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Clippers Sign Brian Skinner

Continuing their very active off-season, the Clippers today signed former Clipper Brian Skinner.  Here's the press release:

The Los Angeles Clippers signed veteran forward Brian Skinner, Vice President of Basketball Operations announced today. Per team policy, terms of the deal were not announced.

Originally drafted by the Clippers in the first round (22nd overall pick) of the 1998 NBA Draft, Skinner is a 10-year NBA veteran who returns to Los Angeles after playing 66 games last season with the Phoenix Suns. Skinner averaged 3.3 points, 3.6 rebounds and 0.2 assists for Phoenix in 2007-08.

“Brian Skinner is a veteran NBA player who will give us both size and depth in the middle,” Baylor said. “We are familiar with Brian, and know that he will be a good fit in his return to the Clippers.”

Skinner has averaged 4.9 points, 4.9 rebounds and 0.5 assists in 538 career NBA games with eight different teams. The six-foot-nine forward started his career with the Clippers in 1998-99 and played three seasons in Los Angeles.

“We are very pleased to add Brian to our front line,” Clippers head coach Mike Dunleavy said. “He adds great size, presence and veteran experience to our team.”

In addition to the Clippers and Suns, the Texas native has also played for Cleveland, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Sacramento and Portland during his NBA tenure and has played in 21 career playoff games

Is anyone else struck by the symmetry?  He left the Clippers as part of the trade that brought Brand to LA, and he signs with the Clippers as a free agent after Brand bolts to Philly.

I always liked Skinner.  Of course, we're all unrealistic dreamers or we wouldn't be Clipper fans, but does anyone else recall how great he was playing before he twisted his ankle in 2000?  He was never the same for the Clippers after that, and hasn't gotten much of a chance anywhere else.

Obviously the team decided that they could take Josh Powell's spot and use it on a veteran.  Given that Powell did not seem to have a whole lot of head room, I think it's the correct decision.  Opting for a 32 year old over a 25 year old is the move of a team that wants to compete now.  But I didn't really see Powell getting a whole lot better.  Sometimes youth represents potential, and sometimes it just represents youth.

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You made this happen

With the what I did this summer post. Basically guaranteed at least one more move.

Get me BD and 75 and I'm in

by John R on Jul 31, 2008 2:47 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

LOL

I get it…the timing thing

F-Elton!

by mikey p on Aug 1, 2008 7:25 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Huh?

What, was Olawakandi not available?

Skinner was pretty much before my time as a Clipper fan, so I don’t know much about him, other than the fact that he was another in a long list of Clipper 1st Rd. picks that didn’t pan out.

I did think that Josh Powell was looking good late last year and thought he had room to grow. Must have looked pretty bad in camp.

F-Elton!

by mikey p on Jul 31, 2008 2:48 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Word on the street I saw somewhere

The Clippers asked him to go to summer league and he refused.

Get me BD and 75 and I'm in

by John R on Jul 31, 2008 2:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Not many #22 picks pan out...

That’s a little unfair… this will be Skinner’s tenth (or is it eleventh) year in the league! He was quite good in his early days with the Clips. Strong, fast, tenacious, good rebounder, not much offense, but not terrible, never really came back from that injury… but still, a better player than Powell.

by swamigusto on Jul 31, 2008 4:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I understand

But the Clippers still don’t draft well.

I just read that Ricky Davis was the #21 pick that year. Odd.

F-Elton!

by mikey p on Aug 1, 2008 7:28 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

That bugs me...

I think this is an old argument but that “Clips don’t draft well” stuff gets to me every time. I mean, go backwards over the last ten years: Gordon(?), Thornton, Korolev, Livingston, Kaman, Wilcox/Ely, Chandler, D.Miles/Q.Richardson, Lamar Odom, Olowokandi/Skinner. Olowokandi was a terrible bust (though everybody had him at one or two). Korolev sucked but in a thin draft. Miles turned into a head case (who couldn’t shoot), and Livingston had a bad injury. But the other guys are decent or better than decent. (Now if you want to go back further, much further things get very weak… the dark old scary days of LeRon Ellis, Randy Woods, and Bo Kimble). The draft is a crap shoot, but, overall, given similar opportunities, who’s drafted better than the Clips? (And yes, I’m way too lazy to do that kind of research.)

by swamigusto on Aug 1, 2008 8:50 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I think that's a fair point...

