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Clippers vs. Grizzlies - Game Preview

2009/2010 NBA Regular Season
Lac1_70_medium
vs.
Mem_70_medium
2-4
1-5
Staples Center
November 7th, 2009, 7:30 PM
FSN Prime Ticket, 980 AM
Probable starters:
Baron Davis
PG Mike Conley
Eric Gordon
SG O.J. Mayo
Rasual Butler
SF Rudy Gay
Marcus Camby
PF Zach Randolph
Chris Kaman
C Marc Gasol

 

The Back Story:

First meeting of the season.  The Grizzlies won the season series last year 2-1.

Star-divide

The Big Picture:

The Clippers were 0-4 in October.  They're 2-0 in November.  Is it something to do with the Zodiac?  No, it's just that they played good teams in October (all four had at least 45 wins last season) and not so good teams in November so far.  That trend continues tonight with the 1-5 Grizzlies coming to town.  The Clippers were impressive to say the least in their win over the Warriors last night.  They shot 58% while their defense held Golden State under 35%.  They also got big games from the group that is fast becoming their big three - Baron Davis, Eric Gordon and Chris Kaman combined for 72 points, and that was pretty much without playing the fourth quarter.  The team should be riding high after that win - let's hope they can keep that feeling and play the same way against the Grizz.

The Antagonist:

The Grizzlies, or as Citizen Zhiv likes to call them the Funk, are a funky team.  If, at the end of last season, you had surveyed NBA GMs about who the most toxic players in the league were, the guys that they would stay away from at any cost, there's no doubt that Zach Randolph and Allen Iverson would have been high on their lists.  All the Grizzlies did is trade for Z-Bo and sign AI as a free agent.  These two supremely talented pariahs join a team filled with young potential stars - O.J. Mayo, Rudy Gay, Marc Gasol, Mike Conley.  So it sure seems like there's plenty of talent on the roster.  But when Iverson mouthed off about his minutes after his first game in Memphis, it was hard not to think "I told you so."  Z-Bo's numbers have, as always, been great so far - he's averaging over 20 and 10, which is what he does.  But the team has open just 1-5, and are on a four game losing streak.

The Subplots:

  • UPDATE: In case you haven't heard, Clipper-summer-flirtation Allen Iverson is not with the Grizzlies tonight, attending to 'personal matters' in Atlanta.  Lionel Hollins addressed the media before the game with little more info than that, and as another reporter said to me "He didn't really do a very good job of selling it."  In other words, no one's really buying it - not around here anyway.  Three games into his career as a Grizzlies reserve, he has to deal with 'personal matters.'  Suspicious. 
  • Back to backs.  The schedule makers are being kind with the November opponents, but the logistics of the Clippers early schedule have been brutal.  In their seventh game of the season, the Clippers are playing in the third back-to-backs.  Not only that, it's the second time that the opponent is coming off a Lakers game, which means that the Clippers are traveling, while the opponent is not.  As I recall, the Clippers are among the league-leaders in back-to-backs this season, so they're going to have to figure out how to win in them if they're going to be successful.
  • Nice Starting Lineup.  Mike Conley, O.J. Mayo, Rudy Gay, Zach Randolph and Marc Gasol is a good starting lineup, at least on paper.  It's unclear how those pieces fit together, and there's no one there you would remotely call a 'glue guy' nor are there any defensive stoppers.  But it's a young, talented group, and these guys will win some games this season.
  • Second Overall Pick.  First overall pick Blake Griffin is sitting out with a stress fraction in his patella.  Second overall pick Hasheem Thabeet is sitting out because, well, because he's sitting out.  He's played 6 minutes in their last 3 games because he's just not a very good basketball player.
  • Fun matchups.  Kaman and Gasol have both been on tears in the early season, so it will be fun to see who gets the most out of this game.  Gordon and Mayo are vying for the title of 'Best shooting guard from the 2008 draft' (J.A. Adande picked Gordon in his chat yesterday).
  • Zach Randolph versus the Clippers.  As far as I know there were no hard feelings with Zach when he left the Clippers, so I don't think he's going to have that extra incentive per se.  But I think players always like to do well against their former team.  Defending Zach is a tough assignment for Camby.  Zach can take him outside, and he also has the strength and size to lean on Marcus inside.  But Marcus' length is the equalizer there for the relatively earth bound Randolph.  It will be interesting to see how Marcus does against him.
  • Movie Quote: 

    Heh! Little does he realize that I have on my disintegration-proof vest. You may fire when ready, Grizzly.

    Daffy Duck, as Duck Dodgers, to Marvin the Martian - Duck Dodgers in the 24½th Century (1953).  You probably don't want to get me started on Warner Brothers cartoons, particularly those directed by Chuck Jones.
  • Get the Grizzlies perspective at Straight Outta Vancouver.

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I hope that DJ

dunks right on Thabeet’s face

In Gordon we trust

by bestclipfan on Nov 7, 2009 8:11 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Pressure to take Thabeet that high?

I mean seriously he was a man among boys in college, only dominating playing well because of his huge height advantage. And even then, wasn’t doing the things you’d expect from a player that size.

by dulciusEXasperis on Nov 7, 2009 8:18 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Heisley wanted him...

Not the scouts or front office. Sadly most owners don’t make great scouts or front offices, that’s why they hire people to do it for them.

