Marcus Camby
I think many of us have watched Marcus Camby this season, especially during these last four weeks, with a combination of awe and trepidation. Awe that a 34 year old player could play so well and work so hard, particularly for a team going nowhere. Trepidation in the assumption that Marcus was surely getting frustrated, being the only name player left in the lineup, taking the floor night after night at the cneter of a team of young players and journeymen that had essentially no chance of beating an NBA opponent. And yet there he was, grabbing every rebound, blocking shots, diving out of bounds - caring. Caring so very much.
And he certainly was getting frustrated. When the losing streak reached a dozen, he said it felt like 30. Bear in mind, he went to the NBA Finals with the Knicks. He averaged 46 wins per game with the Nuggets the last 5 seasons and went to the playoffs every one of those years. It couldn't be easy going from a 50 win team last season to a team with the third worst record in the NBA.
But if the losing was getting to him, he certainly didn't let it show in his play. Or perhaps he did - perhaps he used it as motivation to be even better. Because that's what he's been: better. Arguably better than he's ever been, and that's pretty amazing when you consider how good he's been in his career.
He was leading the league in rebounding before he got hurt, and is currently second, within a few tenths of Dwight Howard. Considering the lead that Howard once had in that race and the rate at which Camby has been rebounding since the beginning of December, it's possible that Camby could win his first NBA rebounding title this season - which would be remarkable at the age of 35 (his birthday is in March). But even if Howard, who is having a monster year on the glass himself, holds on to the lead in that category, you have to recognize Camby's amazing performance. He's been a premier rebounder in the NBA for over a decade. Even so, he's currently enjoyin his best ever season on the glass, averaging 13.8 rebounds per game. It's been his best rebounding season by any measure - per game, per minute, offensive boards, defensive boards, any way you slice it. If the Nuggets thought he would begin to decline in his mid-30s, they appear to have been sorely mistaken.
He's also scoring more and more efficiently than he has in years. His 12.3 point per game average is the third highest of his 13 year career and his 50.9% shooting is also his third best. Furthermore, he's never before combined the two numbers as effectively as he has this season - 12.3 is the most he's ever averaged while shooting over 50%. And of course he's still among the league leaders in blocked shots as well, currently second in the NBA.
Some might argue that the current situation on the Clippers is artificially elevating his statistics; that the team is so depleted he doesn't have much competition for rebounds or points. There's probably a tiny bit of truth to that as regards rebounding - certainly his career high 3.5 offensive rebounds per game are padded by all those Clipper misses, LA being the worst shooting team in the NBA. But he's also averaging a career high on the defensive end. As for scoring, it's hard to imagine how playing on a bad team is in any way beneficial to his shooting percentage. Bottom line - don't minimize what he's accomplishing. It's truly astounding.
Camby's professionalism, effort and performance make the prolonged absences of Chris Kaman, Zach Randolph and Baron Davis all the more frustrating for the citizens of Clips Nation. MDsr's veiled reference that perhaps some of those guys might not be completely motivated to hurry back into game action given the fact that the season is already lost would consititute a major insult to Camby's own dedication if there is any truth to the suggestion. Of course Camby himself is injured now, but I doubt anyone will accuse him of malingering - we saw his ankle and knee twist, and then we saw him limp back out of the locker room in hopes of getting back onto the floor against the Bucks - the coach and the trainer may have different ideas, but Marcus Camby will play as soon as they let him.
So back to that trepidation - is Camby frustrated with all the losing, with the injuries, with the perception that perhaps Kaman and Randolph and Davis aren't as motivated to push their twenty-something bodies the way he's pushing his? The trade rumors started the minute the Clippers traded for Zach Randolph and they continue to circulate. Is Marcus happily reading those rumors, hoping for a trade that will send him to a contender?
Apparently not. It's certainly possible that he secretly harbors a desire to get out of what is by any reasonable measure a difficult situation, but his public statements have all been incredibly encouraging. He told Ramona Shelburne on January 14th (when the losing streak was at 12) that he was 'in it for the long haul.' And in two separate high profile articles within the last week he's said all the right things. He told Mark Heisler of the LA Times:
I love the situation. My wife loves it out here. My kids are acclimated to the school system. The weather's great.
