Clips indeed do sign Ricky Davis...
The Los Angeles Clippers today signed veteran free agent swingman Ricky Davis to a multi-year contract, it was announced by Vice President of Basketball Operations Elgin Baylor. Per team policy, terms of the deal were not announced.
Carrying career averages of 14.3 points, 3.7 rebounds, 3.5 assists and 31.1 minutes, Davis tallied 13.8 points, 4.3 rebounds and 3.4 assists in 82 games played for the Miami Heat during the 2007-08 season. The 6-foot-7-inch Iowa product also connected on 420-971 FG (.433), 135-333 3FG (.405) and 155-197 FT (.787) on the year.
“We believe he will be a good addition,” Clippers Vice President of Basketball Operations Elgin Baylor said. “His versatility and ability to shoot from the outside will spread the floor and help our low post players.”
Davis turned in his most productive NBA season in 2002-03 with the Cleveland Cavaliers, averaging 20.6 points, 5.5 assists and 4.9 rebounds in 79 games played.
Davis was originally selected by the Charlotte Hornets in the first round (21st overall) of the 1998 NBA Draft, after one season at Iowa where he tallied 15.0 points, 4.8 rebounds and 2.4 assists per game.
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was just about to post this..
how much did we get him for? It has to be the 3 mil a yr we offered azubuike right? If it is, this is definitely a steal. He is better than mobly in my opinion.
I can't see them
Going over the cap to get him, so I am assuming it is for the $3m, and at that price, I agree it is an excellent signing. The question is can MDsr turn him into the player he has the potential to be, or will he send his years here in the doghouse. Either way, he is an exciting scorer, so YAY CLIPS!
"Lets get one thing straight, the only reason you are conscious right now is because I don't feel like carrying you." - Jack Bauer
"Consequences, Schmonsequences, as long as I'm rich." - Daffy Duck
Powell’s $$ is guarenteed this year. Can’t renounce him.
by HT on Jul 28, 2008 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I like it!!!!
Davis has a bad rap in the league, but there is no doubt that he can score, get some boards and assists. He turns the ball over a lot, but him and Baron in the backcourt will definitely be exciting, he can run. I think it’s a very good signing, since it had to be for little money. Excellent job imo!!!!!!!
"Lets get one thing straight, the only reason you are conscious right now is because I don't feel like carrying you." - Jack Bauer
"Consequences, Schmonsequences, as long as I'm rich." - Daffy Duck
I likey
I was concerned that we weren’t going to score enough. Davis should help the offense. I just hope that he has outgrown his selfish ways and buys into Dunleavy’s defensive mindset.
I love it, but I guess....
This means that Liv is definitely gone, it’s bittersweet!
"Lets get one thing straight, the only reason you are conscious right now is because I don't feel like carrying you." - Jack Bauer
"Consequences, Schmonsequences, as long as I'm rich." - Daffy Duck
I hope so...
"Lets get one thing straight, the only reason you are conscious right now is because I don't feel like carrying you." - Jack Bauer
"Consequences, Schmonsequences, as long as I'm rich." - Daffy Duck
not good
As much as he puts up points, there is a reason why he can’t stick to any team, even the bad Miami one from last year. Lets hope his me-first gunning mentality doesn’t rub off on the young guys: Thornton and Gordon…if it does then this season might become a disaster.
Maybe we can trade for Marbury, sign Isiah Rider out of retirement, and then we can have the ultimate bad-boys-no-conscience lineup of Steph, Isiah, and Ricky D stealing the ball from one another.
I won't get too excited too soon...
But I like the signing given the fact there aren’t too many good ones available.
This all reminds me of the Ruben Patterson signing. I’d say this is a good “temporary” solution given the current FA pool (and money we have). But no reason to get too excited about. If I were to pick between Mobley and Davis though, I would pick Mobley hands down because of his leadership, cool-headedness, and team-oriented approach. I haven’t seen that materialize in Davis, however.
He's better than Ruben, but
Not something I’m overly excited about
from espn
Davis
The Los Angeles Clippers announced on Monday that they signed free agent Ricky Davis. Sources told ESPN.com’s Chad Ford that the deal was for two years and $4.7 million with an opt out clause for Davis after his first year.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3508759
so its for about 2.3 mil a yr?? wow very worth it imo
I like it even more now!!!!
