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"Even the Clippers?" someone asked.

"Everywhere. At one point in my life, I’ve thought about playing for every NBA team," James continued. "All of them."

so in an indirect way, he said he would consider playing for the Clippers

hahahah.

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talk about a slap in the face to the cavs...

should they trade him before he gets away and they get nothing back?

Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"

by Lawler's Law on Nov 6, 2009 10:34 AM PST reply actions  

Well

That’s not an awful idea frankly, if you are certain he is not coming back. If that’s the case, you see how this year goes. If you think you can win a title with Lebron then you keep him, if not, then move him to a contender.

The NBA is not really set up for this kind of move though. Personally, I know baseball rules much better, where this sort of thing routinely happens. But needing to match salaries, stuff like that, makes it much trickier (since you can’t trade Lebron for a number 1 pick). Plus, in the MLB the team that is losing Lebron (Cleveland) would never get nothing. In baseball, if the free agent left, at a minimum you would be getting a compensatory draft pick, if not a 1 round draft pick outright. In the NBA, you get nothin.

by Michael White on Nov 6, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

i don't think

LBJ is making max money now, so most teams would not have a problem trading him…

Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"

by Lawler's Law on Nov 6, 2009 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Lebron is making the max

in salary. He’s making almost $16 mil this season.

But of course NO team would have a problem trading for him. Who doesn’t want the best player on the planet ENTERING his prime?

Cleveland isn’t trading him. You don’t want to be the GM that trades away Lebron before his prime. If you lose him, you lose him. It’ll kill the team, but it makes Lebron the bad guy. You lose way more fans by trading away everyone’s favorite player.

by madglove on Nov 6, 2009 11:28 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Yes, and besides that...

wouldn’t it basically have to be a sign and trade at this point, with Lebron signed to the max (~20 mil)? A team wouldn’t want to bring him on now (at a very substantial trade cost) just to then lose him at the end of the season.

by SilverClip on Nov 6, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Remember

we made a huge run at Kobe a few years ago. I wouldn’t be surprised if we made a big run at King James in the offseason.

.. I’m just saying ..

by yaggiefresh on Nov 6, 2009 10:36 AM PST reply actions  

Can only happen if...

we trade BD or Kaveman. Actually if we trade AT and Telfair for an expiring deal that might work too. It would give us a potent starting 5.

SG – EJ
PG – BD
C – Kaveman
PF – BG
SF – LBJ

Ahhh…. one can only dream.

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Nov 6, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

wheres our bench?

seriously the whole bench will be wiped out next year.

by highriser on Nov 6, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

We could worry about that later.

We’d still have DJ and our draft pick. After that we’d have to sign players to the min.

by Lawler 4ever on Nov 6, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

No bench no problem

it didn’t stop the Celtics a couple of years ago. We could bring over Greek Shaq, we have DJ, we have a 1st rounder and we probably have some exceptions left. LBJ makes average players like Mo Williams into all-stars, how good would EJ be with LBJ setting him up?

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Nov 6, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly

If you have LeBron on your team, you’re going to be competitive. You pair him up with talented players like we would have in our starting lineup, then you’re likely to have great results. Besides, FA’s would be willing to take less money to play with him in a city like Los Angeles, even if it is the Clippers.

by Lawler 4ever on Nov 6, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

...and just like what happened with Kobe..

we’d be putting all of our eggs in one basket, while other free agents are signing elsewhere.

'Cause how you play, is how you'll be remembered. PLAY LOUD!

by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Nov 6, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

LBJ

would be worth it, just like Kobe was worth it. We should start selling the fact that DTS is old… about 76. A lot of these young guys will likely play for a different owner during their career morbid as that may sound (yet strangely comforting to some of us fans).

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Nov 6, 2009 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Not too comforting in my opinion

I’ve always felt like the only reason we are still in LA is because of Donald T. Sterling. Everywhere else I look, alot of people still want to move us around to Seattle or Las Vegas. Now I know there are these arguments about Los Angeles being a big market, but some other new owner still might prefer to live away from Laker’s shadows. While our time with DTS isn’t the best, I just don’t know how long Clippers would really stay in LA under a different management.

by JackduhSun on Nov 7, 2009 2:17 AM PST up reply actions  

We're one of the 7 or so teams with money.

There are going to be quite a few names out there that are available. Having the opportunity to go after a player of his magnitude is something you should do regardless of how likely or unlikely it is. If he opts to go elsewhere, then we still have more money than 20+ other teams and could still get a nice player to add to the team.

by Lawler 4ever on Nov 6, 2009 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

LBJ to the LAC is not as crazy as it sounds,

remember “Money Talks and BS Walks”

Everything starts out New, Gets Old and Dies or is Destroyed.

by HVYDRT007 on Nov 6, 2009 1:27 PM PST reply actions  

That means nothing

Lebron can get the most money in Cleveland.

by madglove on Nov 6, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Ya, but that's not Los Angeles,

with the Clippers he can make his own Dynasty in Los Angeles and go head up with Kobe for LA Bragging rights and also be in the belly of Hollywood and still get paid Max NBA Money.

Looks like Ace’s all around for the King in LA.

Everything starts out New, Gets Old and Dies or is Destroyed.

by HVYDRT007 on Nov 6, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

The Ali-Frazier of basketball!

"Excellence...is not an act, but a habit" Aristotle

by Cliptomaniac on Nov 6, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

It is said...

that he has a escalation bonus clause from Nike if he plays in a big market (such as LA or NYC) but there is talk that is just a myth.

That said he could increase his visibility by being in a bigger market and he’s spoken openly about his goal of becoming a billionaire so we have that in our favor.

