Clippers vs. San Antonio - Open Thread
by Steve Perrin on Dec 13, 2009 6:15 PM PST
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PrintSan Antonio Spurs at Los Angeles Clippers, Dec 13, 2009 6:30 PM PST
2009/2010 NBA Regular Season
vs
9-12 11-9
Staples Center
December 13th, 2009, 6:30 PM
Prime Ticket, 980 AM
Probable starters:
PG
Tony Parker
Eric Gordon
SG
Keith Bogans
Al Thornton
SF
Richard Jefferson
Marcus Camby
PF
Tim Duncan
Chris Kaman
C
Antonio McDyess
The Back Story:
First meeting of the season. San Antonio swept the season series last year (and the year before that, and the year before that).
NOTE: Baron Davis is ill, but he is in uniform and on the active roster.
First Quarter Notes:
Despite the result of the quarter, the Clippers first several defensive possessions were pretty solid. They forced two turnovers and four contested jump shots in the first six trips. Unfortunately, San Antonio made three of the jump shots.
As of the first time out, 6 minutes in, the Spurs are 7 for 8.
The Clippers are doing a good job on the offensive glass early. That's partly because there are so many available as they start 5 for 13.
There certainly seems to be some sort of Spurs mystique where the Clippers are involved. This team is 1-5 on the road, and they come in here and look EXACTLY like the team that owns the Clippers year in and year out. After one quarter, the Spurs are 14 for 17 with 5 three pointers. They have 39 points on 17 shots. 39 points on 17 shots. 39 points on 17 shots. Is that even possible? Their effective field goal percentage for the first quarter is like 97%.
Sweet merciful crap.
Second Quarter Notes:
As bad as things were in the first quarter, they get quickly worse in the second. The Spurs are not planning to miss in this game, and the Clippers don't seem to have any intention of changing their minds.
The disaster reaches it's lowest point at 52-28 (the 52nd point coming on a dead ball technical foul on Ricky Davis, thanks for that Ricky).
From that point, the Clippers offense really starts clicking, especially Chris Kaman. Unfortunately, they still can't stop the Spurs for most of the quarter.
Suddenly, after not getting a single stop the whole first half, the Clippers get five straight to close the half and cut the lead to 10 points..... so LA has all the momentum going into the locker room.
Astoundingly, the Spurs are still shooting 70% for the half. So it's an extreme understatement to say that the Clippers are lucky to only be down 10.
Third Quarter Notes:
The third quarter is a different game. The defensive intensity has picked up on both ends. The Clippers cut the lead down to 7 a couple of times, and could have gotten closer but for a blown layup by Marcus Camby and a Kaman jump hook that seemed to be all the way down before popping out.
The play of the game is Al Thornton rejecting a Tim Duncan dunk at the rim. It happened right in front of me and it was shocking. Timmy isn't a 'finish with authority' guy most of the time, just because he doesn't have to be. But he can do it, and he was plannig on it this time. Later Thornton changed another Duncan shot. Like I said, the intensity has picked up. Just ask Manu Ginobili, who almost had his head taken off by Eric Gordon (inadvertently, not dirty).
Unfortunately, with several possessions to cut further into the lead, the Clippers come up empty each time. Baron didn't get the start because he wasn't feeling well, but his plus minus in this game is going to be impressive. Telfair has been terrible, and the Clippers have been significantly better - night and day - with Baron on the floor.
Ginobili, who is shooting under 40% on the season coming into the game, is better than ever in this one. I keep hearing how the age and the injuries are taking a toll, but against the Clippers, he's an all pro, every time. He's 5 for 8 with 4 three pointers in this one.
The Clippers miss an oppoturnity in the third quarter. After shooting 70% in the first half, the Spurs shoot 8 for 20 in the third. But the Clippers can't take advantage, and a poor close to the quarter leaves them further behind than they were at halftime, down 13.
Although the Clippers were able to make up 14 points in the second quarter, I'm not expecting that to happen again. The Spurs are not the team you want to give a 13 point lead going into the fourth.
Fourth Quarter Notes:
MDsr goes with a small, unconventional lineup with 10 minutes to go - Smith, Butler, Ricky, Gordon and Baron. It is an immediate disaster as DaJuan Blair rebounds a missed free throw directly over Smith on the first play. Offensively the group starts even worse. Ricky throws the ball out of bounds, Baron shoots an air ball. I'm not clear on why MDsr is doing this frankly. But after a timeout at 9 minutes, he sticks with the group. This doesn't look good.
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yeah..
