Clippers at New York - Game Preview
| 2009/2010 NBA Regular Season | ||
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vs. | |
| 11-13 | 8-17 |
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| Madison Square Garden |
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| December 18th, 2009, 5:00 PM | ||
| Prime Ticket, 980 AM |
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| Probable starters: | ||
| Baron Davis |
PG | Chris Duhon |
| Eric Gordon |
SG | Jared Jeffries |
| Al Thornton |
SF | Wilson Chandler |
| Marcus Camby |
PF | Al Harrington |
| Chris Kaman |
C | David Lee |
The Back Story:
First meeting of the season. The Clippers swept the season series last year (thank you, Al Harrington).
The Big Picture:
The Clippers have won two games in a row, and are coming off one of their most complete games of the season in Minneapolis on Wednesday. It's obvious to the point of banal, but things sure do go a lot more smoothly when everybody plays well at the same time. Eric Gordon appears to be in back in top form after losing some time to a couple of nagging injuries - he has scored 20+ points in three of his last four games, including 29 and 25 in the last two. Rasual Butler has recently broken out of a prolonged shooting slump, making half of his 14 three point attempts in the last two games. With Gordon and Butler providing a legitimate outside threat for defenses to deal with, suddenly the inside is a lot less crowded for Chris Kaman, who has scored 23 in each of the last two. Baron Davis is running the show with an enthusiasm and drive that we didn't see last season, and Marcus Camby continues to amaze with his productivity at 35. This team was clicking on Wednesday and Clips Nation is feeling pretty good right now. But it only takes one clunker to lose all this good feeling - if you don't believe me, reference LAC vs. HOU, which followed LAC vs. MEM.
The Antagonist:
The Knicks always seem to provide a million story lines. I won't have any trouble coming up with plenty of bullet points for this preview. New York was 3-14 at one point this season - and then they won 5 out of 6, including wins over Phoenix and Portland and at Atlanta and at New Orleans. So then you're thinking, "Oh oh, these guys are starting to buy what D'Antoni is selling, and they're going to be tough the rest of the way." They've since lost two straight against mediocre teams in Charlotte and Chicago, so who knows. The Knicks get almost all of their scoring from their bigs. Al Harrington (19.8), David Lee (18.1), Danilo Gallinari (13.6) and Wilson Chandler (13.1) are the only players averaging double digits who are likely to play tonight since Larry Hughes is out with a groin injury and Nate Robinson has fallen completely out of the rotation. There's plenty of scoring talent in that group. But with Hughes out, the backcourt is pretty suspect - Chris Duhon at the point and Jared Jeffries at the two (or maybe it's Chandler at the two - neither is a two of course). D'Antoni, as he did in Phoenix, is going with a VERY short bench - last night against the Bulls only six players logged more than 4 minutes on the court. With the Knicks traveling from Chicago to play this back-to-back game, that's a huge plus for the Clippers tonight. Four Knicks played 40+ minutes last night, and Harrington played 37. As you would expect with a D'Antoni team, the Knicks play at a very brisk pace (5th fastest in the league) and shoot a ton a threes (over 28 a game, second only to the Magic). Unfortunately for the coach, he doesn't quite have the offensive talent in New York he had in Phoenix, and the Knicks offensive efficiency ranks them 18th in the league, and their three point shooting percentage of 34.8% is 15th in the league. Meanwhile, defensively they are 23rd in efficiency. So expect a high scoring affair tonight.
The Subplots:
- Defending the three ball. Despite recent barrages from the Rockets and the Magic, the Clippers remain in the top 10 in the league at defending the three. They'll need it tonight. 28 a night is a lot, but some nights they go completely bonkers. Last night in Chicago, 47 of their 86 field goal attempts were threes. That's almost unfathomable. You know how much Marcus Camby hates defending stretch fours? Al Harrington took 13 threes last night, and Danilo Gallinari took 15. On the season, 161 of Gallinari's 250 field goal attempts have been from beyond the arc. And he makes 44% of them. So yeah, you might want to stay home on that guy. I must admit, I haven't seen this team play, but looking at the stats and the roster, it seems pretty clear cut. Defend the three, win the game.
- One game at a time. With the Knicks tonight and the Sixers tomorrow, the Clippers have a golden opportunity against teams with losing records to get back to .500 for the first time this season. Of course, they'd better be focused on the Knicks and not looking down the road.