So with the opt out it’s like a contract year for him, so he has to prove he is worth more or he will be stuck the rest of his career for little money. He will need to be on good behavior!!!!!
"Lets get one thing straight, the only reason you are conscious right now is because I don't feel like carrying you." - Jack Bauer
"Consequences, Schmonsequences, as long as I'm rich." - Daffy Duck
Concerned
While I think Davis has talent, his attitude concerns me also. I can almost see a run in with MDsr already. I will hope for the best. Given what remained available, what choice did we have.
On the Liv question above, we can sign any player for the league min salary to fill out our roster without reguard to the salary cap.
After thought- now all we need to do now is resign Paul Davis and Ralph will have to say “Davis to Davis to Davis, Bingo”.
I agree
he is better than Cat IMO. Credit to the Clips for making anothe bold move. I will admit even though I’m still not over Buike, RD is good option. Still I would have put JR Smith and Salmons over him. I do hope for the best and wish that RD puts his heart and effort with the Clips. The last thing the Clips need is a selfish player. Good luck
really?
You really think overall RD is better than Mobley???
I hope NOT.
They need to save that money for 2010….... We to make a play at the big free agents.
"Lets get one thing straight, the only reason you are conscious right now is because I don't feel like carrying you." - Jack Bauer
"Consequences, Schmonsequences, as long as I'm rich." - Daffy Duck
I don't see that happening....
...unless the Clips are given an offer they can’t refuse
Oh yeah, can someone bring up the comparative stats between RD and Mobley since Mobley came to the clips? Mobley brings MORE to the team than what RD can provide, not to mention good post-up moves. If anything, this should motivate Mobley to do better with his outside shooting or RD will end up taking his spot (if RD proves he STILL can shoot from the outside)
Davis' career numbers....
G GS MIN FG% 3P% FT% STL BLK TO PF OFF DEF TOT AST PTS
664 333 31.1 .449 .364 .783 1.1 0.3 2.3 2.0 0.8 2.8 3.7 3.5 14.3
"Lets get one thing straight, the only reason you are conscious right now is because I don't feel like carrying you." - Jack Bauer
"Consequences, Schmonsequences, as long as I'm rich." - Daffy Duck
How about comparative numbers/stats between RD and Mobley
...since the time Mobley signed with the clips?
How about last season?
Both players in their 10th seasons, Mobley being 4 years older.
Get me BD and 75 and I'm in
nice, thanks for this.
I think RD and Mobley should complement well. On that note, I don’t think we should get rid of Mobley (unless we can get someone REALLY good in return as a trade package)
Name Team Pos Start m/g p/g 3/g r/g a/g s/g b/g fga/g fg% fta/g ft%
Davis,Ricky MIA F 57% 35.9 13.8 1.6 4.3 3.4 1.1 0.2 11.9 43.2% 2.4 78.7%
Name Team Pos Start m/g p/g 3/g r/g a/g s/g b/g fga/g fg% fta/g ft%
Mobley,Cuttino LAC G 49% 35.0 12.8 0.9 3.6 2.6 1.0 0.4 11.3 43.3% 2.6 81.9%
last year’s stat comparision Davis v. Mobley: Pt/gm advantage Davis by 1; 3/g Davis by .7, reb/game Davis by .7, Asst/gm Davis by .8, Steals/gm Davis by .1, FGAtmp/gm Davis by .6 FG% Mobley by .1%, FT/gm Mobley by .2, FT% Mobley by 3.2 percent
i think he getsa bum rap
i mean, after that triple double thing, i can’t really remember an actual real altercation he’s had, or any problem he’s had with the law.
the guy even had some sort of foundation in cleveland. for 2.3 million and the fact that he really isnt allthat bad a player i think this is a great signing.
i think he’s maybe a little misunderstood as it is. sure maybe he’s not a good defender, but the guy if you’ve watched him is not a bad passer and he can clearly score at a reasonable percentage.
at worst he’s like the SG version of tim thomas for less money. and as a backup how can you really complain
I hear you but...
