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Houston - A study in contrast

Our first meeting against Houston this year is fascinating.  Mainly because most people assumed that without Yao and TMac, the Rockets do not have enough talent to compete night in and night out.  But something about this Houston squad and the way they pushed the Lakers to 7 games last year impressed me.  True they don't have any clear cut "superstar" active on the roster, but they do have alot of complementary young talent and a very underrated coach in Adelman.  Our roster, in comparison, look far superior, even without Blake and Eric.  In a way, if you had to choose between a healthy Yao and a healthy Blake, Yao would win, because he has proven his worth in the NBA.  Same with comparing a healthy TMac against a healthy Gordon.  As promising as Gordon is, he has yet to reach the level of dominance that TMac once achieved on his way up.  Yet Houston, with the loss of their two All-Stars, have a better record than we do.  And on this night, they proved that, as constituted, they are clearly a superior team.

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During the heady days of summer, when the Clippers got Blake, Sebastian, Craig Smith, and Rasual Butler, many of us thought that a playoff position is preordained for such a deep and talented Clippers roster.  But there is a huge gap between the talent on paper and the chemistry on the floor.  Young, talented teams like the Clippers and Memphis lack an inner fortitude when the pressure is on, and it culiminates in their inability to execute down the stretch, going for long stretches without a point.  Well coached, well organized teams like Houston, on the other hand, who have felt the pressure of playing and pushing the NBA champs to 7 games in a hard fought series, come away with a certain confidence.  You can never discount this experience.  It probably means the difference between winning and losing 5 to 10 games a year.

The season is still early, but if you were to analyze the western conference playoff picture, particularly for the last spot, there are more surprise teams than teams not meeting expectations.  Until recently, Phoenix has performed much better than expected.  Only New Orleans have performed worse, but whenever you lose the top point guard in the league, you're bound to drop a few notches.  But even without Chris Paul, they beat us, and now we're only half a game ahead of them.  San Antonio and Utah are hitting their strides and will soon be beyond our grasp.  With Tyreke Evans leading the way, Sacramento is now 9-8, which is a huge surprise.  Oklahoma City looks alternatingly brilliant and dysfunctional on any given night, but they have managed to be 10-8, which is where they're expected to be.  With their win tonight against us, Houston is also 10-8.  As it stands right now, we are 11th in the West, ahead of 12th place New Orleans by only half a game.  We will eventually get Blake back and they will get Chris Paul, and we would have to assume that right now, Chris Paul is the superior player. 

I believe that the break even .500 record is an important psychological threshold for this Clippers squad, both for the veterans like Baron and Camby to remain interested and for the younger players to avoid the here-we-go-again downward spiral.  The loss tonight against Houston is damaging because we have failed an important test against a team that we must surpass if we have any hope of climbing to the eight spot.  Indiana on Saturday now becomes another "must win" game in a season already full of crisis games.  If we lose on Saturday, the Clippers will be 4 games below .500 with Orlando and a surging San Antontio team coming up.  If this team falls 6 games below .500, the hole will get too deep and the bottom will fall out when we start to play the better teams in the league.  It will mean that our come back win on Sunday will probably be the season's high point, the closest we will get to .500 this season.  And that is a depressing thought.

For this night at least, we can see with our own eyes, how a "talent-deficient" team like Houston can be two games over .500 while we're three games under .500.  We can only hope that order is restored soon and talent will win out in the bigger scheme of things.  Though in hindsight, I'm not sure that Landry, Scola, Brooks, Battier, Hayes, et al are less talented than Baron, Kaman, Thornton, Butler, and Sebastian, as they have proven to be a better squad on the court.

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“Though in hindsight, I’m not sure that Landry, Scola, Brooks, Battier, Hayes, et al are less talented than Baron, Kaman, Thornton, Butler, and Sebastian, as they have proven to be a better squad on the court.”

Depends on how one measures talent. If its in a locked gym working out I dare say you’d pick our players out but if you watched the game you would have seen Landry beasting Kaman in the post, Brooks burning Baron (and everyone else) repeatedly on forays to the basket, Scola nailing wide open jumpers, Battier closing out on our three point shooters and Chuck Hayes making two consecutive free throws (the hitch in his free throws is no longer as obvious) which makes him far superior to Deandre in that department.