Thankfully that whole first thing has never really taken off around here.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Dec 13, 2009 6:29 PM PST up reply actions
according to Clippers Live
Baron will not start but he will play. Last year this would have been a bad thing but this year with Bassy being a capable point guard I am not as worried if Baron isn’t starting.
In Gordon we trust
Steve in the house
If you’re here and checking updates on your phone, stop by and say hi. I’m in the press section at the front of section 115.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Spurs are a draw...
at least for the media. Heisler, Ben Maller, both Kamenetsky’s, Adande all covering this game.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Who are those people?
LA Times reporters? TV Station?
by RockyMountain on Dec 13, 2009 6:38 PM PST up reply actions
various
Heisler LA times, the Kamenetzky’s blog the Lakers for the Times, Adande used to work for the times but is ESPN now, Baller writes a column for fox.com, I think. The point is, he’s LA based but he doesn’t show up at a lot of clipper games.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Dec 13, 2009 6:42 PM PST up reply actions
Adande is cool
He doesn’t bash on the Clips as much as ESPN’s other writers…Oh, and anybody have a stream?
Popovich
Is a riot. Very dry sense of humor. Arash Markazi kept asking questions about George Hill. Pop finally said, “Are you related to this guy?”
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
This would be a good win
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Matchups to start
Kaman on Timmy, Camby on McDyess. McDyess has KILLED the Clippers a couple of times recently.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Ricky Davis
Ricky was shooting the lights out at practice on Thursday.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
We're sitting here talking about practice.
Not a game. Not a game, but we’re talking about practice.
by Lawler 4ever on Dec 13, 2009 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
was he practicing giving the ball away too?
Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"
by Lawler's Law on Dec 13, 2009 7:01 PM PST up reply actions
Childs' Play
For SA tonight.
The first couple of possessions seemed pretty good, but after that one bad play has led to another.
weren;t camby and mcdyess teammates in denver?
old timers!
Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"
The hole is gettin' deeper..
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Dec 13, 2009 7:02 PM PST via mobile reply actions
man..teams have us circled on calendars or what?
Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"
Matt Bonner
MDsr thinks Novak can guard Bonner.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Dec 13, 2009 7:04 PM PST up reply actions
adjusting to the opponent
always one step behind
by edu_argentina on Dec 13, 2009 7:05 PM PST up reply actions
i know but is he PLAYING tonight?
Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"
by Lawler's Law on Dec 13, 2009 7:08 PM PST up reply actions
chance to make a run on this second unit?
Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"
Game Over
I’m calling it already…..we are no chance to win this game, and I would love nothing more than to be proved wrong !
steve being in press row
do you get questions about who you are or are doing there?
Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"
Hey Edu
are you here because of manu?
Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"
are they broadcasting this live in Argentina?
Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"
no, watching a stream
hard to swallow so far
by edu_argentina on Dec 13, 2009 7:12 PM PST up reply actions
C'mon we need to stay close.
C’mon Clips!
Wow
just.. wow again can’t guard the 3 Blake won’t change that
Again why play Novak if you can't get him the ball on offense
This is the problem I have with Dunleavy pointless moves by a pintless coach.
this game is over..... i wish i could say i was sad or disappointed...but i've become numb to this kind of "basketball"
by whyamiaclippersfan on Dec 13, 2009 7:10 PM PST reply actions
luckily ny-phil is still on...
lots of players from my fantasy team on both!
Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"
so yeah, we are looking like crap and a half.
by Fan of the Game on Dec 13, 2009 7:16 PM PST reply actions
I'm waiting for Perrin to spin this
Dunleavy uses Ricky AND Novak yet Novak hasn’t had a play drawn for him of offense so he is in for D basically.lol F*cking joke
no ball movement
lol this team has no teamconcept
Isn't that the coach's fault?
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Dec 13, 2009 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
Guess this is what happens when you have a week off
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
unfortunately this happens almost every game it seems
by whyamiaclippersfan on Dec 13, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
True.. It's really depressing being a fan of this team
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Dec 13, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
no effort from anyone
worst part in two quarters we have seem majority of the team lol
looks like the refs feel bad for us
because Parker got hacked like ten times right there
this is what i was missing for 4 days!!??
Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"
what the hell is happening to the Spurs right now? LOL
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
haha...ralph down by 11 and says it's comeback!
Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"
novak!...did mdsr write up a play ofr him?
Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"
i think we’ll need another Memphis inspired 4th quarter for this one…
by Fan of the Game on Dec 13, 2009 7:40 PM PST reply actions
Dude is the stream freezing up on anyone else??
