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Ricky Davis

December 13, 2004, Staples Center.  The Clippers have a double digit fourth quarter lead over the Boston Celtics.  Ricky Davis scores 19 fourth quarter points, including 11 in the final 4 minutes and the game-tying free throws with 8 seconds left, and the Celtics go on to win the game in the second overtime.

It's dangerous to evaluate a player based only on what he does to your team.  Let's face it, for a player like Ricky Davis, whose rarely even been in the post-season, I see him play against the Clippers and that's about it.  But he kills the Clippers, and always has.  He KILLS the Clippers.

So yes, my perspective is skewed, but I love the fact that the Clippers were able to sign him.  What's not to like?

Does Ricky Davis have issues?  Well, sure.  But what do you want for $2.3M? 

The Clippers needed a swing man, capable first and foremost of backing up the small forward position, but also capable of playing some guard.  Check and check.  They needed someone who could shoot with range.  Check.  Someone capable of scoring off the bench.  Check.  And they only had $2.3M to spend, so Luol Deng was not really an option.

The contract is a thing of beauty.  The first year salary was dictated by the amount of money the Clippers had to spend.  But the fact that he has a player option for the second season means that he has lots of incentive to play well, hoping to get more money next year.  (Although I don't expect him to opt out, as he played pretty well last year in Miami, and this is all he got offered, so it's unlikely he's going to increase his stock a lot playing behind Thornton.  But the incentive is there nonetheless.)  And it's only two years total, bringing to four (Ricky, Cat, Thomas and Camby) the number of Clippers whose contracts expire in summer 2010.  And don't underestimate the value of having four contracts of varying sizes expiring in 2010.  With Ricky ($2.3M), Thomas ($6M), Cat ($9.1M) and Camby ($10M) you can match basically any contract in the NBA.  The Clippers are one stop shopping for any NBA team that decides to have a fire sale targeting 2010 cap space.  Or they can just hang onto all those guys and keep all that lovely cap space for themselves.

But it's more than just a nice contract.  It's a good signing, because Ricky Davis can play.  Sure, he's a bit of a chucklehead.  And having Tim Thomas and Ricky Davis on the same team will definitely create some frustration for fans of heady basketball and floor burns.  But Ricky Davis would probably have been the 07-08 Clippers' second leading scorer.  And he'll be coming off the bench for this team.

And although clearly he's never been a coach's favorite anywhere he's been, I certainly don't think he deserves the 'cancer' label.  He's a chucker; he's not a great defender; but he's a good enough guy.  He's never, as far as I know, had any run-ins with the law.  There was of course the infamous 'triple-double' incident, but other than that, I can't think of any specific instances of untoward behavior.  I mean, he's not Ron Artest or Stephen Jackson, serial trouble-makers verging on insane.  He likes him some stats, and providing instant offense off the bench I think that it can be a symbiotic relationship for the Clippers.

Do I like Ricky Davis better than Kelenna Azubuike?  In some ways I do.  Obviously Azubuike is younger and we all fall in love with the idea of a player's potential.  But think about it - Kelenna Azubuike was in the D-League 19 months ago.  As well as he's done, and as far as he's come, wouldn't he be thrilled if some day he were as good as Ricky Davis?  And it's not like Buike had a reputation as a great defender in Oakland so he was also primarily an offensive signing.  Maybe Buike is going to turn into a star in the NBA, whereas we can be pretty certain that Davis is what he is, but look at it this way.  For the Clippers to keep this theoretical star Buike long term, they would have eventually had to pay him like a star.  With Davis, they can take the money and try to pay an actual star in 2010.  And I definitely like Davis better than Bonzi Wells or Devean George or some of the other names we've been hearing.  Bottom line:  I'm pleasantly surprised that the Clippers were able to pull this off with the money they had left.  He is a very good fit with this team.

I've seen comments suggesting that Baron Davis and Marcus Camby will keep Ricky in line.  Maybe - it's hard to say.  The Clippers have a lot of new faces and chemistry is going to be a major issue.  Of the returning players, Kaman is viewed as a bit of a space cadet, and Tim Thomas has never been a locker room leader.  That pretty much leaves Cat Mobley.  Baron, Cat and Camby will certainly try to provide veteran leadership for the club, but given that those three players played for three different teams last season, it remains to be seen how that will go.  I do know this - teams that are winning games seem to have fewer issues than teams that are losing games.  Funny how that works.

