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Clippers vs. Phoenix - Game Preview and Open Thread

Phoenix Suns at Los Angeles Clippers, Jan 11, 2009 12:30 PM PST


2008/2009 NBA Regular Season

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vs.
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Staples Center
January 11th, 2009, 12:30 PM
KTLA Channel 5, 710 AM
Probable starters:
Mardy Collins
PG Steve Nash
Eric Gordon
SG Jason Richardson
Al Thornton
SF Grant Hill
Brian Skinner
PF Amare Stoudemire
Marcus Camby
C Shaquille O'Neal

 

The Back Story:

  • January 2, 2009 in Phoenix:  Phoenix 106 - Clippers 98  Box Score  Recap

The Big Picture:

Ten losses in a row and counting.  During the first half of last night's game, which I listened to on the radio, I heard a commercial for a credit union that was offering new accounts with no fee if the Clippers won the game.  Now, when you run a promotion like that, you're obviously just trying to give the impression of a prize - most NBA teams don't go more than a week without winning a game, so it's pretty obvious that they WANT new customers to come on in after a Clippers win.  Too bad.  Hasn't happened since Dec. 19, and not likely to happen in this game.  Incidentally, the disaster that was last season, the team's longest losing streak was 10 games - if they lose this game, it will be their longest losing streak since they lost 13 straight in the spring of 2004, with Doug Overton running the point.  Ah, the old days.

The Antagonist:

The Suns are 7-3 since Jason Richardson joined the team from Charlotte with the three losses being a 5 point loss at Portland against Brandon Roy's career high 52, and buzzer beaters losses to the Spurs and Pacers.  In other words, they haven't really played a bad game since the trade.  And judging from their dismantling of Dallas in the second half on Friday, they're playing better now than they have at any point of the season.  The starting five is impressive in the extreme, even if Nash and O'Neal and Hill are starting to show their ages.  The bench remains suspect - only Leandro Barbosa and Matt Barnes have NBA experience to speak of - but the starters may be good enough to overcome that perceived problem.  In talking to Suns fans, the big difference is that the team is having fun playing basketball.  I wonder what that's like?

The Subplots:

  • ClipperSteve is everywhere.  Prior to the Jan. 2nd meeting, while I was still on vacation, I appeared on a podcast put out by Phoenix Stan from Bright Side of the Sun - a few of you were intrepid enough to find it out there.  We did another one together this morning.  What's interesting is, although the ostensible reason for doing them is the meeting between out two teams, we basically have ignored the games completely - with the current state of the Clippers, we both tend to agree that the outcome is a foregone conclusion.  It doesn't keep us from holding forth on a range of NBA topics.  If you think you might enjoy listening to ClipperSteve blather on as much as I do, and you've got some time on your hands (or if you need some background noise for another activity), give a listen.  I also did a Q&A with Ben's Suns Blog - his answers to my questions are posted here, my answers to his questions will be over there.
  • Zone of destruction.  OK, so the Spurs and Hornets are two teams fully capable of destroying a matchup zone.  Guess what?  So are the Suns.  They don't have the three point shooting they once had, but they have Steve Nash to break things down, good spacing, and savvy vets.  If Amare finds the hole at the free throw line, he and Shaq will feast on the interior of the zone in the high-low game.  In short, foul trouble and other issues be damned - don't play the zone in this one.  It will be a complete disaster. 
  • Ones and fours.  The all star barrage continues.  Kidd/Nowitzki, Parker/Duncan, Paul/West.  Now it's time to see how Collins/Skinner matches up with Nash/Stoudemire.  If you're not a citizen of ClipsNation, you may not have heard of the Collins/Skinner combination, but there's a good reason for that.  It's because they're not very good.
  • Injury update.  There's precious little new information available on the injured Clippers.  They're calling Baron Davis and Zach Randolph day-to-day, but there's no indication that this will be the day.  Ricky Davis is serving the last game of his suspension, but that doesn't necessarily mean he'll play against Atlanta on Wednesday, since he's barely practiced with the team in 6 weeks.  Kaman is the most nebulous of all - there's just no news at all on him.  I don't expect to see him until February, but I have no basis for that.  Just a feeling.  UPDATE:  Looks like it was an accurate hunch.  Lisa Dillman put a story up on the Times about the time I finished this post - MDsr is saying not to expect Kaman until after the All Star Break.  Sheesh.
  • All Star for one night.  Given that the rules of this game require the choice to be someone unexpected and less well-known, there aren't many options on the Suns.  Their starters are all stars, former all stars and near all stars.  Their sixth man has been NBA sixth man of the year.  And they basically play 8 guys.  So that leaves Matt Barnes or Louis Amundson as the viable options.  I'm picking Amundson.  Why, you ask?  Because he has a pony tail.  That's why.
  • Get the Suns perspective at Bright Side of the Sun.

