Day Four of Training Camp - Really Quick Thoughts
by Steve Perrin on Oct 2, 2009 1:25 PM PDT
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I've got about 10 minutes. I'll try to get you some info, and will give you some more details tonight.
Keep an eye on the You Tube channel for the Clippers - you can see MDsr's comments there when they are posted, which should be pretty soon.
Still no Blake Superior, and he's officially a scratch for Sunday's game in Oakland, for any of you fans up there.
We got to see more of the Blue vs. White scrimmage today, which was good.
The White team consisted of Kaman, Jordan, Novak, Collins, Gordon, Roberson and Thornton (although Al did not play while I was watching). Blue was the rest of the healthy guys, but as with Thornton, Camby wasn't playing when I was watching. It's a combination of wanting to see some other guys, and letting them rest a little. Neither of them are hurt.
White won, mostly on the inside strength of DJ and Kaman. That's when I noticed that Camby wasn't out there - when I saw Craig Smith giving away like 6 inches to DJ. Skinner and Smith just couldn't hang with the bigs on the white team.
Jordan looked great, by the way. Not that he made a single move, but when he's active on both ends, he's just a force. He was rebounding, blocking shots and just making things happen. MDsr once again heaped praise on him in his comments as well.
Baron looked good for blue, penetrating and getting to the rim almost any time he wanted to. Unfortunately for him, either DJ or Kaman was usually waiting there.
EJ ran the point some for white while we were watching, which was interesting. Even when he and Mardy were on the floor together, EJ handled the ball some. Check out MDsr's comments on the question of EJ at the one when the video is posted. It's something they're working on, still considering.
After practice broke up, Baron stayed and went through shooting drills with John Lucas. And Lucas was working him too. Baron is putting in the time, that much is evident.
Griffin, although he's being held out of contact, is able to work out and to shoot. Like Baron, he was shooting for a long time after practice. Fred Vinson has his mechanics looking much better. In that sense, it's not as if Griffin is missing crucial time right now. We know he's in phenomenal shape so that's not a problem, and yes, we'd like to have him working on the sets and defensive rotations with his teammates, but he's watching and listening on all of that, and his hoops IQ is very high, so he'll pick that up. And if he is getting his shooting practice in, then he's moving forward in his development.
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I guess telfair is not traveling w/ the team
From my understanding, it’s just a sprain?
See told you guys EJ will run PG,
as far as BG it’s better for us to have the first sight of him at our home not in the BAY AREA. Plus he will have more time to recoup.
Everything starts out New, Gets Old and Dies or is Destroyed.
Blakes timeline is starting to extend...
Why is it that players are injured for longer than estimated by the Clipper trainers?
On other teams players come back BEFORE they are expected.
HVYDR – not “being negative” just pointing it out.
No worries,
they are just not taking chances with BG which is good, we do not want him to go down like Danny and waste all that potential and don’t get me wrong I am not the best advocate of Jasen Powell.
Everything starts out New, Gets Old and Dies or is Destroyed.
In due time
BG could play, but since its preseason they’re going to be extra cautious with their #1 pick. If you recall, Steve mentioned that Blake got in trouble for jumping 5 feet in the air. I’m sure he’s fine and will play on Friday (10/9).
On a side note, i wonder if BG will catch on similarly to KG, TO, or even LT
+1 on BG for Blake Griffin's nickname.
Everything starts out New, Gets Old and Dies or is Destroyed.
-1 for "BG"
although initials are a sign of been a star can’t we be a little me creative? I’m not that big a fan of Blake Superior but a least it has some thought invested.
Sometimes it works
As long as he doesn’t give himself his own nickname then I’m good.
So he cant be the black mamba?
We gotta have some cool titles like the Mailman, the Landlord or something left. Or something that rhymes, aka The Snake, the Snowflake, the HeadFake, the CupCake. Ok, scrapping the bottom of the barrel here but we got years go give him a worthy nickname.
FA in 2010.
If you have witnessed an NBA practice you would see,
the coaches use the players initials so that is why just BG is ideal to use it also just rolls off the tongue and oh ya it is easy to type.
I also like Blake-N-Dunk but who am I to say.
Everything starts out New, Gets Old and Dies or is Destroyed.
5-6 Days
Wasn’t that what Dunleavy originally said?
Not sure why you're saying it's extending...
There hasn’t really been any official timeline, has there? MDsr said 5 or 6 days at one point on Tuesday, so we certainly haven’t reached that yet. So I’m not sure what it is that you’re pointing out.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
These reports
…are awesome.
So, for the record, Baron was playing with Skinner, Smith, Butler, not Camby, Kareem Rush, and who am I missing?
