Clippers 107 - Oklahoma City 104
First of all, let's just remember never to say "The injury situation can't get any worse." Because it can always get worse. If you send five guys out onto the court, even if they aren't five guys you ever thought would be there, if one or two more of them get hurt, then guess what? It's worse.
So rather than starting this game with Marcus Camby as we had hoped the Clippers might, instead they started WITHOUT Brian Skinner, out with the flu. Then 4 minutes into the game, Mardy Collins strained a calf muscle and did not return. As it happens, I myself have missed a couple of my beloved basketball nights recently with a strained calf - let's hope Mardy's 20 something body mends more quickly than my 40 something one because the Clippers can use him right now.
At any rate, we've said for weeks with this injury-depleted roster that Eric Gordon and Al Thornton would have to carry the scoring load. The Prime Ticket broadcast took the point to extremes, hyping the 'Frosh-Soph' combos on each team, pointing out the Durant+Westbrook is the highest scoring such combo in the league, while Thornton+Gordon is second. At any rate, if anyone was aware of the Clippers' reliance on those two to score going into the game, they figured it out pretty quickly.
In the first half Thornton (21) and Gordon (16) scored 37 of the Clippers 50 points (74%). No one else on the team had more than 3. By the end, they had accounted for 74 of the Clippers 107 - a mere 70% of the offense. Gordon finished the game with a career high and Clipper rookie record 41. Thornton (who held the previous record of 39 along with Tom Chambers) put up a season-high 34.
If Gordon and Thornton each had season best games, you might think the Clippers should have a relatively easy time with the team with the worst record in the NBA (still, thank FSM). But there are a few other factors here. One, Kevin Durant is very, very good, and scored 46 himself. Two, Oklahoma City has been playing better, having won 4 of 6. Three, and most important, the casual NBA fan has literally never heard of the Clippers other key contributors in this game.
For most of the fourth quarter, Fred Jones (out of the NBA for the first two months of the season), Steve Novak (455 total minutes played in his first two seasons in the NBA) Cheikh Samb (65 minutes of NBA experience prior to this game) joined Thornton and Gordon on the floor. It's hard to imagine that lineup could be anybody, no matter how well Thornton and Gordon had it going. But the did.
Partly because no one else from the Thunder showed up to help Durant. Durant finished with his 46 - and the next highest Thunder player was Jeff Green with 14. Now, I understand that Scott Brooks was calling Durant's number almost every time down the floor, but with the lineup the Clippers had on the floor down the stretch, Steve Novak was defending Jeff Green. I keep hearing people talk about how great Green is - but where was he tonight? Let's face it, Novak's not on the floor for his defense. Green needed to beast Novak in the fourth, and he simply didn't. (Thanks in part to the CS reverse mojo - you're welcome Citizens.)
In fact, back to the Prime Ticket promos at the beginning of the game, if OKC's future is bright because of their three young starters from the last two drafts, tonight it seemed like Kevin Durant and a couple of draft day misses. Westbrook finished with 11 points on 12 shots, 2 assists and 3 turnovers in his LA homecoming. And if he's supposed to be a great defender, then Eric Gordon must be even better than we thought.
Gordon had it going, to put it mildly. He scored his 41 on a mere 19 shots, finishing 12 for 19, 5 for 7 from 3 point distance, 12 for 14 from the line - and he also had 4 assists for good measure. When his three is falling like that, I'm not sure what a defender is supposed to do against the guy. He doesn't need a lot of room to get off the three, and his range extends several steps beyond the arc. But he's also a monster driving to the basket, so if you crowd him on the perimeter or close out too fast, he's headed to the rim for an old-fashioned and-one three point play. Interestingly, although he made 5 threes, most of the sets the Clippers ran for him were curls to get him the ball near the corner of the key. And it was working all night. The defender would trail around the screen, and once EJ got him on his hip, he's just so strong and so good with the ball, he kept him there, out of position, until the ball was in the basket.
