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Will Any Papers be Covering the Clippers by the End of the Season?

When I noticed that the Daily News/Press Telegram ran an AP recap on a HOME GAME for the Clippers, I thought that it was possible that new Clippers beat reporter Ramona Shelburne had taken the long weekend off.  Turns out, the Clippers win over the Bucks on Saturday was reported in the Daily News via the AP as well.  And then I saw the really bad news - our beloved pest wasn't on vacation on MLK day.  In fact, she was working at Staples Center - filing a column on Kobe and the Lakers

Now, I have no idea if this is a permanent re-assignment or just a one-off.  Lakers-Cavs, Kobe-LeBron - it's a big story, and it's possible that the Daily News opted to put another NBA reporter on just this one game, and used the AP gamer to backfill.  But it certainly doesn't bode well for local coverage of the Clippers.  Partly driven by the dire economics in the newspaper business, Clipper coverage has been declining steadily in recent years.  And the re-assignment of Clipper beat reporters to supplement the teams of reporters covering the Lakers for the same paper is particularly distressing.  The dean of Clipper beat reporters, Art Thompson III, was put on the Lakers beat when the Orange County Register completely discontinued their Clipper coverage at the end of last season.  And of course none of the papers have been sending scribes on the road since early this season, nor the second half of last season.  As of now, Los Angeles newspaper readers are limited to the LA Times for local coverage of home games, and for road games it's strictly wire copy for LA's Clipper fans trying to follow the team on dead trees. 

The shame is that Ramona Shelburne has been doing a terrific job covering the Clippers, particularly on her blog.  She was out in front on the Zach Randolph trade, and has provided terrific insights into the Clippers' front office and locker room all season.  But it's hard to miss the fact that new posts to her blog have been fewer and further between in the last month - and there hasn't been a single one in 6 days, despite the fact that the Clippers have been in town and practicing at Playa Vista.  It's clear that newspapers need to put their resources on the topics that interest their readership - if the Clippers don't qualify as one of those interesting topics, if they don't warrant a beat reporter, there's nothing much to be done about it.  But access to information about the Clippers just got more difficult to come by.  For instance, where are the injury updates going to come from?

It's an interesting confluence of media news today, as one of the local beat reporters was apparently re-assigned on the same day that ClipperBlog officially joined the nascent ESPN TrueHoop blogger network.  The trend would seem to be one of bloggers supplementing, though hopefully not supplanting, newspaper beat reporters.  Clips Nation sends best wishes to Kevin at ClipperBlog in his new capacity as the editor of the TrueHoop network; it bodes well for Clipper coverage from the blogosphere at least.  I'm a big believer in the concept that a high blogotide will raise all blogoboats, so there's little question in my mind that ESPN's support of ClipperBlog is good news for Clips Nation; assuming Clips Nation falls into the category of 'good blog', more visibility for good blogs is all positive.

Fingers crossed that Ramona the pest will continue blogging on and covering the Clippers as well but I'm not optimistic on that front.

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I could see bloggers replacing sports writers

they work for free, they are dedicated and many are just as good if not better then other sports writers. This may just be one sign of what is to come.

by bestclipfan on Jan 20, 2009 2:34 PM PST reply actions  

Not in 2009

I would guess that few of the best ones are working for completely free right now. Which is actually supportive of your point when you think about it.

Its not just sports either. The shine is off the papers and they don’t have the sole power to anoint who is and isn’t a news maker anymore.

Ah, but sports is a unique sort of “news”, isn’t it? Now that these blogs are ESPN, and therefore NBA approved, does this close the book on access for other bloggers? That would be a darn shame. It seems its been hard to come by in the first place. Is this a move to give the appearance of opening things, while actually closing them for good?

Get me BD and 75 and I'm in

by John R on Jan 20, 2009 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

The ESPN effect

It will be interesting to see how this impacts basketball blogging. Henry and TrueHoop have a lot of influence, and ESPN has a lot of visibility and access. I hope that it doesn’t create two classes of bloggers – those affiliated with ESPN and those not. I don’t think it will, but we’ll see.

It’s worth noting that many top SBNation basketball blogs were recruited by TrueHoop and chose to stay with SBNation. So they felt like there were alternatives to the Worldwide Leader.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 20, 2009 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I was wondering why I saw a goodbye post to SB Nation by the Pickaxe and Roll blogger….

http://www.pickaxeandroll.com/2009/1/2/707120/thank-you-sb-nation-and-al

He created a new blog that got picked up by the THN…

"Duck, Crab. Crab, Duck"
Roger Sterling - Mad Men

by Lawler's Law on Jan 20, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah...