Straight Outta Vancouver - The Memphis Grizzlies DO Still Exist

by djturtleface on Nov 7, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Zach Randolph

is a really tough matchup for this Clipper team. He’s a bit too strong for Camby and too quick for Kaman. To make matters worse, Camby can’t exactly expose Randolph’s deficiencies on the defensive end. Zach will get his points tonight. Interestingly, the guy who would match up perfectly with Randolph would have been Griffin. His size, speed and athleticism would probably keep Randolph off his game (for a little while anyway) and on the other end he’d probably get enough hustle points against Randolph. Maybe Smith sees some minutes in this game, he might be the best guy to go against Randolph.

Really the Memphis defense has been terrible against opposing wings (the problem is not Randolph.) Kobe dropped 41 last night and Kevin Martin got 48 last week. Perhaps another big game for Eric Gordon tonight.

by Michael White on Nov 7, 2009 8:44 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

On all points… Z-Bo could give the Clippers trouble (though don’t underestimate Camby’s length on him); Griffin would be good to have on him (and on Shawn Marion, and on Paul Millsap, and on Amare Stoudemire, you get the idea); Smith is a pretty good choice and I expect him to get a chance on him.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Nov 7, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Odom was awful against him though...

Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"

by Lawler's Law on Nov 7, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Looking forward to Kaman-Gasol

Really have no idea how that one’s going to play out. If Kaman ends up with 20+ again, that’ll say significantly more than his 22 against the Warriors. Has anyone seen Gasol play this year?

by SilverClip on Nov 7, 2009 9:00 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Rudy Gay

is a guy the Clips should try to pry away from the Grizzlies to improve our SF spot. The Grizzlies did not give him an extension and he will be a RFA next season. With their GM and owner, they could probably make a favorable deal.
Kaman
Griffin
Gay
Gordon
Davis

by thewhiteshadow on Nov 7, 2009 9:08 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I was watching

the Grizzlies vs. Warriors game and Z-Bo looks thinner this year, and quicker this year. Let’s see how he looks tonight, I always liked him on the Clips!

by baronycamby on Nov 7, 2009 10:43 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Neil Olshey told me...

Olshey told me that Z-bo is in great shape this season.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Nov 7, 2009 10:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Correct.

He is looking slightly fitter, faster, and jumping higher. Sadly these skills don’t translate into defense.

Straight Outta Vancouver - The Memphis Grizzlies DO Still Exist

by djturtleface on Nov 7, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Kaman for MVP and keeping the win streak alive

Do you guys see how nice the blog has been today with all the positive coments.
Going for 3 out 7 win streak and let the good times roll. Stay positive and this
team will pull together. Gentlemen last night was no fluke and the basketball
gods will continue to reward us with similar victory. Stay positive my friends!!!!!!!!!!!!

by ENCUEROMAN on Nov 7, 2009 1:04 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

“Stay thirsty, my friends.”

by Takebb909 on Nov 7, 2009 2:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

LOL.. You forgot this...

'Cause how you play, is how you'll be remembered. PLAY LOUD!

by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Nov 7, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That dude is the man...

the most interesting man in the world!

“He lives vicariously through himself”

“His beard alone has experienced more than a lesser man’s entire body”
Baron respects that one.

by Lawler 4ever on Nov 7, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree! One of my favorite commercials...

“His blood smells like cologne”

“He once had an awkward moment, just to see how it feels”

'Cause how you play, is how you'll be remembered. PLAY LOUD!

by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Nov 7, 2009 5:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Whatever side of the tracks he’s currently on, is the right side. If he were to cross them, he would still be on the right side.

He has won the same lifetime achievement award – twice.

by dulciusEXasperis on Nov 7, 2009 6:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My favorite one is

“He speaks French in Italian”

by baronycamby on Nov 7, 2009 7:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

well seems like iverson wont be playing tonight, as he is going to atlanta to deal with a personal matter.

by hans007 on Nov 7, 2009 3:33 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

No surprise here

I knew it was a disaster, I TOLD YOU SO (to those who wanted AI). Hmm one more I TOLD YOU SO for good measure. Yea, that should do it.

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Nov 7, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What are you talking about?

Those who wanted Iverson only want him if he’s willing to come off the bench. So again, those who have said I told you so, what the bleeeeeeppppppp are you talking about?

I still want Iverson if he’s willing to come off the bench. Which part of WILLING TO COME OFF THE BENCH that you don’t get?

by RockyMountain on Nov 7, 2009 6:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Question

Did you want Iverson to come off the bench?

by supac on Nov 7, 2009 6:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If he signs with the clips, sure

No way he’s starting over Gordon.

by RockyMountain on Nov 7, 2009 6:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The I Told You Sos...

are because it was obvious that he’d never be willing to come off the bench. If he wasn’t willing to do so last year in Detroit, what would’ve made anyone think he’d be willing to do so for the Clips? And a lot of people weren’t saying “sign him, but only if he’s willing to come off the bench.” They were just saying “sign him.” It was clear that if we signed him with Baron and EJ already on the roster that he’d be nothing but trouble…just like he is with Grizz.

by boltsfan21 on Nov 7, 2009 6:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

Boltsfan21 is on the money, this was a train wreck seen from a mile away. Its really of no surprise to many of us that he wouldn’t accept this role. The Clips themselves backed off after they talked to AI and they found out he was unwilling to come off the bench.

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Nov 8, 2009 12:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

the posts are silly. No one wanted to sign the guy unless he agreed to come off the bench.

by Jax on Nov 8, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This game will be pretty tough tonight, but hope the 2 game win streak will keep them motivated

Clips' Nation
Eagles!

by Goosebumpz on Nov 7, 2009 5:49 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

NBA League Pass Mobile

Has anyone downloaded the app? Is it worth the $40?

by sqrebck on Nov 7, 2009 7:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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