You almost have to feel a little sorry for Al Thornton. He goes for a season-high 34, his first 30+ game of the season, and everyone is going to be talking about the rookie. The offense for Al was great - his jumper was falling from the very start, and that just makes life so much easier. But I was also impressed with Al's defense tonight. He had three blocked shots in the game, including one at the end of the first half where he ended up on Westbrook on the switch, and the rookie threw everything he had at Al, but Al just kept recovering and stayed close enough to block the shot at the halftime buzzer. Sure, Durant torched Thornton in the fourth quarter - but frankly, he torched the other defenders who drew the assignment a lot worse. Al defended him better than anyone else, and certainly was working hard.
It was nice just to win a game, but it was especially nice to win a close one. I would have liked to have seen a few more defensive stops down the stretch, but Durant was pretty determined to score (and the refs, it must be said, were pretty determined to help him - he shot a ridiculous 26 free throws).
They may not have gotten the stops, but they did get some big hoops. The Clippers built the lead up to 8 points in the fourh, but Durant cut it to 3 with a couple more free throws with 99 seconds left. On the Clippers next possession, Novak drained a corner three to build the lead back up to 6. I think it's safe to say that Steve Novak has not logged a whole lot of final two minute possessions in the NBA - this was a big shot. Unfortunately, Durant answered with a three of his own (on a play where Al Thornton had a complete brain fart and choose to lay off Durant with the Clippers up 6 with just over a minute left - and that was with MDsr screaming at him to get up on the guy), forcing the Clippers to score again. This time, it was Gordon taking the ball straight to the cup, and just willing it in, over Nick Collison and despite being bumped. It was a huge score, and it built the lead back to 5 which proved to be enough.
Novak had another good game, with 10 points on 4 for 8 shooting. Fred Jones had his best game in awhile, scoring 12 and hitting two big three pointers. In fact, the three-ball was huge for the Clippers tonight - they made 11 of them on 19 tries. Cheiky Samb looks intriguing, I'll say that for him. He played 23 minutes tonight - a career high, as you might imagine - and blocked 3 shots and grabbed 8 rebounds in those minutes. He's way too weak around the basket right now, and he simply may not have the frame to ever change that. He I liked his activity on both ends. They say he can make the 18 footer - although he didn't show that tonight; he was 1 for 7.
The bad news (in addition to all the usual injury stuff, that is) is that DeAndre Jordan is not quite ready for the Hall of Fame, and Ricky Davis has completely forgotten how to shoot. After two straight solid games as a starter, DeAndre ended up with more fouls (5) than points (3) in this one. As fo Ricky, it's got to be mostly mental at this point. He just can't shoot anymore. He was 0 for 6, and on one three point attempt, he looked like someone who learned to shoot by reading a book. He's really thinking out there (not in a good way) and his shot is just not natural to him right. But let's give Ricky (and MDsr) for making the best of the situation. For most of the third quarter, MDsr had Ricky running the point. Fred Jones was shooting well, so Ricky became the distributor, and he had 11 assists. It was a very shrewd in game adjustment, and really paid off as it allowed the Clippers to squeeze some quality minutes out of Ricky on a night where they needed all of their remaining healthy bodies to contribute.
Overall, I'd call it a welcome if unlikely win. Of the Clippers 10 wins, three have now come courtesy of the Thunder. It keeps the Clippers out of the cellar, at least for a few days more. And hopefully soon the Clippers players will begin re-joining the team. At which pontit would be a surprise when they beat teams like the Thunder.
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This game ought to put
Gordon higher then Westbrook on the rookie rankings. Pretty good game in general by the clips especially given the two injuries and we had to endure with our all ready depleted roster. Not to mention that we had to use a guy from the D league as our center because of DJ’s foul trouble.
by bestclipfan on Jan 24, 2009 9:09 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
No Chance David Thorpe
watched this and so might move him up to about 11 cos he’s a muppet.
Bingo!
by ClippersUK on Jan 24, 2009 3:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's a muppet?
Explain please, Mr. Wacky Brit. What is a muppet? I mean, aside from the obvious Kermit, Foz E. Bear thing.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jan 24, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much sums it up.
Someone who is being foolish and doesn’t know what they are talking about.
If you look in an English dictionary, there will be a picture of Kermit, Animal and then David Thorpe!