I think that’s what we all said when we signed Ruben Patterson…
Don’t get me wrong, I really like the signing….but its not something I would really get excited about. But with the current FA availability, it is still a good signing.
40% 3 pt shooting?
did not realize that RD had such a good season shooting the 3—if he can keep that up (he’s 36% for his career)—then this will be not just a very good signing but a great one.
Get on the Davis Chuckwagon
The Davis’ will have all the shots they want with Camby, Kaman and Fazekas there to shag balls for them.
Get me BD and 75 and I'm in
Ricky Davis would make sense if the team is ready to contend for a playoff spot right now. Otherwise, it would be preferable for Eric Gordon, DeAndre, Mike Taylor, and Marcus Williams get some heavy minutes.
Ricky Davis is what he is, he won’t get any better and he won’t change his stripes…it might work if he is happy with around 10-12 minutes a game off the bench, but that is not likely. If Dunleavy is under pressure to win now, Ricky Davis might get heavy minutes behind Mobley, especially if Gordon forces alot of shots early in the season.
That scenario would be a tragedy this team. If we are going to win around 30 games this year and miss the playoffs, I would rather see us go with the young fellas, see what they have, and build for next year…cheering for Ricky Davis, like cheering for Ruben Patterson last year didn’t inspire much enthusiasm in the Staples Center.
we ARE ready...
to contend for a playoff spot this year ;)
"Lets get one thing straight, the only reason you are conscious right now is because I don't feel like carrying you." - Jack Bauer
"Consequences, Schmonsequences, as long as I'm rich." - Daffy Duck
its a stretch...but possible in the best case scenario
We have a chance of making the playoffs this year, but it depends on alot of things breaking our way. First, we need Baron Davis to have one of his most inspired year and be healthy for at least 65 games. Second, we need Kaman to become even better and more consistent than last year, averaging close to 16 pts, 10 boards, and 2 blocks a game. Third, we need Thornton to become a legitimate 20 pts/8 boards a night guy who shoots a high percentage. Then we need Gordon to make the NBA rookie team, and for everyone else in our lineup to play some of the best ball of their career. Otherwise, we probably won’t make the playoffs. I am keeping my expectations low, and if everything works out, then I can be pleasantly surprised.
Those who think
Maggette had an attitude ain’t seen nothing yet
difference is...
Maggette had options, Davis’s are running out and at some point he will have to realize that. Given that, I will give him the benefit of the doubt until he proves otherwise.
"Lets get one thing straight, the only reason you are conscious right now is because I don't feel like carrying you." - Jack Bauer
"Consequences, Schmonsequences, as long as I'm rich." - Daffy Duck
Maggette had a great attitude
I disagree with those who think he was a cancer. His teammates always spoke highly of him.
I say that anybody who thinks Maggette took ill-advised shots ain’t seen nothing yet.
F-Elton!
I agree with you.
Maggette was a consummate professional.
Artest's teammates think highly of him too
Does that make him a wonderful addition to the clubhouse? (I’m just saying how other players view other players isn’t necessarily the best way to address poor chemistry.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
What you say?
Players, even elite ones, aren’t necessarily the best evaluators of talent and/or chemistry?
Get me BD and 75 and I'm in
Yup pretty much
Kevin Martin got pissed off at Reggie Theus in April because Theus was saying that in crunchtime that Artest was the only player the Kings could rely on in that situation. It was a stupid statement on several fronts, but the strongest statement from Martin’s end was that Martin believed Artest and Martin are both those type’s of players. Reggie’s comments seemed to stem from his need to appease Ron-Ron to keep him on the roster and happy.
That’s why I think these whole “every guy on the roster loves Maggette” comments are funny to me. It’s almost identical to what I’ve heard about Artest these last several years. (For the record don’t want either guy, ever, under any circumstances, on my team.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Ricky can play the 2 or 3, no?
"Lets get one thing straight, the only reason you are conscious right now is because I don't feel like carrying you." - Jack Bauer
"Consequences, Schmonsequences, as long as I'm rich." - Daffy Duck
so we should be fine with Ricky in the rotation for 2 and 3...