- The dumbest play I've ever seen - twice. You can't talk about Clippers-Knicks without flashing back to last season. In each meeting between these teams, the Knicks were in control of the game in the final seconds when Al Harrington dunked the ball - and then was assessed a technical foul for hanging on the rim. Rarely do you see a bonehead play directly cost a team a win. Harrington did it twice in one season, against the same team, in exactly the same manner. If it was in a movie, you'd say it was totally unrealistic.
- Look Who's Back. Although he hasn't played yet, Jonathan Bender is back in the NBA with the Knicks. Bender was drafted out of high school in 1999 (the Elton Brand, Baron Davis, Lamar Odom draft) and spent seven seasons with the Pacers while current Knicks boss Donnie Walsh was there. Severe knee troubles forced Bender to miss a ton of games - he only play 30 games in his final three seasons in Indiana - and he hasn't played a minute since November 2005, over four years ago. But he's feeling a little better, has a new workout routine, and Walsh is giving him another shot at the NBA. The guy could play back in the day. I always felt sorry for him - I hope he does OK with his comeback.
- Nate. Last February, Nate Robinson scored 33 points, handed out 15 assists and grabbed 9 rebounds against the Clippers. He re-signed a one year deal this summer - and he's gotten DNPs by his coach's decision in the Knicks' last seven games. Then again, Mike Taylor scored 35 against the Knicks last season and he's out of the league completely now, so it just seems like strange things happen when the Knicks and Clippers meet.
- Eric Gordon's matchup. With Hughes out and D'Antoni just as nutty as ever with the substitutions (or lack thereof) the Knicks are basically playing one guard, Chris Duhon, currently. That puts Eric Gordon at 6'3" defending either the 6'8" Wilson Chandler or the 6'11" Jared Jeffries. I'm guessing it will be Chandler. It will be a good challenge for Gordon, who is turning into a lockdown wing defender. Let's see how he does giving away 5 inches.
- Rent-a-team. Of the Knicks top eight players in terms of minutes per game, five of them are not signed beyond this season, and Jeffries wouldn't be if any other team would take his bloated contract. Basically, after this season the team will consist of Gallinari, Chandler, and a bunch of rookies who aren't currently getting any playing time, including 8th overall pick Jordan Hill. Oh, and whatever free agents they can lure to MSG with all that money. But I just can't see that many guys itching to lace em up next to Gallinari and lose 60 games.
- The Final Quarter is all that matters. It has now been 10 consecutive Clippers games in which the team that won the fourth quarter won the game. So I suggest that the Clippers play well in the fourth quarter.
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Cartoon Quote:
Bugs Bunny - Bully for Bugs (1953). As I've mentioned before, I'm a HUGE fan of Chuck Jones directed cartoons, and this one is a classic. Jones has a technique for creating rapid movement that is completely brilliant, and he uses it to great effect in this one. Whenever the bull takes off running, in his wake is a cloud of dust, and also some random hoof marks in the air... it all happens very quickly, but if you get the DVD and watch it in slow motion, you'll see what I'm talking about. Jones does the same thing with Witch Hazel's bobby pins in Bewitched Bunny.Hmm, I knew I should've taken that left turn at Albuquerque. Oh well, I'll just ask this gent in the fancy knickerbockers. Eh, I beg your par...
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I would almost
prefer the knicks w/ hughes so EJ doesnt have to guard big 3’s
BG, EJ, BD LETS GO CLIPPERS!!!
Not to worried
its only when they decide to post him up the way Cuttino Mobley used to is where I remain skeptical. Jeffries isn’t a known shooter, and I dont know too much about Wilson Chandler except he’s a combination SG,SF, and PF whos done fairly well (have him on my fantasy roster.)
Chandler
is on mine as welll
here’s to him being the only knick with any stats at all
BG, EJ, BD LETS GO CLIPPERS!!!
I have Larry Hughes
And he’s been pretty decent for me
by AtotheZ on Dec 18, 2009 12:41 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I had Hughes
but he was surprisingly inconsistant. One night he’d do great and the next he’d be shooting 1 for 11 or something. Atleast with Chandler, he gets your rebounds and sub .500 fg%
Does this mean we'll see a lot of AT at the 4?
Seeing as how Camby almost always gives up the 3 ball to the stretch 4?
Maybe
It’s not that Camby is incapable of defending the three. It’s just that he doesn’t like to. He’s drawn to the rim like a moth to the flame, looking for weak side blocks and rebounds. So maybe if the game plan is STAY HOME he’ll stay home. Of course, that would have been the game plan against Rashard, and he gave up three straight threes in the first quarter, just on drifting away from him, not even on real double teams and rotations. That’s what you can’t have. You can’t have Marcus just drifting to the basket with Gallinari sitting behind the arc.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Dec 18, 2009 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
DJ on the perimeter?