Bingo!
by ClippersUK on Jan 25, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Eric Gordon
There are so many things to like about the Clips young rookie. He knew that this was an important personal matchup, and he stayed well within his game, heated up and owned the game, and he and AT 1-2ed Durant while Westbrook (and Jeff Green—well played, CS) faded into becoming a nonentity.
Novak’s 3 down the stretch was a very big shot.
I kind of like the fact that Randolph and Camby are going to come back a game or two before BD, with Kaman close behind. Before he was hurt BD played a good number of games with Gordon, but we talked about how it wasn’t until BD went down (after ZBo) that Gordon became the primary option. BD is a very smart guy and savvy player and he knows a good thing when he sees it. He and Gordon are going to be a fearsome backcourt, but it will be good for Gordon to remain a focal point with ZBo and Camby for a game or two. BD will be healthy and inspired and the Clips are going to be a tough team.
At any rate, mission accomplished. Let’s see if that was good enough to crack Thorpe’s top ten. Westbrook has 3 30 pt games. Now Gordon has two 30+ games and one 40+ game. And then we’ll see how Gordon plays in the rookie game, assuming he makes the squad, to see if he can move up in those rankings.
Of course we shouldn’t forget that this was a scrub game between bottom dwellers. But it was also a showcase for young talent and future stars. It’s worth remembering how Gordon was just beginning to get meaningful minutes when he went up against OJ Mayo, and Mayo looked both solid and fluid and seemed to be a big cut above EJ. But Mayo had been a starter and primary option for the Grizz from the first day of summer league and training camp and preseason, and he had a good number of NBA games and matchups under his belt (losing virtually all of them) by the time that game was played. “Cumulatively,” Gordon has been on a similar team playing a similar role for about the same amount of time now. The difference is, after that All-Star weekend (and because of the Mobley trade), Gordon is going to be a starter and big time weapon on a talented team that is hungry for victories. Cumulate that.
by citizen zhiv on Jan 24, 2009 9:13 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Not bad for the 14th best rookie
Gordon reminds me a little of Mobley’s buddy, Steve Francis, but maybe with a better shot. He is a rare combination of strength and quickness.
The Clippers have a star on their hands. He may end up being the best of the 2 guards when all is said and done. I don’t see Mayo as being that much better right now.
AT and EG will be a potent combo on the wings for quite a while. I can’t imagine the Clippers not being a solid team in the coming years with their roster, assuming guys can get healthy.
F-Elton!
by mikey p on Jan 24, 2009 9:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
as much as i love EJ
i think Mayo is going to be the better player, hope i’m wrong.
by XXDC2XX on Jan 25, 2009 12:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take second in that contest....
Mayo has looked great. but it’s also worth noting that Mayo and Rose are both declining from Nov to Dec to Jan, while EJ is rising.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jan 25, 2009 2:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
In the end it may well be about them as individuals, but for a long time it’s going to be much more a matter of the guys that they play with. And Gordon, now firmly established, is part of a much stronger roster than Mayo, once everybody is back. Lots of things are pointing already to next year for the Clippers (such a long wait!), and we should have a much better sense of where Mayo and Gordon are and where they’re going by the end of next year.
And we shouldn’t leave Westbrook and Rose out of the discussion. Westbrook might make good use of the time and his running mate Durant and Seattle’s plethora of draft picks to find himself on a good team, but it will probably take a couple of years for the Thunder to put it all together, Memphis even longer, and Rose plays in the East. Rose might be the best of the bunch, but we’ll see how it all “accumulates.” Gordon’s outlook for the next 16 months looks pretty good, probably better than Mayo and Westbrook.
by citizen zhiv on Jan 25, 2009 8:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
EJ showed the defensive ability
again that sold MDSr on the guy. Two plays that don’t show up in the box score were the clean block on the recovery on a westbrook jumper that was mistakenly whistled a foul, and a strip under the basket late in the fourth quarter that I don’t believe he was credited for.
He can get up in a hurry and his hands are so fast. I wonder if he had landed elsewhere if his defense would have come along so quickly. Obviously his offensive talents got him into this league, but how much more valuable is a guy who can put up his numbers and still block shots and pick players clean? I really see him making life hard for fellow scorers for years to come.