"Lets get one thing straight, the only reason you are conscious right now is because I don't feel like carrying you." - Jack Bauer
"Consequences, Schmonsequences, as long as I'm rich." - Daffy Duck
Given the Clippers needs
Aren’t they far better off with Ricky Davis (as much as I hate his arse) than they would be with John Salmons? (I think so.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
I hope that he plays well.
He is talented. And he’s a good three point shooter and passer, both of which they need.
Really???
Yes I do think RD is better than Cat. Not by alot though. I guess I just feel he’s more athletic that’s all. Is that a good reason?? I too like Cat but for the price that we got for RD, I also think we should trade Cat. For who though??
and has more legs left.
"Lets get one thing straight, the only reason you are conscious right now is because I don't feel like carrying you." - Jack Bauer
"Consequences, Schmonsequences, as long as I'm rich." - Daffy Duck
I dont get all the "Trade Cat" talk...
why?...what’s wrong with having Cat and RD on the floor at the same time? and the Clips will get NOTHING in a trade..this makes zero sense right now. Maybe at the trade deadline…maybe….and definitely next year…but not right now.
Think line changes
BD/Cat
Hart/Davis
Offense/defense on each shift.
Get me BD and 75 and I'm in
agreed 100%
"Lets get one thing straight, the only reason you are conscious right now is because I don't feel like carrying you." - Jack Bauer
"Consequences, Schmonsequences, as long as I'm rich." - Daffy Duck
i think he's an under-rated passer.
in 06-07 and 05-06 he averaged 4.8 assists. that isnt bad for a small forward / sg.
granted he averaged 3.4 last year. but the heat were tanking it and were playing hordes of d-leaguers and wade didnt play. i think on a decent to good team (which the clips will be) he will be pretty efficient.
i mean 06-07 the guy shot 46% from the field and 40 from the 3. i think even if he’s a bad defender, he’s efficient enough offenseively that he cant possible hurt. especially a 4.6 million for 2 years.
His stats suggest
that he’s a better three point shooter than Cat (40%). We know he’s more athletic. We’ll see about his defense. Assuming that his attitude isn’t poor, not a bad signing.
Put me in
the plus column. Probably because he’s killed us or at least it seems like he has killed us. Seems like a good fit for what we need. This team is positioned for a playoff run if Baron and Camby stay healthy. Given Clipper health history I’d be surprised to even see both of them healthy on opening day.
No mo Q Ross
On the plus side, maybe adding Ricky Davis means the end of the Q Ross experiment…we traded all defense and no offense for all offense and no defense…on the whole, it might be the lesse of two evils as long as Ricky Davis doesn’t burn down the locker room and leaving cadavers in his wake.
no defense maybe, but....
Baron and Ricky will put together a lot of steals, and with Camby/Kaman we will get a ton of blocks, that makes up for some…
"Lets get one thing straight, the only reason you are conscious right now is because I don't feel like carrying you." - Jack Bauer
"Consequences, Schmonsequences, as long as I'm rich." - Daffy Duck
not good
I’m doubting Ricky Davis and his ability to score. He was good during his time with the Cavs, but it was pretty much down hill for him from there. Overall not really a good trade, not a terrible one either, but the Clippers didn’t have much of a choice.
he was double teamed EVERY possession....
last year when Wade wasn’t on the court, with the Clips he won’t be. He can still score, without a doubt, just look at his career numbers on teams where he was one of the primary scoring options that were bad. Teams will have their hands full with the Clips to worry about double teaming RIcky!
"Lets get one thing straight, the only reason you are conscious right now is because I don't feel like carrying you." - Jack Bauer
"Consequences, Schmonsequences, as long as I'm rich." - Daffy Duck
This wasn't a trade...
it was a free agent signing…the Clippers did have a choice…and so did RD. We will see how it plays out.
Hi is backup on the 3
I see RD being a backup to Thorton more then to Mobley. I am sure he will get minutes at both spots. With Gordon hopefully commanding more and more minutes as the season progresses, he should be the primary backup at the 2 and who knows maybe starter by seasons end. That would push RD’s court time even more to the 3 spot.
I like this move a lot!!!
Look, players can reform and mature with a change in scenery. Look at Stephen Jackson or Artest.