I don’t think I’ve ever seen him ourside the paint, but you have to think he has the athleticism.
Or Mardy. That would make sense.
Or how about Novak? I’ve never seen Gallinari play, but if all he’s doing is hanging out beyond the stripe, then guarding him might be within Steve’s range. I could see us then shooting the lights out on our end.
Novak makes the most sense of those 3 (IMO.)
Not that it wouldn’t be hilarious to see DJ trying to guard on the perimiter. Don’t you think he’d get beaten off the dribble every team? And if you wanted to go with Collins, play Mardy at the 3 and move AT to the 4. I think AT is capable, he certainly has the bulk to match up with these stretch 4’s. If it’s not Camby, I’d have AT do it.
by Michael White on Dec 18, 2009 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
Marcus is a 5
Maybe a 4, but primarily a 5. His game is not suited to going out the perimeter.
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This is going to be interesting
I suppose we will win. You don’t know how the Knicks will turn out (either kinda good or embarrassingly bad).
The matchups are going to be interesting. I only hope that MDsr won’t just fall in love with dumping the ball to Kaman down low against David Lee/whomever when there’s more options around. We have an advantage there but we shouldn’t be totally predictable on using that.
I wonder if the Knicks blog has "superstar for a game"
thanks to Mike Taylor going all crazy on the Knicks last year.
Funny memory from the game last year
after Harrington did it for the second time last year, a fan right behind the Knick bench was absolutely crushing Harrington. Looking right at him, yelling at him, and putting up 2 figures saying that this is the second time he did it to blow the game against the same team! Just incredible.
by Michael White on Dec 18, 2009 7:40 AM PST up reply actions
Major concern
If our rotations are bad on the perimeter it will be a long night. Knicks jacked up 47 threes last night, if we play d like we played against spurs…turn off the tube
by Qlippers on Dec 18, 2009 7:37 AM PST via mobile reply actions
From the D'Antoni photo
I’m guessing they aren’t playing the triangle offense.
From what I read about the Bulls game, it sounds like those 47 threes weren’t part of a coherent offense; more on the order of ‘jacking up a 3.’
47 threes
Well, the average 28, so 47 is a definite outlier. Harrington and Gallinari took almost exclusively threes… like 85% of their shots. So no, it’s not what they do all the time. And of course they lost the Chicago game. But after the games against the Rockets and the Magic, I just cringe at the thought of threes raining down.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Dec 18, 2009 8:54 AM PST up reply actions
We just got to play lock down D and move the ball up court fast JLuc style like BD said we would now.
It has been working thus far since the last time we played CMDsr. style and got blown out SAS at home. The interview that BD gave after our last contest was very telling to how we will play in the future now.
Everything starts out New, Gets Old and Dies or is Destroyed.
Is there a link?
Or somewhere else to read it?
it's in the LA Times story
Should be the same one with DJ/Skinner news that SP linked.
by citizen zhiv on Dec 18, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
BSkinner really did eat Eddy Curry
I guess nobody’s too big for the guy.
Fun stat: Curry has played 63 minutes this YEAR. That averages out to 207 minutes for the entire season. At his salary, that comes to… $50,700 per minute of floor time. Holy crap.
Longtime Blazer fan here...
Clippers are looking really good right now. I really like how Kaman and Barron are working. With Camby back, and Griffin hopefully coming around soon, wow, this team is exciting. If they stay healthy, they ought to be in the playoffs.
I expect a 10 point or greater clipper win tonight. Knicks are coming off a game last night – Clippers are just too tough.
Clippers are just too tough.
words I have not seen very often in my lifetime.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Dec 18, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
hey, good job blazers
on screwing over the suns and continuing their “17 straight losses on tnt” streak going…. YOU GOTTA LOVE IT! I hate the suns and even more because nash dominated the 4th quarter against us in the 2nd game of the season…….and then there’s the 05-06 playoffs……ARRRRRRRR!!!! I FREAK THE SUNS!!!!!! we will have our revenge on christmas day……….. Nice coming out party for jarryd bayless last night. i was so happy when we got eric gordon cuz ive been watching him play in indiana for awhile and also shocked that we didnt pick up bayless. you guys picked up a future all-star in my opinion on a already young solid team…… :-) but when the clips and blazers meet again, there will be no crackers and juice…..it will be business as usual…. :-)
by In GrIfFin We TrUsT on Dec 18, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
Good cheer for now!
Though pretty soon, for that 8th spot, we may be mortal enemies

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