In a Sports Illustrated article by Paul Forrester, he was even more positive, talking not just about the weather and his family, but also about mentoring young players on the Clippers roster:
When you give a constant effort on the glass, guys appreciate you for that. They see how much effort you're putting in, how bad you want to fight and win. That can be contagious; it can jolt a little life into other players and into the fans. I love going out there and battling against these young studs they have in this league. And the enjoyment I take in seeing our young players develop pretty much makes my day.
In a similar situation, most players in their mid 30s would be lobbying for a trade (either publicly or privately), talking about how they've earned a chance to grab that elusive ring (remember, Marcus came close in New York, making it to the Finals in 1999). Not only is Marcus not demanding to be traded, or even asking to be traded: he's actually asking NOT to be traded:
I know a lot of teams have been calling, and it's always good to feel wanted. If I have my preference, I would like to stay here.
Wow. I did not see that coming.
Both Heisler and Forrester make the case that Camby should be getting All Star consideration for his season. And both admit that it's just not going to happen given the Clippers' record. Camby gets that as well. But it's worth noting that Dwight Howard is a leading candidate for MVP and will start at center in the East while leading the league in rebounding and blocked shots, while his only competition in either of those categories is Marcus Camby, who has essentially no chance of being chosen. Yao will start at center in the West and Shaq will make the team as well - the Suns' record and the fact that the game is in Phoenix dictate that Marcus has no chance against the Big Cactus. But he's putting up numbers that are All Star worthy, and that's more than can be said for any other player on the Clippers' roster right now.
Marcus has one more season left on his current contract. Given that his productivity has not decreased at all, and has in fact increased, at the age of 34, it's reasonable to assume that he can be a major contributor for the Clippers next season as well. So would the team re-sign him at the age of 36? It seem as if Marcus Camby has somewhat different priorities than the typical NBA player. When Denver traded him, he was saddened not by the fact that he was leaving a 50 win team, but at the impact on his relationships with his teammates and his place in the community. If his family is happy in Southern California, that will no doubt be a factor in his decision-making process in 2010. It's 18 months away, and many, many things can change between now and then. Barring a trade in the interim, the Clippers would still feature over $28M worth of bigs in Kaman and Randolph. But Camby would likely be ready for fewer minutes and a backup role at 36; I'd consider re-signing him strictly as a locker room presence and a mentor to DeAndre Jordan.
Of course, we haven't even seen Camby, Randolph and Kaman all healthy at the same time yet, so that's the first order of business. The truth is that Camby is the ultimate complementary player; he does all of the things that help teams (rebounding, blocking shots, defense, passing) while not really needing the one thing in shortest supply - the ball. He can fit with anyone, and has in fact been effective both with Kaman (for dozen games early in the season) and with Randolph (for a dozen in December). The immediate goal is to see what can happen with this team healthy, hopefully for more than just a dozen games. There are 42 games left this season, and 29 after the All Star Break. If the Clippers can put a healthy team on the floor at some point this season, it will go a long way in determining how good they can be next year, and where Marcus Camby fits.
Heisler is one of my favorite NBA writers, and I'll give him the last word on Camby's career as a Clipper so far:
There's a term for someone Camby's age, who competes at his level, no matter how bad things are, for no other reason than the referee just threw the ball up.
It's: Great.
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Great stuff CS
Great post, really sums up how proud we are all are to have a player of the class of Marcus play his heart out for the team and how it displays how much extra a player can give if he’s dedicated and committed.
I knew he was a very good player but never realised until this season (watching him far more often) how good he really is. He’s not noted for his offence but he can consistently knock down that jumper from 12 feet.
In a way I feel guilty that he is wasting away one of his best career years on the disaster that is our team this year.
I tell you this, I would give up Kaman for nothing if you could make Marcus Camby magically 5 years younger.
Bingo!
by ClippersUK on Jan 21, 2009 2:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I've always liked how the guy plays
…and now I really like his character.
He’s just become my favorite player. To me, he’s what Elton Brand should have been.
Excuse me, I’m going to go buy a Marcus Camby jersey now.
by Newtybar on Jan 21, 2009 2:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nice!
