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Clippers vs. Atlanta - Game Preview and Open Thread

Atlanta @ Los Angeles Clippers


2008/2009 NBA Regular Season

Lac1_70_medium
vs.
 
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Staples Center
January 14th, 2009, 7:30 PM
FSN Prime Ticket, 710 AM
Probable starters:
Mardy Collins
PG Mike Bibby
Eric Gordon
SG Joe Johnson
Al Thornton
SF Marvin Williams
Brian Skinner
PF Josh Smith
Marcus Camby
C Zaza Pachulia

 

The Back Story:

  • First meeting of the season.

The Big Picture:

Eleven losses in a row at this point.  But for some reason, I am allowing myself a sliver of hope that the losing streak could end tonight.  I'm not sure why that should be.  I mean, the Hawks have the fifth best record in the East, and the Clippers have been without much of their team since before the holidays.  There's no real indication that any of the missing players will be back, although we can hope for that as well.  Ricky Davis is eligible to be on the court, and he'll probably be in uniform at least.  But after 6 weeks off, he's unlikely to be ready for extended minutes, and let's face it - he wasn't helping a lot when he was playing.  Besides, shooting guard isn't really the problem right now, though it would be nice if he could provide some decent minutes at the three.  As far as I know, neither Zach Randolph nor Baron Davis are planning to play in this game, but the current state of their recoveries is nebulous - a brief preview for this game, Lisa Dillman implies neither will play today, saying Baron will likely be back before Z-Bo, but that would be 'next week' at the earliest.  But the team has played well enough to win some games lately, and just couldn't hang on at the end.  LA is rested, Atlanta lost last night in Phoenix.  I just think the Clippers can win this one.

The Antagonist:

The Hawks stated the season 6-0 - they were the next to the last unbeaten, only the Lakers taking longer to drop a game.  But they come into LA tonight on their own four game losing streak, and they're 16-15 since that hot start.  Of course, that's still a lot better than the 8-29 Clippers on an 11 game losing streak.  Atlanta has one key injury of their own - Al Horford has missed a few games with a bruised heel and is not on this trip.  Of course, Zaza Pachulia tends to play very well against the Clippers, so it may not hurt the Hawks too much.  In fact, there's a host of Clipper killers on the Hawks - Mike Bibby always lit up LA when he was with the Kings (and even before that when he was with Vancouver); Joe Johnson made 7 of 8 threes the last time the teams played.  There's talent on this roster, no doubt.  Unfortunately for the Hawks, while they were a playoff team last season and will be a playoff team this season, and they're still pretty young, the future is nonetheless partially cloudy.  Mike Bibby is in the final year of his contract, and it's far from clear that they'll want him back, with Joe Johnson and now Josh Smith already on monster contracts.  The next off-season JJ becomes a free agent.

The Subplots:

  • AT versus the ATL?  Al Thornton is from Perry, Georgia.  As a rookie, in his first meeting with his home state Hawks, Thornton carried a severely depleted Clipper team to a 95-88 victory behind a then career-high 33 points in 33 minutes.  That was Al's 'snub' game - the first game after he had learned that he would not be on the Rookie team at All Star Weekend.  He may have to have a similar outburst if the Clippers are to have a chance in this one.
  • Joe Johnson from anywhere in the building.  I still remember Joe Johnson pulling up for a jump shot from literally 40 feet in the second meeting last season.  It wasn't a case of "Oops, the shot clock is running down, the ball got kicked out near mid court, now I have to shoot this crazy shot."  He was making everything he shot (as I mentioned, he finished 7 for 8 on his three pointers that night) and on one possession, he calmly dribbled across mid court, and pulled up standing on the wing of the Hawk adorning center court.  It was the heat check to end all heat checks - and he made it.  
  • Josh Smith - not a Clipper.  When Elton Brand suddenly left town this summer, the Clippers considered making an offer to Josh Smith, one of the only options on the market.  But Smith was restricted, meaning Atlanta could match any offer, and is not really a power forward.  Indeed, Memphis eventually signed Smith to an offer sheet for 5/$58M, which the Hawks matched, keeping him in Atlanta.  His rebounding, never great for a 4, is down from 8.6 per game two seasons ago to 6.7 this season, and his scoring has also dipped a couple of points.  I'm guessing the Clippers are happy with Marcus Camby.
  • A new stat to track.  With two technical fouls in the last game, MDsr now has 9 T's on the season.  The team has 8 wins.  So the question is, by the end of the season, will the Clippers have more wins than Dunleavy has technical fouls? 
  • Injury update.  Kaman is done until at least the All Star Break because his foot got caught in a time warp.  Ricky Davis has finished serving his suspension, and is by definition healthy enough to play, as the league requires him to serve his suspension while healthy.  Mike Taylor is of course still out.  I have no idea on Randolph and Baron.
  • Flip Murray.  Remember last spring when the Clippers waived Sam Cassell?  For about a day, we thought they were going to sign Flip Murray to take Sam's roster spot, but he reneged and signed with Indiana and the Clippers signed Andre Barrett instead.  Flip's now on the Hawks, and playing 20 minutes a game.
  • All Star for one night.  Let's go with Zaza.  I mean, why not?  It's just fun to write it.  Zaza!  ZAZA! 
  • Get the Hawks perspective at Peachtree Hoops.