Or is it my connection??
by The Only Team That Matters on Dec 13, 2009 7:41 PM PST reply actions
the freedocast posted here. the usual adht route was worse.
now it’s a little beter. but i have sprint as my aircard and it sucks quite often.
by The Only Team That Matters on Dec 13, 2009 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
Did you know that..
Donaghy accused Dick Bavetta of calling games close out of mercy for the team that is losing badly. Someone brought it to my attention and looking at this game and calls I wouldn’t call it insane. Oh well we got the help time to take advantage
Wow that was a run
now it is game if we play like this we really have a chance. Dunleavy must have said remember Memphis.
In Gordon we trust
Spread is +6 for the Clippz.. Over/Under is 189
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Dec 13, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
when the clips where down by 25 I was actually falling asleep watching the game
but the last couple of mins woke me up. good run.
please...
no 3rd or 4th qtr collapse!
Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"
We need a 3 ball or two
we need Gordon to wake up there has been a lay-off but the rest of the starters are waking up and we need his 3 ball
fantasy heaven type game!
Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"
by Lawler's Law on Dec 13, 2009 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
i need jacobs, jackson and giants d to step up and win this FFL game!
Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"
by Lawler's Law on Dec 13, 2009 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
Some moron on facebook trys to rip Lawler
Richard MeyersRalph: God love you, but you have to stop patronizing us by telling us how “hot” other teams always are against us. SA has been getting wide open looks. Why? Because ouf DEFENSE is awful and stupid. Doubling guys late results in easy wide-open shots. If you’re not going to report what you see, but just spin it as “oh gosh, bad luck, the other team is getting hot” then you simply can’t …. oh me oh my. This is horrrrible.
god thats frustrating!
and just when the second half was starting with some momentum,
by The Only Team That Matters on Dec 13, 2009 8:01 PM PST up reply actions
hmmm...
camby takes it to the rack…but at settles for Js
Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"
Play by Play on ESPN is a good feature...
it seems more current than the gamecast feature.
by The Only Team That Matters on Dec 13, 2009 8:16 PM PST reply actions
bullshit!
that was a travel by duncan before he called timeout
Why are they missing high-percentage shots like layups???
Hard for me to tell without being able to see the game.
by The Only Team That Matters on Dec 13, 2009 8:20 PM PST reply actions
bench is killing us
every mistake our miss has been on them Dunleavy should burn the starters the whole 4th
yeah beside Baron (who didn't really come off the bench....like Ginobili)
We have 4 bench points.
by dulciusEXasperis on Dec 13, 2009 8:30 PM PST up reply actions
not looking good
dare I say now or never with an up hill battle of 16 points.
They look terrible again.
by dulciusEXasperis on Dec 13, 2009 8:34 PM PST reply actions
And that's that.
no coming back that’s for sure. Not against a team this composed.
by dulciusEXasperis on Dec 13, 2009 8:37 PM PST reply actions
This game is Dun
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
Dumb play
Bad shots with plenty of time on the clock, fouling the jump shooter, allowing a rebound basket off a missed free throw, passing the ball to Kamen on the break—-low IQ basketball. And, San Antonio with their veterans won’t beat themselves.
GM DUN
Coach had to go to the bench at some point I know he didn’t want to but he had to. GM Dun can’t sit on his hands the bench is available (except DJ) use the expiring.
I picked up bonner to boost my 3PTM..
wish the fact he’s +32 counted.
by LancasterGordon4Eva on Dec 13, 2009 8:43 PM PST up reply actions
Amazing thing.,.
Pop can get Bonner a basket every time he is in. Novak still can’t get a shot attempt
We need a big 4:30 out of Brian Skinner..
to tie it and send it to overtime.
by LancasterGordon4Eva on Dec 13, 2009 8:48 PM PST reply actions
Thanks for adding to the depression by showing Griffin over and over again.
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
IUPUI
George Hill is another Indianapolis area player who attended IUPUI. Someone tell Ralph and Mike that it’s Indiana University Purdue University of Indianapolis.
Dunleavys Excuse
Guaranteed that his excuse for this blow out was the fact that we had 4 days off in between games. I can see it already.
“I’ve never lost with my players…..oh and I’ve never lost with my schedule”
Griffin looks like trade me now
A blowout and DJ didn’t get any mintues late
Please get new bench guys please
Cut Ricky Davis, Novack, Skinner get some new blood.
Still can't get over Novak not getting one shot
Matt was getting us on the other end with no remorse clever plays drawn up for him yet Novak never got a shot. You waisted 10 mins for a shooter with little D and he didn’t take a shot that was bad playcalling no excuse.
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