Yeah, now we should trade him for Beazley and Shawn Marion, right Heat fans? Have you given up yet?
Wait a minute, I have an idea: how about Mobley and Thomas for Shawn Marion? The Clips would do that.
by citizen zhiv on Jul 1, 2008 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even Nicer
Would be a statue of EB. Saw this elsewhere—”EB is a saint. They should put a statue of him in front of Staples next to Magic.”
Maybe I’ll start working on the statue and put it in my front yard, and then they can move it downtown if the Clips can win a title.
All hail EB!
by citizen zhiv on Jul 1, 2008 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Clippers would but the trade doesn’t make sense for Miami. They would trade a valuable trade piece for a backup for Wade and a PF/SF backup to Beasley and Haslem all while adding 1 extra year of contract to the books. Clippers would have to throw in the future Minnesota pick at the very least.
by ClipperChuck on Jul 1, 2008 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
im pretty sure
the whole Mobley and Thomas for Shawn Marion thing posted above was a sarcastic joke.
A lot of us like rumors that favor the clippers for once. For the past month we’ve been hearing all sorts of rumors and trade talks that wouldn’t even benefit the clippers. It’s fun to joke back at them every now and again, especially to miami because they’ve wanted brand for years.
by cantthinkofagoodname on Jul 1, 2008 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ClipperChuck is new
He’ll figure out how to read that sarcastic lilt in Zhiv’s typing soon enough.
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by Steve Perrin on Jul 2, 2008 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes...a big Thank You
note from the Nacion would be nice…
by Lawler's Law on Jul 1, 2008 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gracias, EB42
Thank you Elton Brand, for putting the team ahead of a max payday. This unselfish, classy act made it possible to land Baron Davis and to pair you with the elite PG you sorely desrve. EB = A True Franchise Player.
by OhMeOhMy on Jul 1, 2008 7:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Man
I can’t believe it. 2 terrific ball players take less money to play with the Clippers?! It’s got to be a dream. That doesn’t happen. It just doesn’t. A pig just flew by my window. Cats and dogs living together. And, it’s funny. He’s right. This probably is already the best Clipper team ever. Ever. And, realistically, we’re talking about maybe 50 wins. Maybe. And, maybe the 2nd round. Maybe. But, these guys are the real deal. They’re going to scrap and fight every game. And, man, I will enjoy watching it.
by Jonee on Jul 1, 2008 8:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Baron Davis Intangibles
My old buddy Arnab posted this over at the Clipper ESPN message board with the title above:
we all know what baron can do as a point guard. but there’s more:
1) we have the clutch-time player we’ve never had. sam tried, and sometimes succeeded but often his ambition overrode his ability at this point in his career.
2) leadership. sam was a leader too, but baron’s going to be a clipper for 5 more years and he’s closer in age to the younger players. elton’s too quiet, sam could be too loud; baron will be perfect.
3) intensity. again, elton, as great as he is, doesn’t have it. he’s a lead by example guy. baron’s presence will mean the young prospects-be it the lottery talent (thornton or gordon) or the second round reaches (jordan, taylor)-will shape up or ship out.
4) the beard. worth about 10 games
by citizen zhiv on Jul 1, 2008 8:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's true
All great points I totally agree with. Sam’s swagger brought how many extra wins. Baron has just as much swagger and much more talent, and he’s 29.
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by Steve Perrin on Jul 1, 2008 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do NOT underestimate...
the power of the beard…John R and I know full-well its awesome power…
by Clip Show on Jul 1, 2008 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus
I would add the homecoming factor. I really believe that BD sees this move as part of his destiny, that he and EB can put the Clippers on the LA map like never before.
by citizen zhiv on Jul 1, 2008 8:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm Sold!
Anyone know if the Clippers are going to have the two for one special for season tickets this year? I’m down to buy season tickets now that it looks like we have a shot at the playoffs and more.
by ClipperChuck on Jul 1, 2008 9:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They have had that deal ...
since 2001…but I imagine if you dont get in on the action tomorrow…you might miss out…:)
by Clip Show on Jul 1, 2008 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Hope
he tears his mcl in training camp. and makes a movie about how sad he is, and then no one comes to see it.
Creator of the kick 61ixty out of GSOM movement.
Warriors for life. Raiders till death. And The A's when i get free tickets.
by STIX on Jul 2, 2008 12:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Now that is just bitter
(but pretty funny, and it would be in keeping with Clipper tradition)
by mikey p on Jul 2, 2008 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another GSOM'er Warrior Fan Here
I’m awfully sad to see the Baron leave the bay. As far as I’m concerned, he has been nothing but a class act, and I’m grateful for the 2 years he gave us. And I predict he will be an All-Star for you guys. I don’t hate on him at all for how he left, that was just business. Congratulations. I still hope we beat you, but that’s gonna be a lot tougher now.
by Hoopachoo on Jul 2, 2008 9:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
and so ends
the Dickau/Knight era…Welcome aboard BD…let’s hope MDsr will be a bit more flexible in running his offense…
by Lawler's Law on Jul 2, 2008 10:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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