Unfortunately, the Clippers have not hit any home runs in those 10 drafts. And certainly there are teams who have drafted better, though probably with a similar number of busts mixed in. The facile argument of ‘they picked x when y was still available’ applies to every team in the NBA, when you consider that Carlos Boozer, Gilbert Arenas, Michael Redd, etc. etc. were all second round picks.

By the way, you can go back one more year than you do to Mo Taylor – a decent pick in a weak draft.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by ClipperSteve on Aug 1, 2008 10:50 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I drew the line at ten years...

But you can keep going back… Lorenzen Wright (is he still playing?), McDyess (actually Brent Barry, a Bill Fitch choice)/Piatkowski, even Lamond Murray had a long career. But once again CS is right (it’s getting boring), pretty good mid-first round picks but no home runs, no Amare, no Kobe, no Wade, just not there. Certainly NOT BAD, just not great.

by swamigusto on Aug 1, 2008 11:51 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I like this...

Skinner is a solid backup guy. He is a vet who will know his role on the team, and has playoff experience to boot. Solid pickup…and I am assuming this is for the min too…since the Clips don’t have any more $$ under the cap anyway.
Plus, he has (had ) a sweet goatee as well…Clips are turning into the all-facial hair team of the NBA. Baron with his beard, RD with his goat, Kaman with his blonde beard, CAt with his trimmed goatee and now Skinner with his 6 inch long “egyptian” goatee…unless he has gotten rid of it of course. The Clippers can turn into the anti-yankees, and mandate that all players must HAVE facial hair…(FYI: the Yankees have a team hair policy that reads:

“5. Only neatly cut beards, mustaches, goatees. No long hair or “unshaven looks.”

Kind of outdated I would think…but then again..they ARE the Yankees.)

Man…how young does Brian look in this pic?....Brian Skinner press release

by Clip Show on Jul 31, 2008 2:49 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Nice point on the goatee

I meant to bring up the King Tut, but then I forgot I guess. And it wasn’t just a King Tut – it was a two tone King Tut. Let’s hope he still has it.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by ClipperSteve on Jul 31, 2008 2:59 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I am looking for pics

on the web right now, and can’t seem to find any good ones. I will post a link once I get one.
The “devil/forked” goatee is the best!

by Clip Show on Jul 31, 2008 3:00 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Found one

It’s on the FanShots now.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by ClipperSteve on Jul 31, 2008 3:09 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I like the fact that

Brian Skinner even averaged a little over 1 block while playing about 12 minutes a game last year. Thats twice what josh powell blobked in 19 minutes. We’re looking to be one of the better shot blobking teams in the league next year…

by cantthinkofagoodname on Jul 31, 2008 2:59 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Lateral move?

Possibly. But if Skinner can help get us an extra win or two, it may make a huge difference in the WC. I hated Powell’s inability to make layups, let’s hope Skinner is more sure-fire around the rim.

by supac on Jul 31, 2008 3:01 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Terms

We don’t know the deal yet, but one assumes it’s a one year contract. I think the Clippers would have had to pick up the final two seasons of Powell’s contract to keep him. So while it may be lateral, it also gives them a bit more flexibility in what is, after all, an end-of-the-bench roster spot.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by ClipperSteve on Jul 31, 2008 3:03 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

So...

If they Clippers make a nice run here, doesn’t that set the stage for “Two Time Executive of the Year Elgin Baylor?” The potential wins improvement is high just because of how bad last year was. They obviously made a lot of moves.