Interestingly, Ricky Davis has come up in the context of Clips Nation before.  When MDsr was experimenting with bringing Maggette off the bench in 06-07, I dug through years of stats looking for 20 point scorers, trying to prove that he should have been starting.  All of the 20 point scorers for the last 10 seasons were stars and starters for their teams, and all had either signed a big contract, or played in an all star game, or both.  All except two.  Ricky Davis and Mike James.  Ricky Davis is not as good as Corey Maggette - but he's similar in many ways.  He'll definitely score.  And he'll definitely make mistakes on defense and turn the ball over.  The biggest difference at this point of course is that Maggette's contract is worth 10 times as much as Davis'. 

Last thing.  If you'll recall, the Clippers lost many, many overtime games during that crazy 04-05 season.  In fact, nine days before the OT loss to Boston, they had lost a similar game to the Timberwolves.  After building a big lead, the Wolves came storming back in the fourth led by a player with an incredibly hot hand.  That player was Sam Cassell.  So sometimes when you sign a player who has killed you, it works out.

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Good signing

Cheap, can waive if becomes distraction. Can score in bunches, then when thats enough out of him, sit him. BD, Cat, Al, Camby, Kaman with Hart, Gordon, Ricky, Thomas, Deandre, etc…

by NamingRightsOnSale on Jul 29, 2008 2:11 AM PDT   0 recs

Great analysis CS and I agree...

I don’t think anyone was more excited about Buike than I was, but he’s not ours, so we have to move on. The best analogy I can use if that Buike was the smoking hot rocket scientist with a body like a hooters girl, she was perfect for us and we really saw a great future together. BUT, things happen and it just didn’t work out, so we went back out and found an absolutely stunning blonde with a killer body but not much brains, now I ask you all, do you NOT take home the not so smart blonde because she’s not a rocket scientist? I say NO, you take her home and enjoy everything she gives you, you know it may be a bumpy ride but it’ll sure as hell be fun :D

"Lets get one thing straight, the only reason you are conscious right now is because I don't feel like carrying you." - Jack Bauer

"Consequences, Schmonsequences, as long as I'm rich." - Daffy Duck

by Badd on Jul 29, 2008 7:33 AM PDT   1 recs

Citizen Badd

Breaking out the seriously high brow analogies.

The Clippers! The (second) Best NBA Team in LA!

by ClipperSteve on Jul 29, 2008 10:17 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I prefer to think of my analogies as....

Unibrow

"Lets get one thing straight, the only reason you are conscious right now is because I don't feel like carrying you." - Jack Bauer

"Consequences, Schmonsequences, as long as I'm rich." - Daffy Duck

by Badd on Jul 29, 2008 10:41 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ricky is a good fit

And you are correct, he has never been a “cancer” to a team.

F-Elton!

by mikey p on Jul 29, 2008 7:42 AM PDT   0 recs

Thank you Josh Childress

But for JSmoov going to Greece, it most likely would have been Ricky Davis playing in Greece next year. An offer was made to him, and to James Posey by the same team that signed JSmoov. However, when JSmoov showed interest and eventually signed, there was no longer any interest in RD which paved the way for RD to join BD and PD. The BtotheRtotheD!!

by daclipjoint on Jul 29, 2008 8:22 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

JChill

Childress is JChill – Smith is JSmoov. I might have let you get away with it if you hadn’t done it like 3 times. Awkward!

The Clippers! The (second) Best NBA Team in LA!

by ClipperSteve on Jul 29, 2008 10:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Oopps

my bad. What was I thinking??

by daclipjoint on Jul 29, 2008 2:42 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

This is great

I have had Ricky (hey Ricky) on the radar for the Clips since b4 the whole Elton John fleeing for family fiasco…..F-Elton!

Anywho- Ricky Davis is the classic stereo-typed athlete who has been labeled selfish…....yet Duke players back out on their word all the time are not?

For the money that Ricky signed for- this is a great signing for the Clippers! An experienced player who can score and bring a little attitude…....ie- watch him play against old teams that have dogged him like the C’s or Wolves or Heat.