Jeremy from the Nuggets blog and Hoopinion from the Hawks blog were the defections…. Good blogs. And TrueHoop got some big fish like Forum B&G and Knickerblogger.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 20, 2009 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I've noticed the same

I check Ramona’s blog regularly and have definitely noticed the decline in updates. First I attributed it to the holidays, but I’m thinking there’s just no interest on the topic around the city. I mean, I’m a hardcore fan, but there’s just nothing more to be said about this season. We’ve been riddled with injuries, our coach is horrible and the team has no chemistry…blah blah blah.

The Clips always should have moved to Orange County. It’s hard enough for any city to support two basketball teams, let alone in a situation like this, where one team is essentially the darling of the NBA and the other is the league’s bastard child.

Of course it would be easier if the Clips just stopped being so bad every single year.

by madglove on Jan 20, 2009 3:52 PM PST reply actions  

woulld probably get less press in Orange County

OC doesn’t cover the clippers and then we lose the coverage we get just by being in a huge media center like LA.

by bestclipfan on Jan 21, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmmmm

I think you buried the lede on this one. The Ramona thing (has it been determined that she’s okay with us calling her the Pest? I’m happy to do it, but I’m not sure how it’s different from calling Kaman the Kaveman) is a potential bummer, but as you say it’s par for the course. The Pest was a piece of unexpected great news, actually, after the AT3 deal went down. This doesn’t seem to be big news, however, although it will affect us enthusiasts.

But the Kevin Arnovitz to True Hoop “Network” is a pretty big deal. And I agree, and think it will be good for the Clippers too. It’s a big step forward in new media, even if there’s something of an “eclipse” in fishwrap media. Unless I’m mistaken, KA has left his job at Marketplace (NPR) to go to work for ESPN. So, unlikely as it sounds, we have a Clipper Fan running the whole show. I was a bit curious about the uptick in KA’s efforts recently, not just him minding the store for HAbbott, but posting regularly, updating his site a bit, doing some morning roundups, and now we know why. He’s an excellent analyst, fair and thoughtful, and he knows his basketball, and now he’ll have more time to write about hoops and the Clips.

So I second the best wishes and congrats and would even recommend that our fearless leader CS might look for a way to flip the story here—I’d be curious to see the in-depth CS analysis of Clipperblog and its evolution, and the current state of the rising blogotide. More fun than working on the preview for the Laker game, I would imagine.

by citizen zhiv on Jan 20, 2009 5:36 PM PST reply actions  

I did bury the lede..

I was going to do a different post on the TrueHoop thing… and then I thought there was a connection with the Daily News thing… and then I just got really tired of the whole thing and hit publish on a relatively weak post. That’s my bad. Not my best work.

KA’s been working for ESPN for awhile now… we started seeing the ‘special correspondent’ or whatever byline in pre-season. I’m not sure when he left Marketplace exactly, but he works for ESPN now. It’s a good thing. He definitely has had a renaissance on CB this season – the Marketplace gig wasn’t very conducive to NBA blogging it would seem. The ESPN gig, understandably, is more so.

I’m not sure I’m down for the in depth analysis piece. Or rather, I guess I don’t really think I have a lot to say about it. I love Kevin’s work – always have. But he’s not me. And at any rate, if I write something and it comes off ultra positive, then it seems like I’m sucking up to him. If I write something and come off too critical, then I risk damaging a relationship for no real reason.

Maybe there will be a development worth analyzing as he moves forward with TrueHoop.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 20, 2009 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

is the pest a reference to the beverly clearly book ?

by andrewexd on Jan 20, 2009 5:55 PM PST reply actions  

Yes...

Beverly Clearly is ClipperZoe’s absolute favorite. Beezus and Ramona is her favorite book, but Ramona the Pest is one of the best known, and I immediately wanted to refer to Shelburne as the pest.

To Zhiv’s question, I’m hopeful that she is in no way offended by it. And unlike the Kaveman thing, I do have a justification for calling her the pest, at least in my mind. When she was soliciting questions on her blog and tracking down answers, I envisioned her ‘pestering’ MDsr and Neil Olshey and Rob Raichlin with all of her questions. So she was a ‘pest’ to them in a way that benefited Clipper fans directly. That was my thinking, at any rate.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 20, 2009 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

The death spiral of newspapers...