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Nov 6, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

You know HYD

that was a great idea with LBJ LAC vs Kobe LAL. Man, imagine having LBJ’s statue in a Clippers uniform outside of Staples.

by JackduhSun on Nov 7, 2009 2:20 AM PST up reply actions  

In LA he gets more endorsement money

So even if we can’t give him the same money as cleveland, he will basically make it up
in big time endorsements. Nike for once would up his endorsement deal if he was playing
for a big time market (LA,NY,MIA). So on this issue never say never. I think we have to
beat the cavaliers and show him that the clippers are better than new york or miami.
I think the clippers are more intriguing because if he were to come here and say win
a championship that would make him unique because he was the one who brought
a championship to the worst franchise in the league. On the same thought imagine
six championships and at the same time watch all these laker fans just hate life!!!!!

by ENCUEROMAN on Nov 6, 2009 2:58 PM PST reply actions  

I don’t really buy that.

Do you really think Lebron isn’t incredibly popular now, while being in Cleveland? I don’t see why he woudl have to go to a big market to crank up his endorsement dollars.

I agree with something Steve has said in the past, Lebron kind of transcends market size. The sky is the limit for him regardless of the city he signs with.

Besides, there are more than 3 big markets in the U.S. Los Angeles, NY, Miami, but also Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, Washington D.C. Houston is the 4th largest city in the U.S. Golden State also qualifies as a big market. And with the exception of New York, in any of those other big markets, the market isn’t split between two teams.

by Michael White on Nov 6, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly

The guy is an INTERNATIONAL icon already with his popularity in China. It really doesn’t matter where he plays.

by madglove on Nov 6, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

LBJ's popularity

Its true he’s pretty popular but he’s not MJ popular yet and won’t unless he wins a string of championships. Jordan has been retired for years now and he still makes as much endorsement wise as anyone in the league.

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Nov 6, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly

His popularity will only increase if he’s a winner. It has nothing to do with where he plays. LA, NY, Clev or even Milwaukee…if he wins multiple rings, he’ll be up there with the greatest ever.

If not, it won’t matter where he plays, he’ll never get there.

by madglove on Nov 6, 2009 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I was about to say that

Cleveland wasn’t really a big market before LBJ. Disagree with me all you like, but noone seemed to care about the Cav’s before Lebron came into the league. After years of proving himself, LBJ has made Cleveland into a pretty marketable place. When you think of Cleveland Cavilers, probably about 80-90% is probably going to think of LBJ23 first.

As for now, it wont matter where LBJ plays. He can play in Charlotte or Oklahoma City; that team will become an instant hit.

by JackduhSun on Nov 7, 2009 2:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Wasnt Kobe Bryant tempted at joining the Clippers 3 years ago?

I dont believe in miracles but if LBJ signed with us, i may have to rethink my stance!

by big0lbad on Nov 6, 2009 3:39 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah the year we signed Cuttino Mobley

since we werent able to land Kobe. Some say that Kobe was just toying with our offer so that Lakers would up their offer. Some say Kobe really was considering switching locker rooms. You be the verdict.

by JackduhSun on Nov 7, 2009 2:26 AM PST up reply actions  

You can quote me now that LBJ will sign with the Clippers, period.

Everything starts out New, Gets Old and Dies or is Destroyed.

by HVYDRT007 on Nov 6, 2009 3:49 PM PST reply actions  

You've grabbed the lead for optimism

And hell, don’t expect me to argue. In the meantime, I’m cheering against the Cavs. I’m with others who think that Shaq’s going to be an ugly, awkward mistake. ESPN today was pointing out that Shaq has no outside game, and so he ends up clogging the lane for Lebron. Duh. If the Cavs had grabbed Wallace before the Celts, they’d be a terror right now. Let’s see that look of disgust, Lebron!

by SilverClip on Nov 6, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

"ESPN today was pointing out that Shaq has no outside game"

Seriously, that needs to be pointed out.

Like you said. Duh.

Sheed is one of the guys who I’ve always felt is incredibly underrated thanks to his off the courst issues, his act as though he’s never commited a foul in his life, and his general laziness—- but the dude could always play.

by Michael White on Nov 6, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I always thought HVYT

always had some sort of optimism. He’s very optimistic about Al Thornton, even through his horrid plays. He seems to support Dunleavy 80-100%. And most of all, he once believed in 82-0.

by JackduhSun on Nov 7, 2009 2:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Only 10% here

Cavs 50%, Knicks 15%, Nets 15%, us 10%, rest of the league 10%.

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Nov 6, 2009 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

That sounds more or less right

Though the % for the Cavs could dip significantly, and I still think Lebron would be crazy to go to that heap of dilapidation they call the Knicks. So who knows…

Cliptomanian below is right too, I believe. Maybe James’ homelife will take a turn for the worse and he’ll want a change of scenery. Or maybe he’ll just opt for better endorsements, and find that NY is the lesser option. I’m reaching for that optimism, then, but it’s a bit of a stretch.

by SilverClip on Nov 6, 2009 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Im hoping he chooses talent over money

if so, we have one of the better talents in the league. I mean our roster looks better than Knicks…

by JackduhSun on Nov 7, 2009 2:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Next year?

or when he’s on the downside of his career?

by Lawler 4ever on Nov 6, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Lebron James will probably opt to stay

somewhere close to Cleveland – maybe Chicago or NY, because family and friends are very important to him. And if his wife or mom or even his closest friends want him close, I’d almost be willing to bet that he’d choose to stay close and not move all the out to the west coast. I hope I’m wrong. It makes so much sense otherwise for him to come to L.A. (Clippers).

"Excellence...is not an act, but a habit" Aristotle

by Cliptomaniac on Nov 6, 2009 5:21 PM PST reply actions  

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