Granted, Ricky’s flashes of brilliance are often overshadowed by periods of detachment from the team- but these have always been shi!!y teams with nothing to play for…...

HE will be playing this year for $$$.......and if a certain PG name Baron can help reign in the emotions of Stephen Jack1- I am sure that he will help to motivate his bros Davis to focus and play for a good name.

If all goes well- the Clippers make the playoffs as a 7 seed and beat the other L.A. team in the 1st round…...(would be nearly as good as an NBA title in Clipper land)

by tha MaDD Sientist on Jul 29, 2008 8:14 AM PDT   0 recs

It is what it is....

I’m not in love with the guy. There are other people who I would have preferred.

Moving on, I think that he can excel with a second unit. I think that Dunleavy is a tough coach who can control/channel R. Davis. I think that RD has enough of a history that Dunleavy was able to research and know what the team was getting into.

And…I think that he might be a little bit of the ‘Thug’ we need. I hope that he’ll bring a little toughness and credibility to our team. I don’t wanna be the ‘soft’ team of the West that you can push around. The Mavericks come to mind as being soft.

Personality wise and game wise, he reminds me a bit of Stephen Jackson, Boom Dizzle’s former running mate. As I recall, that combination worked well for GS. S Jack came to GS w/ many of the same negative perceptions. People didn’t think it would work but it did.

All in all, I hope this works out. If everyone does their job, things should be fine. It’s a big ‘If’, I know. And, winning cures all.

by Mr. Irrelevant on Jul 29, 2008 8:56 AM PDT   0 recs

We're Tougher Now Than Before

With Baron, Marcus, and now Ricky I don’t see us being a soft team. Thomas & Cat can also step in if need be.

by ghost_ride on Jul 29, 2008 11:28 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Mobley over Davis

After reading from other Heat fan, RD is good for a sub b/c he gives instant offense. He has no attitude issues b/c he was trooper thru the horrid season in Miami. However like Maggette in the last 5 minutes of a game, he is not the brightest.

I think we still need a big man to protect Camby and Kaman.

by Qlippers on Jul 29, 2008 9:51 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Looks Like

Davis or Elson are the most likely possibilities, other than DeAndre. Powell is up in the air.

by ghost_ride on Jul 29, 2008 11:24 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Mobley starts at the 2

Ricky likely gets some pretty big minutes, definitely at the 3, and maybe at the 2 as well, depending on how Gordon develops. But I suspect MDsr will go with a 3 player rotation of Thornton, Cat and Ricky on the wings at least in the early part of the season.

The Clippers! The (second) Best NBA Team in LA!

by ClipperSteve on Jul 29, 2008 10:22 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

tyree ricardo is the truth

a cuple months ago when the Fkingelton for marion and swap draft picks trade proposal was on the line, i wasn’t devastated because i thot there was a decent chance that ricky davis would be thrown in the deal… and after Fkingelton left to team up with the stellar big3 of igoudala sammy dalembert, i was still hoping to get ricky somehow cuz i knew hed be below the midlevel and he fills a huge need at the back up swingman spot after corey left… and years ago when he did a BETWEEN THE LEGS DUNK IN A GAME!!! i promised myself that if he ever came to the clippers i would buy his jersey immediately…
well, im currently 200 dollars poorer because im ordering the TDR31 jersey right now. my only question for clippersteve or anyone out there is this: i’m pretty sure they don’t do the “R.Davis” on the back of jerseys when they have two players with the same last name on the team (3 if u include paul davis, the new eric montross). but baron is gunna be the obvious big name on the team and i dont want people getting confused and dumb lakers fans asking me why i have the number 31 when hes supposed to be number 1. so… should i get the r.davis on the back or just the davis? PLEASE RESPOND PEOPLE

by althornton4president on Jul 31, 2008 12:55 PM PDT   0 recs

R. Davis

Go with the R. Davis. That’s what will be on his jersey.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by ClipperSteve on Jul 31, 2008 1:43 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

im talking about the authentic customized jerseys if anyone is confused (... cuz there aint no way theyre gunna be selling tyree ricardos at the Team LA store)

by althornton4president on Jul 31, 2008 12:56 PM PDT   0 recs

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