Its sad to see local newspapers cut back on their staff and reporters as they lose readership and advertising revenues. The irony is that the few loyal readers they have left will slowy abandon traditional newspapers as the quality of their articles decline. As they rely more and more on AP wire reports, readers will continue to shrink, and this will draw in less advertisers and spur another round of job cuts.

For the Clippers franchise, this void in local reporting will eventually cause long term damage to the team’s viability. In the old days, when the LA Times, the OC Register, or the Daily News report Clippers games, they might do so in a disparaging or mocking manner, but the reporters were there for the game, writing about another loss for the moribound franchise. Awareness of the team was at least established. But now, most local papers don’t even bother to send a single reporter to cover the Clippers, so for most of the citizens of Los Angeles, the team might not as well exist.

While we have young talents like Gordon and a venerable old warhorse like Camby, most of the city doesn’t even know who these guys are. There are intriuging stories there; the Heisler article about Camby in the LA Time on Sunday is one. It shows Camby in a new light; his earlier disappointment in being “traded” by Denver, his growing enthusiasm for the city, and his stubborn work ethic as the team disintegrates around him and the losses mount up. The article makes you appreciate Camby even more. Sadly, there’s other stories out there about guys like Novak that will probably never be told.

Yes, the fanatical basketball junkies will find their way to hoopshype and the few Clippers fans in this city who grew up watching Norm Nixon in the Sports Arena will gravitate to this site and KA’s blog. But the fact that local news organizations have abandoned their traditional role of reporting local sports teams, its players, their stories, and the community will mean that our interests will fracture ever deeper in the coming years. There will be less to bind us a local community and we will identify more with like-minded individuals who share our interests. That is not a healthy scenario.

by MichaelCage on Jan 20, 2009 6:00 PM PST reply actions  

The irony

The irony here is that ‘local’ and ‘sports’ are two things that are supposed to save newspapers. The beat reporter who is at the training facility day in and day out throughout the season is the one that can get the stories that people actually need a newspaper for. By relying on the AP wire story, the paper is admitting “We don’t add any value.”

Of course, the thing that skews all of this is the Laker-Clipper dynamic. Rest assured, the Commercial Appeal has not downsized their Grizzlies reporter. So there are two distinctly different factors at play here – newspapers are hurting, that goes without saying. And ALL of the LA papers (OCR’s parent Freedom, LAT’s parent Tribune, LADN’s parent thingamajig) are among the hardest hit. But there’s also the fact that it’s the Clippers and it’s LA. The readership can’t get enough of Kobe and Pau and Andrew and the Lakers – how is Kobe’s finger, what funny thing did Vujacic do, etc – but comparatively speaking, there’s just no interest in the Clippers.

Some day I’ll post on the idea of the ‘other’ team in LA. I actually think it’s brilliant from a business standpoint. But it’s almost completely untenable from an identity standpoint.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 20, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions  

The Lakers-Clippers dynamic

Understandably, as the economy declines, advertising revenue is harder to come by, and news organization is pressured to lead with more entertaining and sensational articles. It’s interesting to note that on most general portal websites today, hard news have been replaced by tabolid articles and TMZ-style celebrity gossip. In terms of the marketplace, there’s not many people who wants to read about the roots of the Indian-Pakistani conflict, but there’s apparent a shit load of people who can’t get enough of Brangelina.

Now reporting on a local professional sports team like the Clipers is not exactly like covering the latest Israeli attemt to crush Hamas, but it was once thought by the editors of our local papers that covering the local professional basketball team was part of their mandate, as wretched as that team might be. Once upon a time, the editors of our newspapers believe that it wasn’t their duty to give their readers exactly what they want, but to give them articles that they might not know they want, but was of importance to them. It was their job to inform, to enlighten, as well as to entertain. In a way, by bowing to the pressure of the marketplace, by putting three reporters on the Lakers beat but none at all on the Clippers, our local papers have demonstrated that they have abandon that old journalistic principle.

