Golden State 107 - Clippers 92
Truthfully, this game went about how I suspected it would. I said in the preview that if Marcus Camby couldn't play "the whole thing falls apart." Of course, it's far from clear that the Clippers would have had any chance with Camby - they would still have been missing 6 guys including 3 stars. But without Camby's veteran presence, the young Clippers fell right into the Warriors trap and tried to play the game way too fast.
With the team as thoroughly depleted as they are, there are very few teams that they can even hope to compete with. Obviously Oklahoma City is one of them, and frankly that's the profile of a team the $11M Clippers can beat - very young, and not very good. On the other end of the spectrum, there are a few different types of teams against whom they really have no hope: either a super disciplined team like the Spurs, or a team that will tempt the young and inexperienced Clippers into a track meet, like the Warriors. Camby might have made a difference there, but without him things did indeed fall apart.
Not that DeAndre Jordan had a bad game replacing Camby. He did a very good Camby imitation on the boards, grabbing 20 (the only reason I watched until the end, to be honest - hoping he'd get that magical 20th rebound). But he also tried some ill-advised dunks. He missed three in the first half alone, and all for the same reason - he simply was too far from the basket. It's amazing that he thought he could dunk any of those balls. But he was very active rebounding, and his potential is just through the roof. He's got a long way to go, but he's only 20, so he's got lots of time to get there.
It wasn't just DeAndre reaching for the spectacular play on offense and coming up short. The Clippers attempted at least 3 lobs in the first quarter, and missed on all three. One can only imagine what Don Nelson was thinking watching the Clippers throwing wild half court lobs 3 seconds into the shot clock - something along the lines of 'Sweet' would be my guess.
I don't see a lot of point in discussing this game. The Clippers only had 8 players in uniform, and half of them are barely in the NBA and wouldn't get a minute of playing time were it not for all of the injuries. Gordon and Thornton each had a decent first half, but Al was 0 for 5 in the second, and neither shot well.
As for the Warriors, they are a very tough team to figure. Their two best players, supposedly, are Monta Ellis and Stephen Jackson, but neither of them looked very good in this game. Ellis only played 22 minutes, partly because of foul trouble, but I'm certain that Nelson was only too happy to be able to limit his minutes in his second game back from injury and still win the game easily. Jackson meanwhile shot an abysmal 3 for 14.
The roster on the whole is just plain weird - Andris Biedrins and a bunch of wings. They don't really have a single decent point guard, nor a power forward. Just wings. And that's without Jamal Crawford or Marco Belinelli tonight. It will be very interesting to see how they play the rest of the season. Biedrins is very good - much better than I thought he'd ever be. And there are some talented players and some great shooters on the roster. A little like the Clippers, you just have to wonder how it's all going to fit together - remember, Monta Ellis and Jamal Crawford have still not played a game together. But in the case of the Clippers, I know the theory of how it fits together at least. With the Warriors, I have no idea.
There's no time to dwell on losses in an 82 game season. It would be nice to think that some reinforcements will be available soon, but I really have no idea. I assume Camby remains the most likely to be back. Baron has been talking about Wednesday.
It will certainly be nice to have something resembling a full roster at some point.
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only watched the 4th qtr...
went as most of us expected it to…what was up with the FT attemp by Samb and Novak, and the rest of the guys tried to grab the missed rebound on the FIRST missed attempt!? did they forget this is not the college 1and1 rule?
Anyhow, i got a good laugh at this from the GSOM recap:
Who knows but it wasn’t long ago when many believed our season was a complete bust (maybe some still do)…But I do not want to dwell on the Clipper’s problems. Instead I want to focus on the new era for our Warriors and hope to find others out there as excited as I am for the new look.
"Duck, Crab. Crab, Duck"
Roger Sterling - Mad Men
also,
I think EJ was doing a great job bothering Jackson on his shot…the guy is a great defensive presence…so strong too, to be able to run through some screens and still bother the player…
"Duck, Crab. Crab, Duck"
Roger Sterling - Mad Men
too be honest
i just continue to watch clippers game now to see dj and ej get one of those break out games and also to see them develop, improve and adjust just as how i watched because thornton last year.
wait, now that i think about it… as a clippers fan that’s what i’ve been doing yearly.
i guess besides the miracle of 05-06
by cliptakular on Jan 26, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Hate losing, but especially to GS
We definitely got caught up playing their style, and it was a little disappointing that it even happened to our rookie phenom EJ. That said, he had an off game and still put up a game high 21. Crazy. Totally stoked on DJ’s performance, flawed as it was, it was good to see him bounce back off his lackluster OKC game. Thorton’s Jeckyl & Hyde act continues…
Thornton
Al Thornton got denied so bad by the big homie Ronnie Turiaf!!