He also looks to create for other guys and is a good passer. The Novak 3 that “sealed” the game came off a bullet pass out of double coverage to Fred Jones and he also was trying to set up DeAndre late in the fourth but had to respond with a beautiful layup when DJ fell asleep.
I love everything about this guy. ESPN highlighted Durant despite EJ shooting much better and shooting 12 fewer free throws and the Clippers getting the win. I expected it but still could not believe it when I saw it. Durant, Dirk, and Gerald Wallace. No room for EJ.
by oneight on Jan 24, 2009 11:33 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Good Analysis
When we first started looking at Gordon I was worried about him being undersized to play the NBA two and it seemed like he might be a Ben Gordon type, and not a factor on defense. His combine results were really promising, however, especially when compared to Westbrook. And yes, Dunleavy’s focus on defense and support for hustle, deflections, and defensive skills makes EJ seem at this point to be a well-rounded player. We’re very aware of his defense around here, and he’s going to be a handful for a lot of SGs for a long time. He has a rare combination of heft and strength and agility.
Can’t wait for all of the other Clippers to come back and to get the full squad out on the floor with Gordon going into his first bloom. BD mentioned that his first year at GSW was really rocky and frustrating and all sorts of things went wrong, but they followed it up with a miracle season. The Clips are shaping up to do something similar. Requires patience, but the positive signs and silver lining at this point is substantial. 75 points from Gordon and Thornton!
by citizen zhiv on Jan 24, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good points
Thing is when you look at the box score, you don’t get an indication on how good his defence was. I noticed both those plays you mention. He’s just ultra competitive and that is a great attitude to have – never-say-die.
He can bring so much to this team. Us Clipper Nation fans know how he can score. We saw him create and lead the team today with maturity and skill levels not seen by a rookie before in Clipperland. The tight defence is just the icing on the cake.
His score was the highest for a rookie in the Clipper franchise history. He is without doubt my fav player now.
I’m very interested in how this team works out when all the players are back. Not everyone can have the ball in their hands. It’s got to be share. Hopefully Baron will understand there are better people to shot the 3 than him!
Bingo!
by ClippersUK on Jan 24, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The block on Westbrook
I didn’t want to bag on Russell too much, since there are so many UCLA guys around here, but…
He scored 11, and four of those were absolute gifts. He got two free throws on a play where EJ made a surgically clean block. Funny thing is, Mike Smith was preparing a statement about ‘After you get ball if you get some arm, it’s almost never called a foul…’ – and then they showed the replay and he got ball and nothing else. A beautiful block, and a terrible call. Oh well, it happens.
Then Westbrook got the dunk (dude can jump, I’ll give him that) after Jason Hart blew the lob on a fast break the other way. Hart telegraphed his pass, and then threw the ball way too low (Durant is LONG, that much is certain) and it wound up a fast break the other way. But it was a nice finish by Westbrook.
Re: whether or not Thorpe might have seen this one. He must watch a LOT of games. And with DeAndre going off against the Lakers the game before, and Westbrook and EJ and Kyle Weaver all playing, I wouldn’t be surprised if he watched this one. His beat is covering rookies, after all, and rookies played over 100 minutes in this one – I’d wager it was one of the highest minute totals for rooks on the night. So he may have watched, at least on TiVo. I can’t imagine that the highest point total for a rookie this season is going to be ignored by ESPN rookie watch – but we’ll see.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jan 24, 2009 5:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bag away, ClipperSteve.
I didn’t see the whole game, but Westbrook definitely did not look very good when I did see him. He’s athletic, but he’s rough around the edges. He wasn’t really that big a recruit out of high school, so he cam a long way into years, but definitely has room for improvement. Also, to expound on the jumping point, he most definitely should have won the vote to get into the dunk contest. Nothing against Rudy Fernandez, but anyone who saw Russell play at all last year knows what he does above the rim (particularly his dunks at Cal and vs. Oregon)
With all that said, EJ definitely owned Russ West in this one. I mean, anytime you can outscore your opponent by thirty (or even score thirty for that matter), you’re doing something right offensive. He’s got range for days and the power to muscle his way into the paint. He plays great defense as well. He’s just a playmaker. I’ll be the first to admit that I was more than skeptical when we drafted the guy, based on his poor shooting percentage last year. I didn’t know anything else about him except for the fact that he was a scorer, and I assumed that was because he was a volume shooter. Well, I was wrong. Very very wrong.
