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Something is Definitely Up

With the unexpected news that the Clippers have waived Paul Davis and Fred Jones today, something is definitely in the works.  It could be something small, or it could be something big.  But the simple fact of the matter is that a team is required by the NBA to suit up 8 players for a game.  With Kaman, Randolph, Taylor, Baron Davis and Ricky Davis all definitely out for tomorrow night in Dallas, the Clippers would have to put a uniform on Jason Hart just to meet the minimum requirement.  Of course, that still leaves them with two healthy guards on the roster - Eric Gordon and Mardy Collins.  So waiving Davis (who played only 4 minutes yesterday despite being one of the 8 healthy players on the roster) and Jones (who had the misfortune and bad timing of spraining his foot while on a non-guaranteed contract) is likely just making room for some D-League call-ups.  I highly doubt that it's a coincidence that today is the first day that teams can sign players to 10-day contracts.  Before tomorrow night's game, there will probably be two new guards on the team - a couple of guys you've probably barely heard of.  Or maybe it will be done before I finish this post.

Of course, it could be something bigger in the works, with the Clippers clearing roster spots to make room for bodies arriving in a trade.  The New York rumor mill has the Clippers just salivating to send Marcus Camby to the Knicks for nothing.  The Knicks front office has proven to be pretty leaky in the past, so maybe there's something to it.  But the deal that Isola reported (with the Clippers losing Camby and getting Quenton Richardson) wouldn't require an additional roster spot, so if Camby is indeed in play, and today's roster moves are related to an impending deal, the Clippers must be receiving several bodies in return.

Which would raise an even more interesting scenario in Dallas - imagine if a Camby deal goes down, and the Clippers have to play the Mavs without him,  leaving essentially 6 healthy players.  Hart may or may not be able to go, and would certainly be compelled to put on a uniform at least.  We might even see Mike Taylor on the active list, sitting on the bench in his road reds, with a cast on his hand.

UPDATE:  As I suspected might happen, before I've even finished with this post, there's another development.  The Clippers acquired Cheik Samb for a future second rounder.  Which makes no sense at all.  It could fit in as an isolated move along with the waiving of Paul Davis.  Clearly MDsr has given up on Davis2, and maybe he saw a guy he thought could develop down the road and decided to grab him.  More likely this signals that the Camby trade is a reality.  I just don't see making a move for a center if you've got Camby and Skinner and Jordan as 3 of your 8 healthy players.  But if Camby is on the move, maybe you do want another 7 footer.  Bear in mind that MDsr has always had a penchant for keeping project centers around, going back to Boniface N'Dong and Josh Moore.

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Had the same thought about Camby

Did he violate some team rule by playing too hard? If he leaves, this team will make OKC look good.

by ClipCat on Jan 5, 2009 3:11 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not camby!

he and ej are the only two guys that i would play to see a clippers game. plus, i’m thinking of buying a camby jersey…

but, it’d be good for camby if he does go to a contender. it would be nice to see a hard working guy get his reward.

by cliptakular on Jan 5, 2009 3:14 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NY Knicks?

not a contender.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 5, 2009 3:15 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sorry..

didn’t read the whole article… I just saw the parts that Camby was gonna be traded (of course, all speculation).

by the way things our going with our team, even the grass is greener in NY.

by cliptakular on Jan 5, 2009 4:33 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Staying Calm

This is all pretty weird, no? I’m making the effort to remind myself that I was really happy with the Zach Randolph trade before Jake Voskuhl laid him out, and how it seemed outrageous at the time.

As you say, tough luck for Fred Jones—welcome to the Clippers! And Paul Davis has gotten some minutes now and just doesn’t shoot or rebound well enough to be concerned about.

But instead of the excitement of getting Quentin Richardson, Quentin Ross, or Corey Maggette back—that is, all of the wonderful trades being suggested for the benefit of other teams—what makes sense for the Clippers? What would be a good deal for them? A couple of weeks ago it seemed that there was no right answer to the question of trading either Camby or Kaman, so the obvious thing was to keep both of them and try to see Kaman, Camby, and Randolph all playing on the same team. But now no one knows, nothing makes sense. Is there a Kaman deal that works? Is there a team that is dying to add Camby—and what would they give up that would really benefit the Clips? Confusion reigns.

by citizen zhiv on Jan 5, 2009 3:15 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There's only ONE move that makes sense...

fire Dunleavy.

Sorry to say, but it’s true.

by madglove on Jan 5, 2009 3:21 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Really? Seriously?

Would the Clips really be so incompetent as to let Camby go for Q Rich?

There’s no way. Right? You would have to at least get a 1st round pick or a young potential player from the Blzers like this guy who’s name I can’t pronounce but is already a fan favorite in Portland.

by Phoenix Stan on Jan 5, 2009 3:22 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Crikey, who knows?