When the LA Times dies, and it is almost dead, will there be anyone left to mourn its passing? And when the Clippers get booted out of the NBA, will there by any local reporters left to write about it? How will we find out? Maybe we can catch a snippet of information from the AP or from Minneapolis’ Star Tribune …as in:

The Minnesota Timberwolves flew back to Minneapolis today after David Stern announced that the NBA team formerly known as the Los Angeles Clippers has been stripped of its franchise. “Well we didn’t know about the Clippers predicament until we showed up at the arena and Staples Center folks told us that the team didn’t exist anymore,” McHale said, “It was a shame, because we generally look forward to playing Los Angeles’ other team.” The Timberwolves will play Memphis next Tuesday and coach McHale said that his players can use the extra day of rest.

by MichaelCage on Jan 20, 2009 10:20 PM PST up reply actions  

wow someone hasn't hit the happy pills today

jk jk but in reality your point is right on all though as long as the clippers keep making money they aren’t going any where.

by bestclipfan on Jan 21, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

News Junkies

Citizen MichaelCage (among others) might be interested in this post on SportsByBrooks. They picked up my post about the Daily News, and mused about the implications for local coverage. They also link to a recent Mark Cuban post on BlogMaverick about the role of beat reporters.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 21, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Good article...

though I don’t really favor the decline of traditional mass media over the blogosphere. Mainly because of two things. One, most traditional reporters at least strive for objectivity in their reporting (until the recent rise of the cable news networks). Two, traditional mass media tends to bring a community together and moderate extreme opinions. The blogosphere and news on the web tend to divide people into like-minded sects.

In the past ten years, with the rise of Rupert Murdoch’s media empire, this firewall might have been eroding but there remain some semblance of the old order even in the shriveled shell of the LA Times and even the Chicago Tribune. One thing regarding his comment about Cuban’s idea of splitting the salary of the team’s reporter with the local paper…it might be construed as a conflict of interest, but for those of us who grew up listening to Chick Hearn; we remember how much he prided himself as a journalist first and the Lakers announcer second. If only those clowns Joel Meyers and Spero Dedes would take a page out of Chick’s book and stop kissing the players’ asses so much, it might make watching the Lakers telecast tolerable.

by MichaelCage on Jan 21, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Cuban's take

I had read Cuban’s post on the subject a couple of weeks back. Kevin at Clipperblog actually pointed me to it. I don’t doubt that reporters hired under Cuban’s proposed arrangement would strive for objectivity, but you can see how the situation could be fraught with peril. The bigger concern would likely be the teams trying to influence stories unduly – or firing reporters that they deem unfriendly.

Of course, there’s already plenty of conflict. A reporter who wants to get Baron Davis to answer a question next week is going to be hesitant to call him ‘the worst shooter in the NBA’ this week (no wonder he won’t return my calls). Access itself breeds conflicts of interest – teams and reporters can get a little too cozy. Witness the criticism of Jason Quick at the Oregonian for his perceived silence during the Darius Miles flapdoodle.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 21, 2009 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

You go, CS

Just goes to show what hitting “publish” on a mediocre post can do—you end up working harder on the responses.

Your logic on KA is solid. And I think that the in-depth analysis doesn’t make sense, but it’s worthwhile to give KA all the appropriate support and congrats—the original post goes to show that Clipartisans are few and far between.

Beverly Cleary is a genius. My kids loved those books, and I remember digging a little Henry Huggins in my own childhood. Pestering Dunleavy makes sense, but shouldn’t we check in with RS to see if she was traumatized by Cleary references in childhood?

by citizen zhiv on Jan 20, 2009 8:46 PM PST reply actions  

Good point...

She’s probably been called the Pest in the past. She may not find it quite so endearing as we do. Of course, now that she’s off the Clipper beat, she’s dead to me. I’ve already rent my garments.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 20, 2009 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

It's frustrating more than anything.

For whatever reason, I just like going to the newspaper for my news. Before becoming a regular here at Clips Nation, I got almost all of my Clipper news from the LA Times. It was sparse, but it was there and it was enough to get me by. But now, it’s all off the AP wire (like the rest of the paper) and I don’t get any insights. The only reason for me to read it is if I haven’t seen the game, and unfortunately I’ve seen most of the games this year.

I get that this is a Lakers’ town, and I am not objecting to that. I just feel that the Clippers should get some semblance of respect in terms of having actual beat reporters. To be honest, I’m not all that familiar with the work of Ramona Shelburne, but it’s great that she’s there (or was there, I guess). I mean, it shouldn’t be as hard as it is for Clipper fans to get somewhat decent articles and perspectives on our favorite team. No matter how sarcastic, it would at least give the Clippers some visibility.