He would then be tied with Jerry West, Geoff Petrie and Bryan Colangelo.

Weird.

Get me BD and 75 and I'm in

by John R on Jul 31, 2008 3:02 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

If so

Would Baylor receive the award posthumously while MDSr accepts it for him?

Oh what, Baylor is still alive?

MDSr: the overpaid coach/underpaid GM.

by supac on Jul 31, 2008 4:38 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

would it go to Baylor alone

or does Dunleavy get credit also? Honestly.

by oneight on Jul 31, 2008 9:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Another nice move

I’m happy to be getting Skinner back. Although it was clear he was not going to be a big star, he was a hard-working, likable player and I was sad to see him go. Perhaps I just have a soft spot in my heart for players who were part of the dark and depressing Chris Ford years!

by LA Creeper on Jul 31, 2008 3:07 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

So this is the big man they're referring to....

...heh…and I thought it would be Keith “Dental Floss” Closs

by clipFanInSD on Jul 31, 2008 3:29 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Strange Acquisition...

Not sure if I like this move, it seems we always pick up backup center/power forward with one foot in the grave; Skinner, Aaron Williams, or (shudder) Drobjnak to name a few. We should keep both Fazekas and Marcus Williams, rather than have Skinner take one of the remaining roster spot away from the young guys.

by MichaelCage on Jul 31, 2008 4:24 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

A agree with MC

I think/hope Skinner is a positive veteran presence (and I do like his shot blocking productivity mentioned above), but it just seems like there should be someone out there with a little more to offer… it feels like Walter McCarty the Sequel…

"Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted" – Albert Einstein

by Another son of Mike Smith on Jul 31, 2008 4:55 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Odd men out...

Assuming Jordan and Taylor stick, at least two of the following five are not coming back (could be three if we pick up someone after other teams’ final cuts):

P Davis, Fazekas, Livingston, Q Ross, M Williams.

"Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted" – Albert Einstein

by Another son of Mike Smith on Jul 31, 2008 5:00 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Does Skinner do ANYTHING?

I don’t know what value he brings to the team. I can’t name one reason why he should be on the team. Fazekas and M. Williams are at least young. Skinner seems old AND slow. I don’t wanna be rough. I just don’t know that Skinner does anything.

by Mr. Irrelevant on Jul 31, 2008 5:49 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

9pts and 10reb per 36 minutes last season

I mean, not an all-star, but thats a steal for the minimum.

That’s a lot of anything.

Get me BD and 75 and I'm in

by John R on Jul 31, 2008 6:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

My mistake

9pts. and 10 boards is very respectable. I guess that playing on 24 of the 29 teams in the NBA has helped Skinner out.

by Mr. Irrelevant on Jul 31, 2008 6:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

ok signing

nothing to be excited about anyways…clippers are just trying to put more depth in the bench…i still would have prefered azubuike

by highriser on Jul 31, 2008 7:18 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

What the? Are you serious?

Wow, I can’t comprehend this move at all….with the Clips boldly waiving Josh Powell, I thought they had Francisco Elson in the bag….but it turned out to be Brian Skinner. To say the least, I am a bit miffed at this move…as Skinner is definitely a Center, with no outside shot, and not the least fleet-footed. How this fits with the more mobile PFs in the league is beyond me. Already, Camby, Kaman, Jordan, and Fazekas are all suited to play at Center. Then they add a Skinner….to the mix. How this fits the run-and-gun style B Diddy is supposedly bringing is beyond me. Certainly a Paul Davis would make much more sense with his outside shot…and Powell was at least moderately athletic.

I can’t believe Clips Nation is happy about this move….there’s essentially 5 centers on the team now. TT will definitely get big and crucial minutes at PF now…there’s simply no way the Clips can run with all these lumbering Centers with no outside shot around. The Suns already tried the whole Shaq/Amare/Diaw frontline….too big, too half-court, doesn’t spread the floor well. I suppose Thronton can get some minutes at PF when they go super-small. The last roster spots are probably going to be guards now.
Per 36 minute stats are misleading….some guys produce the same whether they play 20 min a night or 30 min a night….so No, he didn’t average 9pts and 10 reb a game.