Way to find something in this dreadful season to make Clips fans feel good. Especially since we’re going to need to going into tonight’s game.
by madglove on Jan 21, 2009 2:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'd Extend Him 1-2 years
Keep him in L.A. to end his career, just give him a fair price and he’ll stay. Bring back Cassell as an assistant, and maybe Camby can join him on the bench in a few years, or find some other role for him in player development, etc. Let’s build up the Clipper family..
by ghost_ride on Jan 21, 2009 4:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
2 years at least
If you re-sign him, if he’s still playing well, you’d want to give him a 2 year deal. The 2 year contract is the new 1 year contract in the modern NBA – for anything above the minimum. If it works out and the guy plays well, great. If not, you have an expiring contract in the second year. 1 year deals are too short – there’s little chance to trade them. Bizarro world NBA.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jan 21, 2009 4:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Comparison
Maybe somebody (not me) can try to work out the comparison between the Camby situation and the way the Cassell scenario played out. Completely different players and personalities, with the common denominator being that they’re old but extremely productive. It makes my head hurt to even think about trying to figure out how the situations might be similar, but a start is to note that MD got Cassell a generous 1-year extension.
by citizen zhiv on Jan 21, 2009 4:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Cassell
I thought about the contrast to buyout-Cassell – veteran player on an injury-riddled team, Cassell angles for the buyout (along with his agent, Beelzebub), Camby wants to stick around and mentor the young players. The big difference being that buyout Cassell was in the final year of his contract.
But I hadn’t thought about the comparison to 2006 Cassell. When Camby’s current contract runs out, he’ll be 36 years and 3 months old; Cassell was 36 years and 7 months old in June 2006. The Clippers re-signed Cassell to a 2/$13M deal – not a 1 year extension. Of course, injuries caught up with the 37 year old Cassell.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jan 21, 2009 4:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
re:
But Sam was not very good when he was angling for his buyout while Camby is a beast.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jan 21, 2009 9:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Big Games tonight
CHA vs. SAC, GSW vs. OKC…who will get more ping balls at the end of the night
by Qlippers on Jan 21, 2009 6:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
deandre
is the new beast….camby must have taught him some lessons,,novak is wettttttt
mardy is impressive
by baronycamby on Jan 21, 2009 8:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
DJ
Deandre should get alot of minutes over Skinner from now on. Let the kid get experience and use the rest of the season to rebuild. DJ needs to learn defensive rotations and proper spacing on the offensive end, but his athleticism and freakishly long arms will keep him in the game for now.
by MichaelCage on Jan 21, 2009 10:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Heisler
“Heisler is one of my favorite NBA writers, and I’ll give him the last word on Camby’s career as a Clipper so far:”
Mark Heisler is probably the best NBA writer out there right now…even better than SI’s Jack McCallum in my opinion. His annual letters to Sterling is always a must read each season. Heisler is a big fan of Dunleavy though, or at least he’s very supportive of continuity and stability for a franchise.
by MichaelCage on Jan 21, 2009 10:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Stability
I’ve been meaning to mention that, as it is apropos to the ongoing debate, raging currently on a FanPost about Baron. Heisler spent a surprising amount of time in his Camby column talking about the stability issue. Of course, that’s just his opinion. But you and I seem to agree that Heisler knows what he’s talking about.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jan 22, 2009 12:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Camby IS Great
I’ve been wanting to write a post, exclusively regarding how much I appreciate Marcus and why. I think it’s been pretty clear in all my posts throughout this season that he’s been my favorite player because of his consistent effort and energy on the floor.
I wanted to use my lowly “pen” to write him a note of thanks here on CN. But after reading this great post from CS, I’ll just add my thoughts in this comment.
Thank you Marcus!
You epitomize all the reasons I became a Clipper fan. I appreciate your effort in giving fans something to cheer about in an otherwise dismal and dark season. Please don’t give up! Please stay with the Clippers. I have no doubt that your earnest effort will be rewarded by the affect it has on all those around you.
by moKi on Jan 21, 2009 11:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
nugs/camby fan here
im a longtime nuggets fan and also specifically a marcus camby fan. the whole time he was here (denver) he was one of the hardest working and most professional players on the ‘thuggets’. great article analyzing how he plays and who he is, i hope you clips fans appreciate him.
