Allen Iverson and the Clippers - A Retrospective
Now that the Allen Iverson era in Memphis is officially over, I wanted to revisit the discussions surrounding Iverson and the Clippers this summer.
I was sitting courtside at a summer league game, a few yards from Mike Dunleavy and Neil Olshey, when the Iverson to the Clippers rumor first started making the rounds. I sauntered over to ask the brain trust if there was any truth to it, and they responded with mock surprise, essentially saying "Don't believe everything you hear."
Of course, after Lisa Dillman's original 'very serious talks' article was published, MDsr fessed up that yes, they had an interest in AI, although his version of the discussions seemed much less serious.
When I first heard about it, I jumped to a conclusion: "It only makes sense on one level.... selling tickets." It seemed that this idea was being driven by non-basketball reasons.
Well, it didn't take long for other reporters to jump to the same conclusion. A piece by Adrian Wojnaroski probably summed up the general consensus best: this whole thing is so crazy and ill-conceived, it has to be Donald Sterling's idea.
Sterling is hell-bent on dysfunction. Everyone walked out of the Thomas & Mack Center late Monday so impressed with the Clippers’ young cornerstones, Griffin and Gordon. Yet, Sterling, sitting courtside, couldn’t see the truth unfolding before his eyes. Iverson is a bad investment for the Clippers. Iverson is a shell of himself now, and worst of all, he’s the last to know.
But for myself and Woj, it was all just speculation. Although he quoted a 'rival GM', he did not purport to have any Clippers sources saying that signing Iverson was a mandate from Sterling to boost ticket sales. It was just what seemed to him (and other GMs apparently) to be the logical explanation, and he didn't imply otherwise.
The same cannot be said for Mitch Lawrence of the New York Daily News. He quoted a 'Clipper executive' on the Iverson situation saying "It's out of control. This is owner-driven." So there it was - the smoking guy. Stupid, terrible, horrible Donald Sterling was the one to blame for the whole Iverson thing.
Except it turns out that was not the case at all.
MDsr told Bill Plaschke of the LA Times that the Clippers interest in Iverson was completely the coach's idea. "There was talk that Iverson was Sterling's idea, a way to juice ticket sales, but Dunleavy acknowledges that it was him. 'The guy is a great player, he's a warrior,' said Dunleavy." I asked the coach myself point blank during training camp about the "owner-driven" quote, and he told me that it was completely untrue.
In fact, anyone who assumed that Sterling was behind the idea has a poor understanding of DTS' particular dysfunctions. Yes, he's a difficult owner who has in the past meddled in the running of the team without much understanding of the basketball situation. But he's pretty consistently been a 'keep the payroll' low kind of guy as we're all aware. He's made a lot of money with this basketball team, not by investing in it, but by keeping his costs down while the value of league-wide things like TV contracts and merchandise have increased. The idea of him investing several million dollars in Allen Iverson, in hopes of getting a return on that investment at the box office is completely inconsistent with how he has run the team. He'd much rather save the salary, and hope that the tickets sell anyway. I made this point when some citizens were arguing for MDsr's ouster last summer based on a return on investment (ROI) business case - trying to convince DTS that he'd make more in increased ticket sales by firing Dunleavy (and eating his guaranteed salary) is a tough sale. Sterling would rather control the things he can control - that means paying one coach at a time, and it doesn't mean signing an aging superstar to a multi-million dollar contract when the roster was already pretty full.
But rather than try to understand the situation, the national media tend to just adopt a simplistic "It's the Clippers" response to whatever happens. If the behavior can be described in terms of mismanagement, regardless of whether it actually makes sense, that's what the media will do. Heck, I did it myself in my immediate reaction to the rumor when I assumed it was all to sell tickets. (In my defense, it was an off the cuff comment in a game thread and I pretty quickly backed off that position when I thought about it some more.)
There are a couple of ironies in the aftermath. One is that study after study has shown that one and only one thing affects home attendance - winning basketball games. So hypothetically which player should you sign to sell more tickets, Allen Iverson or Ramon Sessions? Answer: the one that will help you win more basketball games. It is in fact never a choice between basketball and ticket sales - making the team better is always the best way to sell tickets.
The other is that in retrospect, contrary to their reputation as a hapless organization, the Clippers handled the Iverson situation exactly correctly. You can agree or disagree with having any interest in the first place, but MDsr felt like Iverson was an option backing up both guard spots for LA (remember, this is before Sebastian Telfair joined the team). He wanted to know if Iverson would be willing to come off the bench, and asked him straight out during a phone conversation. From that conversation, the coach knew that it wasn't going to work out, and the flirtation was over. Iverson never even came to LA for a face-to-face meeting.