I love LAC.

by oasisman on Jul 31, 2008 8:06 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

I was going to say that brian skinner provides

more defense. He can probably fast enough and can defend (or pick up fouls) on a center if camby or kaman gets injured or in foul trouble. However when I tried to look up a video of a huge block or something to prove my point all I found were videos of him getting dunked on. haha

You do have a point about having a lot of bigs, but we’re only looking at the center position. The clippers have no legit PF… at all.
—Camby and kaman are the starters at the 4 and the 5. And they are 2 or the fastest big men in the league. With a rebound and a quick outlet pass baron can be off running with thornton and mobley/gordon/davis etc..
-Jordan isn’t anywhere near ready. He’s a project and we all know that. I hope MD sends him to the Dleague.
--Fazekas has great hands and he seems to be in the right place at the right time to get rebounds, but I don’t see him playing much defense…
-Thomas is really more of a 3 and couldn’t guard a real PF to save his life. He’ll get some minutes at the 4 only to spread the defense when camby or kaman exit
—-I agree about Paul Davis and who knows, maybe skinners contract is nongaurinteed like pattersons last year so he could still make the team.

by cantthinkofagoodname on Jul 31, 2008 8:34 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

That's an interesting point....

Where have all the power forwards gone?

by swamigusto on Jul 31, 2008 10:23 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

to Europe maybe?

I don’t really know…I know there’s a lot of overlap between the two positions, as Brian Skinner used to be considered a PF when he was younger, but after bouncing around, he became a prototypical backup center…perhaps due to his lack of offense.

Cantthink, you do make some good points…Camby is definitely fast. I just don’t know how the roster will shake out. Hopefully a spot for another shooter….how about richie frahm again?
It just seems the whole Josh Powell incident was a much ado about nothing. A lateral move, if that. Oh well, hopefully injuries will not pop their ugly head up too much. Skinner was ok on the Suns last year…before shaq arrived.

I love LAC.

by oasisman on Jul 31, 2008 11:34 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

i also should have probably said

That camby and kaman are 2 very different players. On offense, camby would roam around at the top of the key for Denver and kaman is a post presence although he’s been working on expanding his shot over the past 2 seasons.

The advantage to signing a known product in Brian skinner over Josh powell is that we all know skinner can is a known product, whereas josh powell may be younger but if I remember correctly he can be inconsistent at times and our team was drastically out rebounded last season. without EB… although that shouldn’t be a problem this season…

I expect the clippers to play both a half court and a running game. Although MDSR probably wont run as much as we all would like. The reason why shaq didn’t work out for the suns is that he’s old and slow, nowhere near as fast as camby or kaman.

by cantthinkofagoodname on Aug 1, 2008 11:13 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Sorry, one last point

In response to ClipperSteve’s comment about if anyone remembered how good brian skinner was before he twisted his ankle, I definitely cannot. He had flashes, but all I remember was his crazy hair. I also remembered Cherokee Parks and Sean Rooks drastically outplaying him. Oh well. He’s survived in the league for so long, I’m sure he’s fundamentally sound.

I love LAC.

by oasisman on Jul 31, 2008 11:47 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Check it out...

In 99-2000, Skinner’s second season in the league, he played terrific to start the season. Mo Taylor was hurt, and Skinner stepped into the starting lineup. He responded with seven double digit rebounding games in the month of November, and six games with 4 blocked shots. On November 19, he had 16 rebounds, 18 points and 4 blocks in 45 minutes. On December 14, he suffered a bad ankle sprain against the Lakers (IIRC) and he was never really the same for the Clippers. He returned in February, played mediocre basketball, and spent the following season in and out of the lineup with various injuries.