by sleepydog on Jan 21, 2009 11:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Great post Steve
Had never thought of putting the Camby acquisition and play to date into perspective like that. Guess missing so many games on TV being in San Diego now and without the NBA package is taking its toll on my powers of Clip Show observation ;). Now I’m totally on-board with a re-sign. Such a flake (see previous AT y Camby for Kirelenko trade proposal). Oh to be a long-time Clips fan…small wins and wild scenarios wherever we can get ’em.
ps – disagree with your Heisler comment in that as much as I love his arrogant one-liners in his Power Poll, I don’t know that anyone in recent years has deserved the mantle of best NBA writer…not Sam Smith (though I eat up the outlandish and unfounded trade proposals), or Buecher (sp?) or Stein and definitely not SCREAMIN A. SMITH or f-ing Hollinger. Oddly, I think the boys over at FreeDarko and Abbottt (really an aggregator), combined with the revolution in coverage that is Espana-hosted HoopsHype, should keep the torch warm until a truly great voice comes along. Simmons doesn’t figure, but you gotta love his genuine love for the pro game. It’s that love for the game I don’t see in many writers today.
pps – posted briefly as Ghost of Gary Grant. Would like to hear your thoughts on Kevin becoming editor of the TrueHoop Network, and what you think that development means to sports blogging in general and NBA blogs in particular. .
Peace
by gskow on Jan 22, 2009 12:00 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
responses to ps's
There are some very good beat writers out there. Heisler’s a dying breed – a league columnist for a daily. He’s probably more akin to a national magazine writer at this point. And he’s managed to remain relevant (for me at least) without resorting to the rumor mongering and crazy talk of a Sam Smith or a Peter Vecsey.
There are some great basketball voices in the blogosphere, and of course I’m a big proponent of those voices. Dave from Blazers Edge, Tom Ziller from Sactown Royalty, Kelly Dwyer and JE Skeets from Ball don’t lie – and yes Kevin Arnovitz – are some of my favorites. But I’d have to say that Heisler is my favorite NBA newspaper writer.
On Kevin’s new gig, I posted very briefly on it yesterday. I’m not likely to say more at this point. I’ll probably have lunch with Kevin soon to talk Clippers and blogging, plus I kind of want to see where TrueHoop Network goes. For now, I’m very jealous of Kevin that he’s got a paying job doing what we love to do. And I’m very happy for him.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jan 22, 2009 12:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i hate to say it...
but his trade value is probably at it’s highest point right now…
I like his hard play and determination, and most of all his effort, but I also like quitting while I’m ahead…
just a thought.
by cantthinkofagoodname on Jan 22, 2009 12:12 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
CTGN
Cashing out his chips. It’s a thought.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jan 22, 2009 12:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Knicks/Camby fan
Yeh brilliant article there. I’m in the same boat as ‘sleepydog’ only a longtime Knicks fan. Camby is the absolute shiz. Along with David Lee, one of the hardest working and (still) underrated players of the league. I hate seeing him injured.
Unless he signs back with the Knicks in 2010, I hope he stays with the Clips and leads them back to the playoffs.
by Stecka on Jan 22, 2009 1:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Camby's been amazing.
I mean, he could have shut it down a long time ago (in a land far away), but he didn’t. He gave it his all for a team that is piling up losses at an alarming rate. This is a guy who has shown this kind of effort his whole career and has just one Finals appereance and no rings to show for it. He could have been publicly angry, being that he is 34 and that window is closing at a more alarming rate than the Clippers piling of losses. However, he has given it more than his all in a desperate attempt to put this team on his 34 year old knees, and unfortunately the weight finally got the better of him on Saturday. Heisler wrote an interesting article about the Lakers and Clippers in today’s paper and blames himself for Camby’s injury seeing as he had called him “The last Clipper standing” in this column. He was a beacon of hope and gave me someone I could truly cheer for when I made my way to Staples.
"When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished by how much he'd learned in seven years." -Mark Twain
by WestsideBrandon on Jan 22, 2009 4:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Completely agree with you...
Camby has been such a stalwart that I feel so guilty that he should be playing for such an atrcious team like ours. The guy might have three or four good years left and he deserves to win an NBA championship.
by MichaelCage on Jan 22, 2009 4:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Camby = Clippers MVP
Camby is, by far, the Clippers’ MVP, and I’m glad to have him on this team. His leadership, and infectious hustle is showing, in DeAndre. We NEED to keep this guy around for a while.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Jan 22, 2009 10:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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