Two realistic trade scenarios

by citizen bob on Jan 8, 2009 12:09 AM PST

I have been scanning a few other blog sites and I have come across two trades that I personally would go for if the opportunity presents itself. As we all know this site has the smartest basketball minds, I am curious to see what Clipper Nation thinks of these trades (and for a change it does not involve Kaman).

Option 1: Baron Davis for Steve Nash.

Option 2: Baron Davis for Rafer Alston and Shane Battier.

Personally, I would go with Steve Nash. Apparently he is very unhappy that Phoenix traded his mate Raja Bell and sent away Mike Dantoni. Nash would be a perfect fit for us. He may be one of the few PG’s that can understand Dunleavy’s system. He may not want to stay after his contract expires, but this will only give us cap flexibility in 2010. It was almost unanimous on the Phoenix blog site that their fans would go with this trade. It reunites Baron with Jason Richardson and gives Phoenix a real boost in morale. The benefit for the Clippers is obvious.

Option 2 would also be desirable. Alston is a good PG and Battier is a solid backup SF/SG. This would solve our problems at PG and finally give our bench some depth.

What does everybody else think?

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1. Baron has 5 more years left on his contract. I want to see what this team can do when its fully healthy before trading away our “franchise player”. And to trade him away for Steve Nash would be stupid. Nash is old and on the downside of his career. He definately wont stay on past ’10. Who are we gonna sign with that 2010 cap space anyways.. Lebron-No, D-Wade-No, Amare-Doubt it. Theres a reason the Suns fans unanimously want this trade.

2. Baron is in a slump but he is still better than these two players combined. Plus that would give Houston a starting lineup of..
PG-Davis
SG-McGrady
SF-Artest
PF-Scola/Landry
C-Yao

That is dangerous

by C's Up on Jan 8, 2009 1:10 AM PST reply actions

I don't think trading for Nash would be stupid...

Yes he’s old…. old men do well in the Dunleavy system though.

He’s smart, he could probably learn Dunleavy’s 5,001 plays.

He comes off in 2010…so does Camby. We’re back in some sort of free agent race.

We then will have a core of ZBO in contract year, EJ, AT, Kaman…

by Newton Pham on Jan 8, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions

Realistic?

Which Suns site likes trading Nash for Baron? I have not seen that.

None of us are inside of Steve Kerr’s head, but I can’t imagine him trading for Baron. The Suns have been battling their payroll for so many years, it’s inconceivable to me that they would sign up for four more seasons of Baron Davis at $13M+ per.

At any rate, trading Baron is a difficult proposition. He’s 29, he’s having the worst season of his career by far, and he’s signed through 2013. The Clippers best course right now, as C’s up alludes to above, is to stick with it and hope that he starts to play better.

If they were to give up on him, I think the only trade that might make sense is a straight salary dump to a contender who feels they need a point guard. Without putting a lot of effort into it, think Baron for Lamar – Lakers get an upgrade at the point, Kobe has mentioned Baron in the past, Clippers get Lamar’s expiring contract. Or Baron for Raef LaFrentz. If the Clippers decide signing Baron was a mistake, the best thing is to just get out, I think. Alston and Battier? I like Battier fine, but Alston is the only starting point guard in the NBA shooting worse than Baron. At least his contract expires in 2010, so there is some cap relief.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Jan 8, 2009 9:18 AM PST reply actions

Don't reward the behavior

He can’t go to the Lakers. Or Golden State.

The Clippers played nice with Sam Cassell and look where that got them. No asset for Cassell and they didn’t get their first choice of PF either.

Baron Davis to the Thunder for Watson and Wilcox. You can look to flip Wilcox for a mid-level wing immediately.

Get me BD and 75 and I'm in

by John R on Jan 8, 2009 9:35 AM PST up reply actions

LOL - this is MDSr's baby - surprised that you want to jettison your guy's savior signing so quick

by Jax on Jan 8, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions

I wanted him gone after about game 2, remember?

Another single line comment from our single line thinker. Jeez no wonder you have such a hard time communicating with me. You don’t seem to have a memory whatsoever.

The stats told the story at the time, and the story remains the same today. I mean, Mardy Collins is playing just about as well as him at the point.

But what makes him MDSr’s baby? He signed him? What a peculiar claim to make! I think MDSr, and all right thinking Clippers fans were excited about the Baron Davis signing. Then they were more excited for the show vs the Lakers in pre-season. I think a more accurate claim that Elton Brand, and now Zach Randolph was his savior signing and his baby. Baron Davis was to be a gift to Elton Brand.

Get me BD and 75 and I'm in

by John R on Jan 8, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions

Brevity is the soul of wit

The fact that you want to jettison MDSr’s signing is an admission on your part that MDSr’s choice (or as MDSr described him, an “elite point guard”) was wrong.
Now the Clippers are on the hook to BD for $65 M and five years. Even you can’t be happy with that mistake.

by Jax on Jan 8, 2009 7:58 PM PST up reply actions

Actually

Many of us, including CS, were rightfully concerned from the get go that BD’s free-flowing style would not mesh with MDSr’s slow, plodding, boring, inept style. (CS didn’t describe MDSr’s style as inept, of course).

BD is indeed MDSr’s baby. MDSr was the coach and the GM (de facto at the time).

But I guess we’re not self-described “right thinking Clippers fans” like you.

by Jax on Jan 8, 2009 8:03 PM PST up reply actions

no

baron has proved he’s a great player throughout his career and he’s been banged up all season, and I still want to see him play next year with all our injuries gone and perhaps dunleavy gone and he can play how he wants.

nash is falling off, that’s a bad trade because nash is very similar to Baron’s playin style and like i said Nash is on the dowside of his career.

The second one is O.K. but we’d need to get a lot more value if we’re going to trade our 5 year 65 million player. Maybe Baron for T-mac —doubt it

by baronycamby on Jan 8, 2009 9:45 AM PST reply actions

lmao

nash for baron?

you think nash wants to play in Dunleavy’s system? Nash is as much run n gun as Baron. He is unhappy in Porter’s system so you think he’ll be happy to be in Dunleavy’s?

by saintdee on Jan 8, 2009 12:34 PM PST reply actions