"When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished by how much he'd learned in seven years." -Mark Twain
by WestsideBrandon on Jan 24, 2009 8:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No Worries
Westbrook is going to be a very good player, but he’s still got a ways to go. He has a hunger to play defense, although he couldn’t do much to stop Gordon. They weren’t exactly head to head for the whole game, but Gordon played great and basically crushed Westbrook—the block/foul shows it. So Westbrook will defend and work hard, and he’s going to be able to get his shot and he will get better at it. The 30 pt games he has put up mean something. And I think that one of his shots in the game was a three that showed better range than he used to have, at UCLA.
As a Bruin fan, he seems like a great kid and a good teammate and valuable piece on a young team that already has an obvious star in Durant. It’s just going to take a long time for the Thunder to put things together, and they have to be smart about how they use all of the draft picks that they have, and how they spend their money. The three big man picks they made prior to winning the Durant sweepstakes have killed them—they made three Korolev-level picks in a row, unless I’m mistaken.
But Westbrook is fun to watch and at some point he’s going to be extremely good. I couldn’t be happier, however, to see Gordon take him out so ferociously.
by citizen zhiv on Jan 25, 2009 8:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"The Hobbit"
Anyone catch the la times article , where under point B), we learn that teammates fondly refer to Gordon as “The Hobbit”.
Not the strongest nickname for a guy who’s setting Clipper rookie records at the tender age of 20, but whatever you want to call him, he’s showing more potential than any player this franchise has ever seen. He’s also doing it quietly, by not over-shooting, playing hard nose defense, making free throws, and creating for other players. No doubt by now he’s earned the respect of all the veterans, and you have to think that the younger guys are trying to be just a little bit more like “Eric”. Could it be a reason why we’ve seen Al make more and more defensive plays lately? Who knows, but his tenacity and will to win can only help the other guys.
by ghost_ride on Jan 24, 2009 1:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hobbit
I think we heard this at the beginning of the season from Marcus Camby. And I’m sure that BD and the other Clippers all jumped on. Gordon definitely has Hobbit-like qualities with the shape of his head and ears and the way his eyes are set.
Hobbits are awesome. Didn’t know that they could be successful in the NBA, but it never should have been in doubt.
Good point about leading by example. It would be great if he’s working on some Brandon Roy-type focus and maturity.
by citizen zhiv on Jan 24, 2009 1:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Brandon Roy-type focus
I like that. And I like EG’s attitude. He whines a bit on non-calls but he seems remarkably uh… even-keeled out there. He’s kind of unperturbable. He might actually be Mister Unperturbable.
by swamigusto on Jan 24, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He does and
the interview after the game showed he appears very level headed. Wasn’t too excited following his performance. Kept mentioning working as a team to put more wins in the column – said all the right things and appears mature.
Bingo!
by ClippersUK on Jan 24, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Are his feet furry?
That’s the real test.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jan 24, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What happened to DJ White!?
That was a disturbing sight! I was at a bowling party and could not hear what Milph were saying about him…How the heck did he get that swelling in his face!?
"Duck, Crab. Crab, Duck"
Roger Sterling - Mad Men
by Lawler's Law on Jan 24, 2009 6:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yes, benign tumor
They said the swelling would eventually go down. I’m no doctor, and didn’t really get it. Sounds like he’s been through quite a bit, but the good news is it is (a) benign and (b) he’s expected to recover completely.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jan 24, 2009 8:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Thornton had 30 in the first game against Denver.
It was the game on Halloween that went into overtime, but he scored 30 nonetheless. We’re going to have to face facts and realize that Al is probably never going to be an extremely efficient player. The 34 points is great, but the 28 FGA isn’t. This isn’t to say that I didn’t like his performance; a 34 point game is a 34 point game. His shot was falling early, which was good, but I think he got a little too confident with it and kept trying to face up his defender rather than drive by him and create. However, I love getting a big contribution from Al. We need it with our injury situation, which has somehow found a way to get worse.