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Kevin Willis will come back

and drop 15 pts, 26 rebs and 4 blocks

by Qlippers on Jan 14, 2009 9:31 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Line: ATL by 4

If I were a betting man, I’d take the Clippers here, maybe even to win outright. It seems that our last two efforts at home have been good enough to win this matchup, especially considering the Hawks are going back to back.

by ghost_ride on Jan 14, 2009 12:19 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good thing you weren't betting man

or you would’ve been broke already by going with the Clippers this season…

I still can’t believe we only have 8 wins.

by cliptakular on Jan 14, 2009 4:24 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seriously

But don’t think I’d be betting “on” the Clippers every time. There’ve been plenty of games, especially early on that I would’ve bet against us.

Maybe i’ll try to keep track from here on out, start with tonight taking the Clips w/ the 4 points.

by ghost_ride on Jan 14, 2009 4:46 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Only 4?

Surprising. I’m not sure I’d take that bet, but it does show that at least a few people think the Clippers have a chance.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 14, 2009 12:37 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

looking in the hawks blog

i found a post on acie law not being used, if he is not getting playing time in atlanta, wouldn’t it be interesting to try and make a deal for him, what do you guys think about trying to trade for law??

by XXDC2XX on Jan 14, 2009 6:51 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lot of PG's available in the Draft

Might as well wait until then to address the position if they really want to. Also, would think they want to give Mike Taylor every opportunity to prove his meddle once he’s healthy.

by ghost_ride on Jan 14, 2009 7:20 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OKC Beats Utah?

Clippers manage 12 points in the first quarter.

by ghost_ride on Jan 14, 2009 8:09 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

damn

this is a low scoring game

by highriser on Jan 14, 2009 8:10 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Atlanta Hawks – L.A. Clippers

Live

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by milleniumprince on Jan 14, 2009 8:16 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Spurs Lakers

anyone saw the lakers spurs?

crazy ending

by cliptakular on Jan 14, 2009 8:39 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Injuries

Injury bug?

I’m starting to think that these “injuries” are not really injuries. That these players that are “injured” could still play.

I’m starting to think that these guys just looks for every excuse possible to just to say that they are “injured” (no matter how minor it might be) so they won’t have to play.

Come on, no team can have this many injuries.

LOL… how did Jason Hart get injured? Elbow injury? Give me a break, sure he has an injury but its probably just a minor nuissance. Kobe needs a f-kng surgery for God’s sake and he hasn’t sat out a single game all season.

by cliptakular on Jan 14, 2009 8:47 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Many factors

If you’re Baron Davis or Zach Randolph, making $13M to $15M with at least 3 years guaranteed, you are in no hurry to get back on the court for an 8 win team. This is not rocket science, and it’s justifiable if indeed there’s any chance of reinjury. We don’t know enough on that to judge one way or the other. It is obvious that they’d be back sooner if the team were in playoff contention.

If you’re Jason Hart, been bouncing around the league for 7 years, in the final year of your contract, 30 years old there’s NO WAY you’re sitting out for a minor nuisance. Think about it. This is it for Hart – he’s out of the league next year if he doesn’t do SOMETHING this season. He parlayed a decent stint in the final 6 weeks of the season with the Clippers two seasons ago into a guaranteed contract – but no one is going to sign him again unless he does something more than 27% shooting he’s put up so far.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 15, 2009 10:55 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

didn’t know this was jason’s contract year. i hope we don’t sign him back.

http://clippers.topbuzz.com/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-2698.html

by cliptakular on Jan 15, 2009 3:15 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

6 Words

This team (franchise?) has no heart.

by cliptakular on Jan 14, 2009 8:49 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Content

Most of them are probably content earning millions by sitting on the damn bench. Especially Kaman.

Just like you said ClipperSteve, how the heck is it possible that this guy’s return date gets delayed and postponed every 2 weeks it seems?

Wait…

Duh! Space Time Anomaly! Lol

Camby is the only guy that has heart in this team. As much as I’d hate it, I’d rather trade the guy to another team because I really do feel bad for him.

by cliptakular on Jan 14, 2009 8:58 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ClipperSteve

I dunno how you can keep writing Clipper blogs man. I know those loses keep piling up and writing these blogs gets harder and harder. And you do a pregame AND a postgame blog.

Mad kudos to you.

by cliptakular on Jan 14, 2009 9:03 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

over-under on the attendance for this game?

"Duck, Crab. Crab, Duck"
Roger Sterling - Mad Men

by Lawler's Law on Jan 14, 2009 9:14 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I went to the game

I’ve never seen it as bad as tonight and I’ve been to some bad monday night games. I saw 4th row center court on stubhub for $45. Lower level was 1/3 full if that. Besides the ‘Fire Dunleavy’ and Clipper D’s shouts, it was like a library.

I’d guess actual attendence was about 6-8k.

by FireDunleavy.com on Jan 14, 2009 10:38 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

at least al thornton had a nice poster on solomon jones

by andrewexd on Jan 14, 2009 10:52 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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