The problemt that I have now is that the Clippers have become more of a joke than ever. People in LA just have no idea what’s going with them. They always say “That’s the Clippers” and they have every right to do that, but I can’t stand when they don’t even make a mention of the the Clippers SIX injuries, with their FOUR highest paid players among them. They don’t even have to go that in depth, but I would appreciate a mention of that on TV and radio just to keep my sanity. In all likelihood, the Clippers probably wouldn’t be a playoff team even if they were healthy, and that’s a huge problem. If the Lakers had half the injury problems that the Clippers do (which John Ireland would argue they do), then it would be all over ESPN and national sports news. I just wish for that kind of awareness on local news.

It’s just not good on any front for us Clipper fans.

by WestsideBrandon on Jan 20, 2009 10:11 PM PST reply actions  

yeah...

When they started doing that last year; reprinting AP articles on the Clippers instead of sending a writer to accompany the team on the road, I wrote to the LA Times and canceled my subscription. I told them that Jim Murray would be turning in his grave. But sadly, I’m a news junkie, so I still buy the LA Times pretty regularly…they’re but a shadow of what they were. But even the NYT is not what it once was. It’s a sad state of affairs.

by MichaelCage on Jan 20, 2009 10:29 PM PST up reply actions  

The lack of coverage is defninitely troubling

Outside of the Baron Davis/brand/Maggs triangle this summer, Clips have once again fallen back into the shadows of the LA Newspapers. Soon, the LA Galaxy will get more ink that the Clips. The Clips are like a bad joke. However, even bad jokes deserve coverage. Knicks have been bad for several years, but the Nets will never get more coverage.

Madglove spoke about moving the team to the OC. I have long opposed this, as Staples is one of the best arenas in the world. Nonetheless, it might help to get out from the Lakers shadow. The Honda Center is a definite downgrade, but it would be truly the Clips home. Obviously this will never happen as long as DTS is the owner, esp with the new training center at Playa Del Ray.

The Clips will never get equal billing until they win a championship. There was once a time the Angels were a side show in the SoCal. Now amazingly, they get equal billing, even as an OC team. When the Clips win, coverage will be better.

Where will the Clips play on radio, now that 710ESPN signed the Lakers? AM830? IF the Clips want to renew their fan base, they need media coverage.

I love LAC.

by oasisman on Jan 21, 2009 1:02 AM PST reply actions  

Where will the Clips play on radio, now that 710ESPN signed the Lakers?

510am or 1260am? God I hope not!! can’t get any reception in the OC!

"Duck, Crab. Crab, Duck"
Roger Sterling - Mad Men

by Lawler's Law on Jan 21, 2009 7:55 AM PST up reply actions  

The Angels

The Angels is the best case scenario analogy. When I was growing up in Southern California, the Angels were just as overshadowed by the Dodgers as the Clippers are by the Lakers. Winning is the only way to change that. Of course, the Dodgers are an historic and beloved franchise – but they’re not the Lakers.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 21, 2009 8:45 AM PST up reply actions  

from Ramona via email...

to answer your question … it’s complicated. I’m still going to be around, but just not as much.

"Duck, Crab. Crab, Duck"
Roger Sterling - Mad Men

by Lawler's Law on Jan 21, 2009 7:50 AM PST reply actions  

She wrote a first half recap today...

So there’s that.

BTW, did you ask her if she wants us to stop calling her ‘the pest’?

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 21, 2009 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

no...but I have not heard of these books before this post...I think my daughter will like them

I always learn something here at ClipsNation…

"Duck, Crab. Crab, Duck"
Roger Sterling - Mad Men

by Lawler's Law on Jan 21, 2009 9:17 AM PST reply actions  

How old is she?

Beverly Cleary is the best. There are many Ramona books, and then you also have the Ralph S. Mouse series and many, many more. As the kids get older, they can move into her ‘First Love’ series. ClipperZoe likes Beverly Cleary so much that she read her autobiography.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 21, 2009 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Apparently...

She is 92.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 21, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

perfect

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 21, 2009 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

6 ? i read all of those books when i was 10 or 11. i must be slow

by andrewexd on Jan 22, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

6 may be a little young, but soon

ClipperZoe went through most of the oeuvre at age 8… It also seems that school is at least a year ahead for my kids of where it was for me.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 22, 2009 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

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