There isn’t a whole lot I can say about EJ that hasn’t already been said. 41 points on 19 FGA is absolutely amazing. He can knock down threes, drive the lane and absorb contact, and that’s only one one side of the ball. Everybody around the Clippers has harped on the fact that to win with all of the injuries, the Cips were going to need great outputs by Thornton and Gordon. Well, they finally got that. Before, it seemed like one of them would have a good game and the other one wouldn’t. Last night, though, the two combined for 75 points and got the Clippers a win which pushes them into double digits in that department(not to mention guarantees that we won’t have the worst season of all time in terms of record).
Any time you win an NBA game with Chiekh Samb playing close to 23 minutes, it’s an accomplishment regardless of the opponent. That said, I think that ClipperSteve expounded on the fact that the Thunder have woken up of late and, oh yeah, they have that Kevin Durant guy. The team has now won two of four, and is starting to rebuild that original cushion they had over the other bottom feeders.
I don’t really want to go into what this team could be, when healthy. With this team’s injury record, I don’t ever want to make an assumption that that will ever happen. I like what I see from the guys who are on the court, but it’s tough to talk about guys getting healthy when Brian Skinner and Mardy Collins both don’t play, making the Clippers injury situation even worse.
I’m waiting for Dunleavy to turn around one day and see Larry, Curly and Moe on the bench for him.
"When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished by how much he'd learned in seven years." -Mark Twain
by WestsideBrandon on Jan 24, 2009 8:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
13 for 28 is not that bad… its 46 % which is above his season average.
by andrewexd on Jan 24, 2009 8:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Plus two 3's
So that’s an eFG of 50%. Can’t ask for much more than that.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jan 24, 2009 8:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think that he had a great game.
I’m just saying that he’s probably not going to be an efficient scorer in the NBA any time soon. He takes a lot of shots, but he does put poinst on the board. I guess I’m just saying that maybe we should stop waiting for something to happen with Al and accept that this is the kind of player he is. Some nights, he’ll go off and others, he’ll have a tough time getting those shots to go. I’d love if he could shoot 46% more often. I didn’t mean to rain on the parade (and by parade, I mean one victory).
"When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished by how much he'd learned in seven years." -Mark Twain
by WestsideBrandon on Jan 24, 2009 8:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He can be frustrating and this
inconsistency affects the team when we are so short – we need him and Eric to put up big numbers to have any chance of winning. Problem is that defences are going to play so much tighter at the moment on him and Eric as they are the obvious offensive threats.
When we get Zach and Baron back (and Chris to a lower extent), defenses are going to have to put coverage on other individuals and so Al should get better scoring opportunities but also, less of the ball. He’s a good solid team player but I’m not sure I see the All Star capabilities that some people talk of.
Bingo!
by ClippersUK on Jan 25, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the irony on Al...
Everyone, including MDsr, want more consistency from Al. During the OKC game, Milph said something like “coach would much rather pencil in Al for 17, than have 29 on game and 5 the next.” But in the Clippers current situation, with so little chance to win games, it’s actually much better to have him up and down. You lose the games he’s down, you might eek out a win when he’s up – 75 points from Gordon and Thornton, Clippers win by 3. They just won’t win a single game, with this lineup, if Al is ‘Mr Consistency’.
When everyone is back, let him be a single hitter then. Right now, we need him swinging for the fences. (Sorry UK, baseball references. I don’t have the background to translate it to cricket, but hopefully you get the idea.)
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jan 25, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I gotcha with the references
The thing about AL is that I don’t think he is getting the best out of his talents. He’s very fast from a standing start, can beat a lot of SF’s off the dribble if he wants to and can slam that ball down. He doesn’t mix his game up nearly enough though, too often settling for that fade away jumper. I’m not sure if he doesn’t like the contact from going to the basket. Lets face it, he doesn’t have the physique of Eric but neither does Durrant and he attacks the rim likes it’s just insulted his mother!!!!
Bingo!
by ClippersUK on Jan 25, 2009 2:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Durant was -7 while Fred Jones was +8
by cliptakular on Jan 24, 2009 10:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
+/- is a load of rubbish for that exact reason
Bingo!
by ClippersUK on Jan 25, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It is interesting....
but flawed. There are a lot of factors that impact it.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Jan 25, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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