Clippers vs. Oklahoma City - Game Preview
2009/2010 NBA Regular Season
vs.
3-5 3-4
Staples Center
November 11th, 2009, 7:30 PM
Prime Ticket, 980 AM
Probable starters:
Baron Davis
PG
Russell Westbrook
Rasual Butler
SG
Thabo Sefolosha
Al Thornton
SF
Kevin Durant
Marcus Camby
PF
Jeff Green
Chris Kaman
C
Nenad Krstic
The Back Story:
First meeting of the season. Clippers won the season series last year 3-1 (first time I've written that this year - it didn't happen much).
The Big Picture:
The Clippers found out yesterday that they'll be without Eric Gordon for at least 10 days, and tonight they'll get another taste of what life without EJ is like. The first time was not a lot of fun. The Clippers have lots of experience playing without key players the last few years, but of course that's not particularly unusual in the NBA. If Houston can win games while missing a couple of guys making $20M each, shouldn't the Clippers be able to win while missing a couple of 20 year old kids? Heck, Sacramento is winning without Kevin Martin, and he's all they had. CMDsr has said, in a sort of a backhanded insult, that the knock on him is that he can't win when his players are hurt. It's a way of innoculating himself against criticism for the debacle of the last two seasons - but it's not an acceptable position. The Clippers are probably staring at six more games without Gordon, and a dozen without Griffin, and who knows who else will go down in the interim. But this stretch of the schedule is exacly when the Clippers need to make headway, against a bunch of non-playoff teams. If the attitude going in is, "Too bad we don't have our guys, at least nobody expects us to win" then of course they won't. Besides, all of the players in the Clippers starting lineup were full time starters last year, so there's no reason they can't win this game. They'll need a big game and leadership from Baron Davis, and another big game from Chris Kaman.
The Antagonist:
Oklahoma City lost in Sacramento last night in a game that came down to the buzzer. Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook and Jeff Green all played big minutes in that one, so the Clippers caught a break there. The Thunder have been pretty solid so far this season. Until tonight, their losses had come against good teams, and they've mostly been close, including taking the Lakers into Overtime. Nonetheless, after winning their first two games of the season, they've lost four out of five. The Thunder are the only team the Clippers beat three times last season - but all those good memories were completely washed away by the 41 point beatdown they put on the Clippers in the final game of the season, on LA's Fan Appreciation Night. I for one did not appreciate it. Kevin Durant has become one of the toughest players in the league to defend, and Jeff Green and Russell Westbrook have talent. But it seems to me these guys are still a couple years away from competing.
The Subplots:
- Playoff hopefuls? Of the six Western Conference teams under .500 last season, most analysts picked either the Clippers or the Thunder to have the best chance to break into the post-season if two or more of the over .500 teams stumbled. How they play against each other in two games over the next five days will be a good indicator of which one of these teams is closer to being ready.
- Defending Durant. I watched much of the Kings-Thunder on NBA League Pass Broadband tonight (NBALP is a good thing, and the league was nice enough to provide if for the SBNation basketball group, which is a nice perk of this gig). Andres Nocioni did a good job on Durant, crowding him and playing him physically - and the guy still went for 37, including 18 for 18 from the line. Who on the Clippers will get this assignment? Will it be Butler or Thornton? I assume it will be Butler, as it was on Rudy Gay on Saturday. But I'm concerned that neither of them can actually defend the guy. Is it time for a Mardy Collins sighting? Mardy at least has the mean streak that I think you need in order to bother Durant some.
- Westbrook. Russell Westbrook had been shooting much better in his first six games (almost 49%) than he did last season (under 40%). But when I watched him tonight, he struggled as much as ever to make shots, going 3 for 13 in the game and missing several makeable shots down the stretch that might have changed the outcome of the game. He also had a problem with turnovers last year, and there he's continued to have issues, averaging 5 a game to start the season. But he's a spectacular athlete, with amazing quickness. You can see why people like him - every time you watch him, he does something impressive. But he needs to figure out how to help his team win.
- Litmus Test for Advanced Stats. During the pre-season, Henry Abbott of TrueHoop caused a mini-stir by posting about the fact that Kevin Durant's plus/minus numbers were actually among the worst on his team, despite his phenomenal scoring and PER. We've discussed some of the issues with plus/minus - it's a flawed metric at best. Nonetheless, there's something there. Certainly Durant's defense during his first two seasons was poor to non-existent, and he'll need to improve there. It's also possible that his Thunder do more standing around and watching when he's on the floor, just expecting that he'll take the shot. Truthfully, I don't know what to think about the plus/minus enigma of Durant. But I'll tell you this - if Kevin Durant gets in foul trouble tonight and has to come out of the game, I'll be happy, not sad.