Doesn’t seem fair.
Jerel McNeal
McNeal was with Blue. and no, it wasn’t fair.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Link
http://www.nba.com/clippers/features/lawlerslaw.html" >
Everything starts out New, Gets Old and Dies or is Destroyed.
Gordon has no business running the point
He’s not a PG in any form. His doesn’t handle the ball well enough.
There’s also a video from today on youtube or the teams facebook. Dunleavy says he doesn’t see Gordon getting any minutes at PG.
Yeah
It’s not ideal, I think they’re trying him out as a 3rd string PG. I’d expect him and/or Mardy to play the point as much as Jason Hart did last year give or take.
In the vid on YouTube MDSr said he would play PG
Also he played PG all through high school and he played some last season.
Everything starts out New, Gets Old and Dies or is Destroyed.
He played very little point guard last season
the only game I remember is a few minutes in the game at Indiana
by Michael White on Oct 2, 2009 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Mardy ran the point three times more then JHart last season.
Everything starts out New, Gets Old and Dies or is Destroyed.
Any reason to why Al was sitting out or did it just happen to be the timing when you were around?
by dulciusEXasperis on Oct 2, 2009 5:43 PM PDT reply actions
Either timing
or they just wanted to see other guys out there. Nothing wrong with Al.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Some more details?
What happened to the expanded report. Now they’re we’re getting the steady flow of info, we’re greedy.
LDillman had a nice conversation with Eric Gordon, where he talks about focusing on getting to the free throw line. What he’s really saying is that as a rookie he never got any calls, often to an egregious degree, and now he’s hoping to get a little respect.
What it makes me think of is the way that Blake Griffin is going to get pushed around this year. As bad as things were for Gordon, Griffin is going to be in there with the big boys and they won’t be shy about being physical with him. Might be interesting to look at the ft stats on KG as a rookie, or some of the other comps.
Made me curious
So I looked up KG’s stats on basketball-reference.com and calculated his free throw attempts per minute played. The numbers jump significantly after his first year and then again by his sixth year. Last year is the only exception to the trend (probably due to his injury). EJ actually got more than twice as many free throw attempts per minute played than KG did during his first year, but I’m sure there’s lots of other factors at play.
Kevin Garnett
Season MP FTA FT/MP
1995-96 2293 149 0.06
1996-97 2995 272 0.09
1997-98 3222 332 0.10
1998-99 1780 206 0.12
1999-00 3243 404 0.12
2000-01 3202 467 0.15
2001-02 3175 448 0.14
2002-03 3321 502 0.15
2003-04 3231 465 0.14
2004-05 3121 549 0.18
2005-06 2957 489 0.17
2006-07 2995 498 0.17
2007-08 2328 336 0.14
2008-09 1772 132 0.07
Eric Gordon
Season MP FTA FT/MP
2008-09 2677 350 0.13
DeAndre for MFP - Most Funniest Player
I think the better comps would be Karl Malone, Amare, TD, Okafor and Howard
Those guys have more similar styles, KG has always been more of a high post big so his FT rate was always pretty low. I recall Minnesota was always near the bottom of the league in FTAs in part to this style.
FA in 2010.
Couple questions
How long is the daily practice? How many reporters are there every day? Who is there every day?
Answers
Training camp has been two-a-days – 9 AM to noon and 5:30 to 7:30, Mon thru Fri. No contact in the afternoon. I’m sure the simple fact o 5 hours of basketball a day for 4 straight days had something to do with Marcus Camby (36?) taking the day off today.
Today was the last day of camp, but I was coach Steve for the soccer playing young’uns. (boys won 5-1, girls lost 1-3.) Only one practice today, 10 to noon.
I was there every day this week before today, including the media day at Staples. Lisa was there everyday, including today judging from her Tweets. (Does everyone have her Twitter, btw? @reallisa.) Pincus covers the Lakers also, so he was at Media Day and again on Friday, but missed the other morning sessions. Of course, he might have been at the PM practices. KA was there Tues, Fri.
The broadcast guys are in and out. I’ve seen Dain Blanton a couple times, Michael Eaves, Don MacLean, etc. Brian Siemens is there every day, as is Ralph. Michael Smith less so.
It has never really been a huge group – as few as Lisa and myself, as many as maybe six. Counting the broadcasters, it was a pretty big crowd yesterday.
I don’t take an actual paper anymore, but my dad seems to think the Clippers are getting more ink, more column inches, better placement, etc. than he ever remembers in pre-season (this would be in the LAT). Any fish wrap subscribers out there care to confirm or refute?
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
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