B*tch! I GO so hard!!
by ItsDatFriscoSwag415 on Jan 26, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
Thoughts
Gordon-Thornton seemed to do okay. They weren’t really the culprits when GSW turned the game upside down. Thornton disappeared in the 2nd half. Gordon keeps plugging away and makes the team respectable. A lot for him to carry on his shoulders.
Two big problems and letdowns:
Jordan’s missed dunks, the missed lobs, the Clips missing shots at the rim as they went from being 8 points ahead to 10 down and then more. Biedrens was a force in this, but the Clips went through a long drought where they weren’t finishing, getting defended well, but there were a lot of hoops to be had in that stretch. Jordan’s rebound number is only respectable, rather than spectacular, because he didn’t back it up with getting ANY hoops on plays when it counted and he could have stepped up. He’s so quick going up and flying into the air, but he needs to have a better focus on the hoop and a little finesse, and he needs to use his body much better. The Clips could have stayed in this game in a much more meaningful way if Jordan had been just a bit more focused and effective. It’s great that he’s getting minutes.
Get Steve Novak shots. It should be somewhat simple, and the key is not to give up on it. Gordon and Jones and Davis2 need to penetrate and go off screens themselves and say mindful of him, they need to S/R directly with him, everybody has to set picks for him, and they have to get him the ball. After the first wave, Novak is this undermanned squad’s primary weapon. He looked great in the 4th quarter, during garbage time, but the Clips needed to open up the floor and work him and get him shots in the first half. This will be important against Portland tonight. There aren’t that many guys or weapons on the Clippers right now, and Novak happens to be one of the most effective. The Clips can’t get too geeked in Gordon-Thornton and Davis2 can find his offense after he gets Novak his shots.
Okay, let’s take Jordan’s 20 rebounds as a nice milestone. Gordon is fun to watch, and the Brandon Roy matchup tonight should be excellent.
Would you start Ricky Davis or Steve Novak? (If Skinner and Camby can’t play.) I would start Novak. Davis2 needs to be humbled and build his game up from scratch.
Kind of fun to watch Maggette flow nicely, get 20 points on 9 shots, while the Clips pick up a few more ping pong balls.
The warriors are simply the better team
full stregnth or not! They have been injusr riddled all year also. In fact they were missing a few of their studs like Jamal Crawford, Bellinelli and Brandon Wright. In looking at the 2 teams it is clear the Warriors have talent and Clips,,,, well they remain the Clips!
by dungeness crabdribble on Jan 26, 2009 2:42 PM PST reply actions
Dung - is there some point to this?
We get it, you like GS. Congratulations on your win.
for having a crappy team (like your name-dung)
you sure talk a lot of smack.
good thing your not a celtics fan or spurs fan.
leave the drugs alone my friend.
yes, our team sucks too but damn… have some perspective.
Our top 4 are out
We don’t have Baron, Randolph, Camby, and Kaman just to name a few.
Our injured lists could beat the players our team that played your team last game.
Who’d we have on the bench? Steve Novak, Jason Hart, and freakin Cheik Samb
BTW, please refrain yourself for throwing some no name players.
“In fact they were missing a few of their studs like Jamal Crawford, Bellinelli and Brandon Wright.”
Studs?
Do you know what studs mean?
Guys...
Don’t do it…you are being baited.
The Clips will be competitive someday...
I am a Golden State fan, and yeah that was how I expected the game to go. But the when the Clippers have a full roster they will be dangerous. They need to fire Dunleavy!! Bring in a coach that is respected by players and that has a system that the team will buy into. The Clips have talent, Thorton is one of my favorite players, and Gordon is really good. I don’t think that the players like Davis, Randolph, and Camby really buy into whatever “system” Dunleavy has. To me the Warriors have more talent then the Clips, but they are much younger and they need to grow. When healthy the Clips lineup is:
Davis/Gordon/Hart
Thorton/Davis/Jones
Randolph/Thorton/Novak
Kamen/Jordan/Skinner
Camby/Kamen/Samb
That is not a bad starting lineup, but the Clips have to clean up their overall roster a bit. Give Davis some time to gel with that lineup and they can be competitive.

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