- Front court. Depending on how he handles the inevitable double teams, Chris Kaman should really have his way tonight. Nenad Krstic has never been known for his defense, Jeff Green is undersized at the four, and there aren't any bigs on the Thunder bench to slow him either (Etan Thomas, Serge Ibaka, Nick Collison). Hopefully Mr. Flippy has been banished again after his second-half appearance on Monday, because we need Kaman 3.0 tonight, and I don't see anyone on the Oklahoma City roster who can slow him down one-on-one. On the other hand, Jeff Green is not the kind of matchup Marcus Camby likes.
- UCLA Point Guards. Baron Davis and Russell Westbrook played at UCLA, about 8 years apart. Baron doesn't seem to have the explosive athleticism anymore that Westbrook thrives on, but Baron has shown flashes this year of his old self. This game may turn on who gets the better of the point guard matchup.
- Butler and Thornton. Rasual Butler supplanted Al Thornton as the Clippers' starting small forward after four games, but two things are clear; (1) they're both starting now in the absence of Gordon and (2) neither one of them has been particularly good. Thornton is shooting 37% on the season; Butler 39%. Thornton's PER is 8; Butler's is 9. Both of these guys need to start playing well if the Clippers are going to have a chance in games without Eric Gordon. The most telling stat about Thornton is this: other than Kareem Rush, who has yet to score this season, Thornton is averaging the fewest points per minute of any Clipper this season. This is a guy whose raison d'être is scoring. He's never done it particularly efficiently, but he's always done it. His confidence is clearly shot right now, and he needs to find it. He knows he's in the lineup for the next six games. Maybe that will take the pressure off and he can play some basketball.
- Some good injury news for a change. Craig Smith took a finger in the eye during the fourth quarter of the Hornets game, sort of typifying the Clippers night. He got a cut on his eye, but it's not too bad, and although he sat out practice yesterday, he should be available to play tonight.
- Shaun Livingston. Our old pal Shaun Livingston is on the Thunder, but he's only played 20 minutes of garbage time on the season. He wasn't even on the active list last night. I really thought that he was going to be able to help this team. Perhaps he's not 100% recovered yet. Perhaps he won't ever be the player he was. Perhaps he was never as good as the idea of him in the first place.
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Movie Quote:
Batty - Blade Runner (1982). Myriad reasons I went with this quote when I found it. For one, Blade Runner is a great movie, and I love Ridley Scott films. For another, I just re-watched it the other day. (I watched the director's cut, and I know that Scott famously didn't want the film noir Harrison Ford narration, but having now watched the movie without it, I have to say that I think it added to the film. It's actually hard to know - you can't unwatch what you've already seen, so it's not as if I missed all of that exposition. But I gotta figure that the original audience would have been pretty lost in the director's cut had Scott won his battle with the studio.) Finally, the quote is a variation on a line from a William Blake epic poem, and I felt like we needed another William Blake reference after Citizen Zhiv brought him up last month.Fiery the angels fell. Deep thunder rolled around their shoulders... burning with the fires of Orc.
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Durant is such a tough matchup
Isn’t he 6 10 at least?
He's listed at 6'9 but he's a long 6'9 that's for sure.
He went 9-23 last night but still finished with 37 points (18-18 from the line). He’s going to get his points no matter what, but if Thornton can keep him from shooting well, then he did his job (defensively).
by dulciusEXasperis on Nov 11, 2009 7:05 AM PST up reply actions
Well Kings are on a nice little roll here.
Beat the Thunder (without K-Mart) last night and are now at .500
Gives me hope that we SHOULD be them tonight.
by dulciusEXasperis on Nov 11, 2009 6:58 AM PST reply actions
Both teams are out for blood
The Clippers got embarrassed on their home court & the Thunder lost to the Kings so both teams have something to prove tonight. This is a big game for the Clippers who need to show they can win without Gordon because we do get these guys in another 5 days in Oklahoma City with a tough game against the Raptors in the meantime. Oy, Baron really needs to bring it tonight and hopefully he will playing a younger UCLA student that he doesn’t want to get shown up by.
OKC favored by 2 1/2 pts for tonights
Tough game to gage, Al and Butler had a difficult time containing Gay and Durant is a far better scorer. Clips were rolled out of the building on Monday and OKC lost a close one tonight. OKC has been playing w/ more passion over the first couple games. Hmmmm, tough one to call. I’ll give it to the OKC by 7pts. They’ll just want the ball more than us during crunch time.
Butler as a 6Th. Man tonight,
I feel that Butlers lack of Effort on Defense and his “Deer in Headlights” play on offense earns him a Bench roll tonight. We should start Mardy at the 2, he may not give us much Offense but he will defend and give 110% every Second he’s on the floor. As far as AT covering Durantula he will do a good job like he has in the past.
