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Suns 106 - Clippers 98

I wrote in a post before this game that the Clippers might have a shot if Shaq didn’t play.  Well, he did, and BD didn’t.   For the record, the Clippers were without three starters, BD, Randolph and Kaman, as well as three bench players, Ricky “Blunt” Davis and Mike Taylor.  Thus, the outcome of this game, the Clippers’ sixth loss in a row, was predetermined.

The Suns blew out the Clips in the first quarter, up by 18 right out of the gate.  Amare was a man among boys.  The Suns ran their offense through Shaq at times, and Grant Hill hit a couple of threes on kickouts.  Somehow, the Clippers won quarters 2, 3 and 4.  That, however, is a somewhat misleading stat because it was clear which was the better team. 

The Suns looked good for the most part, but it seemed they got bored and lost focus.  On the other hand, the 10 Clippers who did show up did play hard.  Having said that, the Clippers couldn’t stop the Suns – who shot 55% for the game.  The Clippers, on the other hand, shot 42%. 

The Suns were of course rather efficient.  They had 25 assists.  Nash played 3 quarters and had 11 assists, JRich with 15 points, Shaq with 17 and 9, Barbosa with 12, 5 and 4, Amare had 23 and 8.  Lou Ahmundson proved to be tonight’s unsung hero, bringing a lot of energy off the bench.  

A couple of thoughts about the Clipper offense.  Other than EJ and Novak running out around screens, there is very little movement by the guards from one side of the court to the other.  This offense is all about isos, which in my view discourages team play and asks individual players to do far too much.  Unless you have superstars or mismatches, offenses tend to work much better when everyone is involved.  I think that the team would do much better running a standard motion offense and the efforts of the players out there would be rewarded more often.  For the most part, the team expended far too much energy tonight trying to score. 

Someone mentioned Thornton’s inconsistency in a post in the past few days.  You could really see that tonight.  Sometimes he makes plays that leave you breathless, like when takes that first step to the hole or gets an offensive rebound put back high above the rim.  At other times, you just have to shake your head, like when he catches the ball at the beginning of the shot clock at the elbow and shoots a fade away, without setting his feet or allowing the team to get into its offense.  He also inexplicably can’t handle the basics at times, such as mishandling the receiving end of a simple pick and roll.  Tonight he was 5 – 18.  That’s not going to get it done.  Of course, he almost got decapitated in the third on a foul by Amare. 

Gordon looked good overall tonight, finishing with 21 points.  He wasn’t shy with his shots, and the Clippers ran some screens for him, which was a good thing to see.  On the other hand, he would sometimes force the action unnecessarily, trying to do too much.  It almost appeared like he was given the green light to do whatever he wanted, which may not be surprising given number of Clippers who were hurt.  I’m not sure that we want EJ shooting threes at the beginning of the shot clock with no one under the basket.  He did have a beautiful dunk off a cut at the end of the first half.  And his D against JRich improved as the game wore on. 

Camby was a stud tonight, as usual.  19 and 23.  He alone is worth the price of admission.  He brought his all tonight, as usual, and his effort appeared to be infectious. 

As oasisman pointed out in a recent post, MDSr found a good one in Fred Jones.  The veteran, who played 33 minutes tonight, finished with 16 points and 4 assists off 4 – 12 shooting. 

Mardy Collins, Novak and Skinner all brought good effort tonight.  Paul Davis didn’t play much, which says a lot about what MDSr thinks of him. 

All in all, the Clippers played about as well as could be expected given the hand they were dealt with and the type of offense they are being asked to run.  Not holding out much hope for Sunday’s game against the Pistons (and Stuckey, who scored 39 points tonight), particularly if BD is still out. 

CS - thanks for the opportunity to write a recap.  Enjoyed it. 

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Thanks for the recap...

…which was thoughtful and fair. Couldn’t see the game tonight on the East Coast. Camby continues to impress beyond all expectations.

Question: could you provide your definition of a “standard motion offense?” Feel free to suggest current or historical teams who have run it well. Thanks.

"Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted" – Albert Einstein

by Another son of Mike Smith on Jan 2, 2009 11:14 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

actu ally it wasnt even on tv here.

by andrewexd on Jan 2, 2009 11:27 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, not getting to see it makes it easier to take.

I don’t have a whole lot to say, except that its obvious that we’ve got two guys really trying out there in Camby and Gordon. I’m going to give Baron the benefit of the doubt here, but if this “1 week” injury turns into the rest of the season, I’m going to even more pissed off than usual.

I definitely see where you are coming from with Thornton. It’s no longer a good game/bad game thing for him, but a good play/bad play. This iso offense doesn’t cater well to a guy like him. If he moved more without the basketball, he would have a lot more open opportunites. Right now, the two main successful guys in the offense are Gordon, who has some great one on one capabilities, and Camby, who goes out and gets his. It’s hard to get guys in the offense who don’t have the skills to suceed in these situations. Eveybody keeps talking about how talented this team is, and even with the ridiculous amount of injuries, I think that the reason that it’s not being showcased is because the offense doesn’t allow for the players within it to do different things. It relies on isolation skills that very few players in this league are extremely good at (it goes without saying that none of these guys like Kobe, McGrady, etc. are on the Clippers). Talent is nothing if it isn’t used correctly.

I’m really sensing a curse with this whole injury thing. I’m not sure who to blame it on, though, since this team has had not reached a finals from Buffalo to Los Angeles.

by WestsideBrandon on Jan 2, 2009 11:43 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed

That they played about as well could be expected given the circumstances. Still, when Camby is your leading scorer for most of the game, you know you’re struggling…and if they hadn’t battled back late in the 4th quarter, this could have easily been a 30 point loss. This team is rolling on dubs right now…i’m already looking forward to the draft.

by ghost_ride on Jan 3, 2009 12:03 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thornton

Kevin at Clipperblog pointed out that maybe Thornton’s inconsistencies were who he is as a player and there’s nothing to change that. Jax is right, sometimes he’s Lebron, the next game he’s D Miles. As a side thought, maybe it wasn’t all an accident he dropped to #14 in the draft. Ironically, he’s a MDSr player…he thrives in Isolation mismatches where he can use his speed to get by defenders and not have to think about passing or even catching the ball. Unfortunately, the NBA isn’t And1, so that doesn’t cut it. Maybe not focusing on BBall didn’t make him as well-rounded a player….or maybe it made him a better player, who knows.

I love LAC.

by oasisman on Jan 3, 2009 12:50 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good job, Jax

I was fortunate enough NOT to watch the game, but your recap gives me a good idea of what went down.

Coming into the season I figured AT was the Clippers star of the future, but I am going to say that EG is more likely to be “the guy” around here, at least until Al pulls his head out. Hopefully, they become a solid pair at the wings. Jordan/Pippen, no, but maybe something like Allen and Pierce in Boston.

F-Elton!

by mikey p on Jan 3, 2009 7:28 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, if what you are taking from the recap is that the game wasn't interesting, that's wrong.

It was. The Clippers did show effort. I can watch a game where the teams show effort. For whatever reason (probably a combination of the injuries and the offense), that effort didn’t translate into points. And their defense could not stop the Suns.

by Jax on Jan 3, 2009 9:42 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah i thought it was a good game minus the 1st quarter. eveyrone came out and played hard for once.

by andrewexd on Jan 3, 2009 9:46 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fred jones is a beast..

does dunleavy not like paul davis or as i like to call him p-diddy?

by baronycamby on Jan 3, 2009 11:03 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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