That’s 9 years ago. He lost explosiveness in the ankle injury and now he’s 32. But he can bang and he can block shots. Brian Skinner is pretty much what you get for the vet’s min. Look at it this way – the Suns last season were considered a serious title contender and free agents seem to want to play for them. Armed with only the vet’s minimum, they needed a big man to replace Kurt Thomas. They signed Brian Skinner.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by ClipperSteve on Aug 1, 2008 11:06 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Skinner shot .667 from downtown last year.

He has two career three-pointers, both last year, when he went 2-3.

That PHX offense was amazing.

F-Elton!

by mikey p on Aug 1, 2008 10:00 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

All depends how they use him

I like Skinner as the 11th or 12th man on a team with healthy starters. If he’s here because he’s better defensive insurance against a Marcus Camby injury than Powell (and much better than Tim Thomas), signing him makes sense. Based on their stats per 36 minutes, Skinner looks like a clear upgrade over Powell:

Skinner – 10.2 Rebounds, 3.3 Blocks, 0.9 Steals, 9.3 Points on 8.4 Attempts
Powell – 9.7 RB, 0.7 BKS, 0.4 ST, 10.4 PTS on 9.2 FGA

But if Skinner and TT soak up all the 2nd team minutes behind Camby and Kaman, then I don’t like this signing. Compare Fazekas and Paul Davis per 36 minutes:

Fazekas – 11.9 Rebounds, 1.5 Blocks, 1.1 Steals, 14.3 Points on 10.7 Attempts
P. Davis – 8.7 RB, 1.1 BKS, 1.1 ST, 10.0 PTS on 12.1 FGA

Except for blocks, Fazekas was better than Skinner in all categories. Davis wasn’t far behind, and I suspect he would have finished with better numbers had he not been injured. His shooting and overall performance were much better in the seven games just before his injury (when he played regular minutes). Throw in Jordan, and the Clips need to find out what their young bigs can do with some PT this year.

by ClipCat on Aug 1, 2008 12:31 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

My hope

The 5 rotation is:
Kaman/Camby/Fazekas
32mpg/8mpg/8mpg

The 4 rotation is:
Camby/Skinner/Thomas,Thornton
24mpg/15mps/9mpg

Something like that. But I definitely fear we will see more Thomas and less Fazekas.

Get me BD and 75 and I'm in

by John R on Aug 1, 2008 12:57 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

That seems realistic, but I'd prefer

not to see much of Skinner unless Camby is hurt or in foul trouble. Camby and Skinner should never be on the floor at the same time either.

I’d like to see Fazekas and Davis get about 15 minutes a game even if they have to share one spot in the rotatioin (Fazekas one night, Davis the next). That would give them a sink or swim chance to show what they can do. If they don’t impress, at least Skinner will be fresh for the later part of the season. And hopefully Jordan will be a D-League star by then, too.

I recognize there’s a good chance Davis won’t even be on the team, but that would really be a shame. Even if he hasn’t fully recovered from his injury, there should be a spot on the 15 man roster for a big man with his skills.

by ClipCat on Aug 1, 2008 2:38 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

I gotta say

I will never understand the love for Paul Davis. He’s a big who shoots 37%. 10pts on 12FGA is awful for someone around the basket.

Brian Skinner is definitively better than Paul Davis.

He isn’t definitively better than Fazekas. But I would definitely like to see Fazekas’ minutes increase only slowly. He has to prove he isn’t a 9 minute wonder. Which isn’t a bad thing since thats all the Clippers need.

Get me BD and 75 and I'm in

by John R on Aug 1, 2008 2:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I missed it with Davis, too

All I ever saw him do was catch a pass and shoot turnaround, fadeaways, or grab a rebound and immediately go back up with it. He seems pretty athletic, and he was a winner in college, but I was never impressed with his play as a Clipper.

His girlfriend, I was impressed with.

F-Elton!

by mikey p on Aug 1, 2008 3:06 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Skinner

I live in PHX, and saw Skinner at the grocery store last year…..it took me a while to figure out who he was as we’ were walking in, then he turned and I realized who the tall guy was…..he is only 6’9 or so.