My Starting 5 for tonight,
BD
Mardy
AT
Camby
Kaman
Tonight the Clippers break out the Black Flag on the Durantula just like ORKIN.

Everything starts out New, Gets Old and Dies or is Destroyed.
Will one regular-sized can work?
Or should you invest in a special extra-lanky 6’9 size?
Also Known as "4D" one step beyond 3D
I may or may not be
stealing that picture.
My fantasy team is The Durantulas.
by ElectricPencils on Nov 11, 2009 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
The first Time I saw Blade Runner
it was the directors cut, and I definitely thought it was a little bit difficult to watch. I agree with Steve, the narrated version is definitely the way to go if you haven’t yet seen it.
Getting back to basketball, I am interested to see how the Clips respond tonight. Durant is definitely going to be a challenge, but I like Thornton’s athleticism. Sometimes a tough defensive challenge against a big time player is a good motivator, and might be just the spark Al needs to get going.
The Clips need to win the battle in the paint. Rebounding and points in the paint are two areas the Clippers should have an advantage and they definitely need to capitalize. I hope to see us post Baron and Kaman early and often.
Through 8 games the clippers have missed 65 free throws. We might want to shore that up.
Interesting on Blade Runner
I’m sure that Ridley Scott feels like it’s catering to the masses, descending to the lowest common denominator. But the movie is pretty dense, and I just feel like the experience would be diminished if you couldn’t figure out what was going on. Most people I know first saw it with the narration – so it’s interesting to know that you were confused when you saw the director’s cut.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Nov 11, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
Tips from Sactown
Keep Westbrook and Green off thier games and try to keep Durant under 40. That was our plan and it barely worked, (though we outplayed them in almost every aspect – just turned it over 21 times [kids])
Westbrook is easy to control most nights, stay in his face and he’ll stay outside and keep shooting 35%, leave him open and he’ll hit a lot of shots (obvious but) and go to the hole for easy ones. Green also relies on his outside game, harrass him out there and he’s only marginally effective in the paint.
So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii
Thanks, Sac-Man
If you don’t mind, how on earth are you guys .500? (Who do we need to shut down when we play you).
I'd like to see Kaman step up his game tonight
Seems he had a “let down” performance last game after he grew content with the WC award. maybe get Rhino involved more if Camby is ineffective. maybe let Rhino start and bring Camby off the bench.
Starters: Bench
Baron Bassy
Rasual Ricky
Al Camby
Rhino DJ
Kaman
With this lineup, we can exploit OKC’s frontline
OKC fan here
I gotta say the Thunder are great some nights and really crappy on other nights. Look at our last two games, beating the Magic by 28 then loosing to the Kings by 3. Anyway, if the Thunder bring their “A” game expect a tough match.
I’m expecting their “A” game tonight. They are coming off of a tough loss to an underrated team, so they will be looking for blood tonight. Also, Harden and Westbrook will be playing in front of family and friends tonight since they are both L.A. natives. Russell’s b-day is tomorrow, so he will likely have more friends and family attending than he normally would.
Also Known as "4D" one step beyond 3D
i don't think they will bring the A game
they will be tired, their big 3 play lot’s of minutes yesterday.
Blade Runner
One of my all-time favorite movies. The narration was utter garbage, Ford did it crappily on purpose hoping the studio wouldn’t use it. The Final Cut, pretty damn close to being “the perfect movie”.
by Gordon for President on Nov 11, 2009 6:20 PM PST reply actions
Wow...
A strong opinion. But don’t you think that at least some back story is lost without the narration? Did you watch it first without the narration?
Harrison Ford is not the best actor ever certainly. But I liked the noir-y, Marlowe-esque nature of the voice over. I dunno. Maybe I’m just not very sophisticated. But if you hadn’t read Philip K. Dick, I just don’t think you would have known he significance of much of it.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Nov 11, 2009 6:51 PM PST up reply actions
Lack of a better choice?
I feel so bad thinking Blade Runner is over-rated, but I do. Love Philip K., but I always fall asleep at Blade Runner.
Maybe because there aren’t any good Philip K. Dick film adaptions?
Or maybe there re so few “thinking fan’s” sci-fi films out there.
Gattaca
5th Element
Solaris
2001
Alien
any thing else?
by Citizen Roy G Biv on Nov 11, 2009 7:22 PM PST up reply actions
Harrison Ford is definitely up there, acting wise.
But he’s really not the best part of Blade Runner. What does it for me is the question of identity. You don’t really need to know the back story to really get it. It’s basically just the question of life, who has the authority to say who lives and who doesn’t?
The best part though is the Replicants only crime is wanting to live. It’s heavy stuff…and the soundtrack is AMAZING.
by Gordon for President on Nov 13, 2009 9:55 AM PST up reply actions

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