I think the leadership skills of Baron Davis will be crucial next season. Camby, Mobley, and others will also be good influences.
agreed....
It’s nice to see others that see the glass as half full. If the Clippers management is trying to change the franchise, the least we can do as fans is get behind it and be positive until they show incompetence. AS of right now, the moment Brand left, they have made good moves and didn’t panic. REALLY looking forward to next year.
"Lets get one thing straight, the only reason you are conscious right now is because I don't feel like carrying you." - Jack Bauer
"Consequences, Schmonsequences, as long as I'm rich." - Daffy Duck
The glass isn't even half full
It’s completely full in my opinion. I would have chosen R. Davis over Azubuike. We needed instant offense off the bench at the 2/3. I bet R. Davis will even have a chance to start in front of Thornton some nights.
by bballanalyst on Jul 28, 2008 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I suspect he'd start over Cat
before he starts over Thornton
Good signing
Really just a calculated gamble by the Clips. We get a legitimate NBA starter level talent for bargain price. It’s really a one-year deal as Ricky has an option for the 2nd year which he would only exercise if he bombed this year. He’ll want to put up big numbers as he turns the big 3-Oh next year and wants to get one last big deal. In otherwords its the NEXT team to sign him who should really be worried.
He’s big enough to play SF and its not as if there are alot of post-up 3’s in the league. He’s also athletic enough to make the Kobes of the world work on offense and defense. While he’s hardly been a terrific teammate I don’t remember hearing anyone call him a cancer.
Here’s the new depth chart:
PG – B. Davis/C. Hart/E.Gordon
SG – C. Mobley/Ricky Davis/E. Gordon
C – C. Kaman/M. Camby
PF – M. Camby/T. Thomas/C. Kaman/A. Thornton
SF – A. Thornton/T.Thomas/R.Davis
We have alot of guys capable of playing multiple positions. Tim can slide between the 3 and 4 depending on matchups. So can Al if its a smallish 4 (like David West or Marion). Camby and Kaman can play both the 4 or 5. R. Davis can play the 2 or 3. E. Gordon might be able to play the 1 and 2.
I think this is how the minutes will be allocated (or should be). Really keep a rotation of 8 guys with some fringe minutes for the younger guys. EG in particular can earn more time playing PG, as Hart should only be used to give B Diddy a rest. He doesn’t need to do much play-calling, just kind of mimic what Eddie House did in the Finals. Hopefully we are on the good side of some blowouts next year and get DJ, EG some burn time.
Minutes:
PG: Baron – 35, Hart – 10, Gordon – 3
SG: Mobley – 25, Ricky – 15, Gordon – 8
C: Kaman – 35, Camby – 13
PF: Camby – 20, Thomas – 20, Thornton – 3
SF: Thornton – 28, Ricky – 15, Thomas – 5
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i have yet to see any evidence that EG can play PG
point guard is the hardest position to learn, and since gordon didn’t play PG in college at all, it’s hard to believe he can do it as a rookie
I agree
I doubt he will succeed as a PG (that’s why I preferred Bayless) so he’s kind of always going to be a undersized 2. But he could be a more dynamic Derek Fisher type guard who can make up for lack of playmaking skills for others by being a lights-out shooter and hard nosed defender. Guys like Monta Ellis and Barbosa are kind of similar so I think he’ll have the same struggles those guys have playing PG.
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by ClipperChuck on Jul 28, 2008 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Future Moves
Now we just need to resign Paul Davis…trade for Glen Davis, and coax Dale Davis out of retirement…so we can start 5 Davises.
Davis brothers, let the 3's rain
While he doesn’t represent a solid building block like Buke, there is no doubt that he can score….and take a lot of bad shots. Bonzi may have been a better fit, but I guess Davis the budget. Nonetheless, the Clips no doubt are adequate in scoring now. Defense on the other hand….is another story. Don’t know who the 15th man will be for now…but its been a fun july.
Certainly the team is not lacking in in Big Names now, with Davis, Davis, Camby and Cat Mobley leading the way. Whether or not these are just vets slightly past their prime or a good core while thronton and gordon continue developing is yet to be seen. If things go along to plan, the Clips will be entertaining.
I love LAC.

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