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Nervous

It’s not even game day, and I’m already nervous about this contest !

by Natedog1977 on Jan 10, 2009 8:47 PM PST reply actions  

New Year's podcast

I thoroughly enjoyed the previous podcast. It was great to hear the “VOICE” behind the Clips Nation. Hearing the events behind ClipperSteve becoming a Clipper’s fan absolutely caught my attention. IMHO, it doesn’t take much effort, nor incredible intelligence to support a team that does very well over time. I much prefer supporting one team, Clippers (underdogs), and continue having perpetual hope. It is especially exciting to have the “weaker” team rise up and play well, and/or defeat the “superior” team.

I admire San Antonio because they are indeed the best franchise in professional sports. I admire Tim Duncan’s brilliance and his lack of “chest pounding”. He is class.

How about more podcasts from ClipperSteve when it’s not a Clipper/Suns game?

by soccerdance15 on Jan 10, 2009 10:51 PM PST reply actions  

Oh Geez.....

Down 12-0….. what a great way to start my week !!

by Natedog1977 on Jan 11, 2009 12:47 PM PST reply actions  

Dont trip

12-2 run here we go clipper!!!

by gsr2000 on Jan 11, 2009 12:54 PM PST reply actions  

Gordon

First time I’ve wanted Dunleavy to yank him all year. His 3 bad turnovers in a row were a total lack of concentration and effort. Luckily Camby was able to get the momentum back in the Clips favor.

by ghost_ride on Jan 11, 2009 12:55 PM PST reply actions  

51%FG at HT!!

"Duck, Crab. Crab, Duck"
Roger Sterling - Mad Men

by Lawler's Law on Jan 11, 2009 1:53 PM PST reply actions  

gotta start the 3rd in the right foot!

"Duck, Crab. Crab, Duck"
Roger Sterling - Mad Men

by Lawler's Law on Jan 11, 2009 1:54 PM PST reply actions  

Nash Defensive Player of the game!

"Duck, Crab. Crab, Duck"
Roger Sterling - Mad Men

by Lawler's Law on Jan 11, 2009 2:01 PM PST reply actions  

Nash Defensive Player of the game!

"Duck, Crab. Crab, Duck"
Roger Sterling - Mad Men

by Lawler's Law on Jan 11, 2009 2:01 PM PST reply actions  

Collins couldn't look to see where nash was?

"Duck, Crab. Crab, Duck"
Roger Sterling - Mad Men

by Lawler's Law on Jan 11, 2009 2:02 PM PST reply actions  

we're getting every opportunity to catch up!

"Duck, Crab. Crab, Duck"
Roger Sterling - Mad Men

by Lawler's Law on Jan 11, 2009 2:06 PM PST reply actions  

nash! 4th charge call!

"Duck, Crab. Crab, Duck"
Roger Sterling - Mad Men

by Lawler's Law on Jan 11, 2009 2:14 PM PST reply actions  

Chant

LET"S GO CLIPPERS LETS GO……(clap clap)

by Natedog1977 on Jan 11, 2009 2:33 PM PST reply actions  

I knew

It was only a matter of time until Phoenix went bang bang, thanks for coming, game over!

by Natedog1977 on Jan 11, 2009 2:52 PM PST reply actions  

Pass

is not in Al Thornton’s vocabulary. I think it could a 5-1 break and he wouldn’t give it up. The Suns have been playing him for the charge all game and he’s been happy to oblige.

by blowbyability on Jan 11, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

AT

Did he get 3 charge calls against him this game?

Was he trying to be aggresive and take the ball to the rim?

Is he blind?

by Natedog1977 on Jan 11, 2009 3:08 PM PST reply actions  

nope…4 of them! 2 by Nash, one by Hill and not sure who the 4th one was…i’m starting to question his IQ…

yup

no…he just puts his head down on his drives…very frustrating

"Duck, Crab. Crab, Duck"
Roger Sterling - Mad Men

by Lawler's Law on Jan 11, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

are we the team with the most 12:30 tipoffs?

"Duck, Crab. Crab, Duck"
Roger Sterling - Mad Men

by Lawler's Law on Jan 11, 2009 3:14 PM PST reply actions  

Toronto has a bunch...

But we probably lead the league. Two factors – three tenants in Staples Center, plus no NFL team in LA. NBA teams aren’t going to schedule many Sunday 12:30 tips if they have an football team in town.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 11, 2009 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

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