No way it’s Camby out, Q in. Not unless MDsr is getting a lot of Comcast stock in the deal as well. Picks, prospects (no thanks on Shavlick)… something else would have to be included.

But I’m beginning to think that the NY rumors and the other activity of today are unrelated. The rumors are likely nothing, and everything else happening today is because of the roster cut down date (1/7) and the beginning of 10-day contracts (1/5).

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 5, 2009 4:01 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agree with the Camby rumor

Can’t wait to see what happens with this mess. Dunleavy Jr. is supposed to be back soon, maybe the Dunce can trade for his son now.

Good thing Rick Brunson is retired.

by FireDunleavy.com on Jan 5, 2009 4:04 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

D LEE!!

"Duck, Crab. Crab, Duck"
Roger Sterling - Mad Men

by Lawler's Law on Jan 5, 2009 4:18 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

GM Dunleavy

This just shows how good Dunleavy is at being the GM… he just keeps working.

He should be full-time GM and step down as coach.

by cliptakular on Jan 5, 2009 4:31 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

Cheik Samb is gonna lead the Clippers on a 40 game winning streak.

Real great GM, the team is in the celler, only 2 teams have less wins than the Clippers. I call that a complete disaster, not a good GM. Letting Dunleavy pick the coach would cause even more problems.

by FireDunleavy.com on Jan 5, 2009 4:41 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well

-didn’t he pick gordon, jordan and taylor ?
-Baron Davis (tell me you wouldn’t have done that one )
- get camby

he’s been a good GM, and how could he cause more problems pciking coach remember he already is the coach (and is not particulary good at it)

by XXDC2XX on Jan 5, 2009 4:57 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Brand got BD to come here

Baron Davis didn’t even know who Dunleavy was. The picks in this year’s draft were the right picks. All he did this year was not screw up. It’s not like Gordon is way better than the people ahead of him.

He’s basically been the GM for 6 years and has them in this position. I’m not going to go over all his screw ups again. And he screwed up the Bucks before he got here. It’s best to get him 100% out of the organization.

by FireDunleavy.com on Jan 5, 2009 5:44 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

re:

“Baron Davis didn’t even know who Dunleavy was.”

Losing more cred with each post.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 5, 2009 6:13 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Optimistic Explanation

Ramona’s update http://www.insidesocal.com/clippers/2009/01/a-few-points-of-clarification.html to say that today’s moves are not necessarily part of a planned future trade. I didn’t believe this at first, but maybe the immediate moves really are small.

Could be Dunleavy has seen enough of DJ that he’s ready to send him to the D-League to get some PT. I’ve always though that would be the best thing for DJ, but the Clips need a backup center. Davis3 worked his way out of the rotation, but Samb could easily replace DJ’s minutes until Kaman returns.

That explanation is a lot more understandable and intelligent than a Camby trade for Q even if it included Sergio/Rudy or draft picks.

by ClipCat on Jan 5, 2009 5:57 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not Camby

We do not want to trade Camby or Kaman. I think that this is all about D Jordan and maybe a first round pick (we still have the T-Wolves pick from the Jaric/Cassel trade) for a decent swing man.
I am sure that Camby would like to go to a contender but if he waits till next year, he will be on one

by Fdannymanning on Jan 5, 2009 7:28 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i wouldnt worry too much, ramona clears things up nicely

"Monday afternoon, the club waived forward Paul Davis and recently-signed point guard Fred Jones, in an effort to create some roster flexibility before Wednesday, the date on which all players on the roster have their contracts guaranteed for the rest of the season.

After signing Jones last Sunday, the Clippers were at the maximum of 15 players, meaning all 15 contracts would’ve become guaranteed Wednesday. With a rapidly ballooning injury list -seven players are currently out with injuries - Clippers coach and general manager Mike Dunleavy said the club could not assume such risk.

``Had we not had all these injuries, we might’ve done nothing,‘’ Dunleavy said. ``But with all the guys out, we just figured this would put us in better position, buy us some time to figure out schedules and such.’’

There is a chance one or both of the players waived Monday could be re-signed once they clear waivers on Wednesday afternoon. Of the two, a club source indicated Jones was most likely to return because of the team’s multitude of injuries in the back court……….The conditional pick the Clippers are sending to Denver isn’t until 2015 and is 1-55 protected…………. this has nothing to do with Marcus Camby……………….``Oh yeah, I’m looking to trade 20 rebound (a night) guys every day.’’ Another team source told me that the club has assured Camby not to worry about the recent round of rumors, and that the club values him highly "

by andrewexd on Jan 5, 2009 7:32 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

insidesocal.com/clippers

by andrewexd on Jan 5, 2009 7:32 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would be so mad if Camby got traded.

He and EJ are the only Clippers worth watching at this point.

by WestsideBrandon on Jan 6, 2009 5:01 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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