He has aged since his younger more explosive years and didn’t get much run last year in PHX. He is what he is, a solid defender/shot blocker and ok rebounder. He does run the floor reasonably well- but he is not really tall enough to be considered a C, even though he has masqueraded as one during his career.

I say Powell may never get past his “potential”, so the Clippers must have decided this was better for the short term run and also more flexible in the near future as they have set up the team to make a big push in 2 years if nothing great has happened with the new Generic Clippers by then.

For the minimum, I say Skinner is a decent pick as he will be a good locker room guy, and dependable back up should one of the main rotation big men get hurt.

by tha MaDD Sientist on Aug 1, 2008 5:21 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Fazekas qualifing Offer withdrawn

http://www.nba.com/clippers/news/fazekas_080801.html

What could the Clips be possibly up to now? Fazekas is young, talented, with a lot of potential. Surely they couldn’t be going after Francisco Elson could they? I just can’t figure out this team.

I love LAC.

by oasisman on Aug 1, 2008 7:20 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Very Disappointing Move

We won’t get another player at minimum salary that’s nearly as good as Fazekas. This just doesn’t make sense to me.

by ClipCat on Aug 1, 2008 8:04 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Bear in mind

Just because the withdrew the QO, does not necessarily mean he won’t be a Clipper. They probably think they can keep him for less than the QO, but they definitely risk losing him. It may also be that they think they can do something better with the roster spot, but that remains to be seen.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by ClipperSteve on Aug 1, 2008 8:33 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

don't quite understand

the nature of a qualifying offer (QO) to minimum salary type guys like Fazekas. The Clippers had the right to match any offer for Fazekas, bit also seemed to be able to withdraw their QO before Fazekas accepted. That doesn’t seem fair, and doesn’t seem to be the same as QOs to more expensive restricted free agents, which are one-year tenders that occasionally are accepted.

You would think the min-level guys would jump at the security of being employed for a whole year—but maybe they don’t because theirs QOs aren’t guaranteed? So if they signed, they could still be cut?

by Clipper Oz on Aug 1, 2008 8:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

agreed...extremely disappointing

Not sure what the Clippers are doing with their roster the last two weeks. Ricky Davis, I can almost live with, but the Skinner signing is inexplicable to me and now this…we might just as well have kept Aaron Williams. If we’re letting Fazekas go with the thought that Skinner will replace him, then it’s a very short sighted move. I have a sinking feeling that the front office is making moves just to make moves at this point. Maybe Sterling blew a top after the Brand betrayal and is threatening to fire everyone in sight unless they get busy and improve the team…that would explain our ever changing roster…Lets see what transpires over the next week or so.

by MichaelCage on Aug 1, 2008 9:22 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Press release says

that the Clips AND Fazekas have agreed to the withdrawl of the QO. Since the agreement was mutual, does this mean there is some impending deal in the works? The wording is pretty curious in this instance…
Either way, we are talking about the 10th or 11th man on the bench. Lets relax people…it’s like all of a sudden everyone is turning into the W’s fans with their HUGE man crush on Azu….Faz is a nice player and all, but is not going to be a star, and he is a career backup at best. The Clips may well have another player targeted at the vets min….if your biggest complaint about this offseason is that they did NOT keep Fazekas, then I would have to say that the Clips have had one hell of an offseason…and this is the least of my worries…keep doing what you are doing MDsr!!

by Clip Show on Aug 1, 2008 9:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I liked Fazekas

but I’m not going to be heart broken if he is gone. He had a couple a of good performances but keep in mind when he was playing almost everyone on the team was injured in someway. I think that this moves may be a precursor to some sort of signing of another vet which would be good. But either way it is not like we are talking about starters or even 2nd string players, we are talking about 3rd string guys who will be lucky to play 7 min on our team if we are healthy.

by bestclipfan on Aug 1, 2008 10:06 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs


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