It's now pretty obvious that Memphis never had that conversation. Iverson was complaining about being a sub after his first game as a Grizzly. As Chris Herrington of the Memphis Flyer wrote a couple of weeks ago, "You know it's getting bad when your organization makes the Clippers look professional by comparison."
Now that Iverson is back on the market, and the Clippers starting shooting guard is injured, would LA consider bringing him in? No. Nothing has really changed. Eric Gordon is going to be back in 3 games, and there will be 68 more to play. If Allen Iverson was not a good idea in July when we suspected he would be a disruptive presence in a reserve role, he's a far worse idea now that the Memphis debacle has removed all doubt.
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How about a Ramon Sessions retrospective
I can’t believe we spent the better part of a month on a back up PG.
Re: AI – just say NO! He has clearly stated that he wants to start. It won’t happen here. He is very disrputive.
A team like Boston, San Antonio or Miami, with a clear heirarchy in place, would be the best place for him. He can only do minimal damage there.
Dallas, too. They could use more scoring. But, with all of these teams, it will have to be off of the bench. There aren’t a lot of starting opportunities for an undersized two-guard right now.
Do not worry. (Matthew 6:27)
by mikey p on Nov 18, 2009 12:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Cleveland might be a good spot for him too
-Contender check
-Starting position check, i doubt Parker would have a problem
-Even more help for LeBron check
-Attitude like SJax, who CLE had interest in check (they might even get more)
…i wonder what he would do next to Jennings while Redd is out? Redd could even play the SF when he returns and let AI keep the SG spot
by KidJustin on Nov 18, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good idea
Sessions has been underwhelming, hasn’t he? We get to see him again in the next phase of the palindrome I think, but I wasn’t very impressed in the tiny bit that I’ve seen so far. Flynn seems to be the guy, beginning middle and ending, in Minnesota, and Sessions is just a backup. But I could be wrong about that.
Perhaps the thing to consider is point guards in general, where there’s always a lot of activity. Steve Nash is defying age, Chris Paul has a significant injury (open All-Star game spot), not sure what’s up with Deron Williams but Utah has lost more games than I would have expected. BDavis looks much better, especially if we forget about last night.
I wouldn’t mind seeing somebody else do the work and break all of this down. With regards to the month-long Sessions “chase,” and also while we saw Collison and Bobby Brown and others hurt the Clips last night, it would be interesting to get a better sense of how Telfair is shaping up as a backup, and what he needs to do to improve.
And btw, you also have teams where the backup is starting alongside the presumptive starter, as in Portland, and the same thing appears to be working quite well in Sacramento, with Udrih and Evans playing together. And we’ve now figured out that Evans should be playing alongside Restbwook, but also should note that Wussell was shooting well last night.
by citizen zhiv on Nov 18, 2009 3:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
'Eric Gordon is going to be back in 3 games'
Is this confirmed or just speculation?
by C's Up on Nov 18, 2009 12:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Just going off the original date
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Nov 18, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Based on the ten day timeline
Wouldn’t he be back for Friday’s game against Denver?
by C's Up on Nov 18, 2009 1:15 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
That's the 10th day...
Remember that they made the 10 day estimate the day after he’d missed his first game.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Nov 18, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
As far as I can tell it can not get worse then Rasual Butler at the 2 Guard.
As much as I was against getting AI at first now I say why not, what do we have to loose? if games, well we are doing that now.
Everything starts out New, Gets Old and Dies or is Destroyed.
by HVYDRT007 on Nov 18, 2009 12:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Makes no sense...
Gordon needs to play. He’s back in less than a week.
by swamigusto on Nov 18, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
10 Day Contract
Sign AI to a 10 day contract and when gordon is ready to start again, let AI go to the kicks or retire or whatever.
by MTM22 on Nov 18, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not an option
10 day contracts can’t be signed until Jan. If you want somebody in Nov. you sign them.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Nov 18, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ditto!
Start him at the 2, and when EJ returns they can battle for the starting job. EJ is a very resillient kid; his points per minute will probably remain nearly the same coming off the bench.
"Excellence...is not an act, but a habit" Aristotle
by Cliptomaniac on Nov 18, 2009 2:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I meant to reply to HVYDRT007's comments.
"Excellence...is not an act, but a habit" Aristotle
by Cliptomaniac on Nov 18, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
is it me...
or does AI look like Guru from Gangstarr?
Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"
by Lawler's Law on Nov 18, 2009 2:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Baldhead Slick?
I don’t see it.
The kids aren't alright.
by OhMeOhMy on Nov 18, 2009 5:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do we know that EJ
is on track for the Minnesota game?
by ghost_ride on Nov 18, 2009 3:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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