This is a perfect example of the old saying “the sum of the parts is greater than the whole” as we have a bunch of square pegs in round holes and they have a bunch of well fitted pieces.

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Dec 3, 2009 1:21 AM PST reply actions  

True.."the sum of the parts is greater than the whole"

Which is what a good coach knows how to do. Isn’t it amazing how Rick Adleman can take an undersized less talented team without their two best players and still make them a team to be feared. This is something that Dunleavy could only dream of doing. He is simply a far superior coach than Dunleavy and it really showed in this game. If Dunleavy and Adleman switched teams I guarantee the Clippers would be better and the Rockets would be worse.

Turns out this game was lost to coaching, which could clearly be seen in the 4th quarter. There was a long drought starting the 4th in which 8 or 9 possessions went by where the Clippers produced absolutely nothing. Did a time-out come after 4 or 5 possessions of ugly basketball? NO. Dunleavy just sat back until we were down by 9 to call a time out. What coach waits until his team has fallen down by 9 to rethink a strategy? When the Clippers started pushing back and came within 3 after 3 or 4 good clipper possessions, Adleman immediately called a time-out and the Clips never came back after that. Houston played like sh!t tonight and gave us every chance to win this game.

 Another thing…Why was Ricky Davis in this game? Right when he came into the game we had a defensive breakdown on the perimeter and the Rockets immediately dropped in three 3’s. He ends up playing in the 4th, he can’t defend, he has no offense whatsoever clearly demonstrated by his 1-4 performace. Novak who also can’t defend can atleast shoot, but he doesn’t even get a chance until there’s 3 minutes left in the game. On a night against his former team (which players usually play well against old teams) and the fact that the Clips had ZERO made three pointers. Ricky Davis – 22 minutes – 3 points. Craig Smith -13 minutes – 8 points. Can someone explain to me why Ricky Davis still has a job let alone getting minutes in the NBA? or can this be answered with the name of one dumb@ss coach?

by ChrisPaulFTW on Dec 3, 2009 2:15 AM PST reply actions  

correction

They had 1 made three ball…..when it didn’t matter.

by ChrisPaulFTW on Dec 3, 2009 2:23 AM PST up reply actions  

People here think every game is lost because of coaching

And every win is in spite of coaching.

Doesn’t make it not true, but saying it has become cliche.

by Michael White on Dec 3, 2009 7:49 AM PST up reply actions  

one adage would seem to apply to mdsr

A poor carpenter always blames his tools.

Whatever you think about the guy, the fact that he blames the players says it all.

by Jax on Dec 3, 2009 8:41 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

This is more circular logic from Jax of course

But it is what it is.

Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball

by John R on Dec 3, 2009 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

No there is an exception to the Clippers.

When the Clippers lose, it’s usually Dunleavy’s fault as clearly seen in the loss to Houston. When the Clippers win it’s the players victory, cause I know Dunleavy had nothing to do with coming back from down 18 against Memphis. Since when has Dunleavy not melted down in a 4th quarter? You might want to start actually watching basketball and paying attention to the coaches history…. You act like coaches have nothing to do with the game. Then why is MDsr. always losing games and Jerry Sloan always winning? i’d like to see you wriggle your way out of that one

by ChrisPaulFTW on Dec 3, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

You might want to start actually watching basketball and paying attention to the coaches history

Ya, maybe I’ll start watching the games. Are the Clippers good? I just thought it would be fun to comment on the Clippers without watching them, maybe that wasn’t the correct approach?

You act like coaches have nothing to do with the game

Actually, you are the one acting like that, because the comment before you said “When the Clippers win it’s the players victory”.

Your posts are just sort of childish and shrill. Plenty of people here call for MDsr to be fired, but at least they make some points. You’re just acting like a clown accusing me of not watching games. I shouldn’t have even bothered with this….

by Michael White on Dec 3, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

but "at least" they make some points?

I think that what you mean is “their points are usually brilliant and I agree with them all . . .”

by Jax on Dec 3, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Jax, it's not the chef it's the ingredients. Let's just fire the coach and not hire anyone

else to fill his place. Let the players decide who’s starting and whenever anyones tired they can just put their hand up and run to the sideline for a substitute. Good idea John R? Remember, coaches don’t matter.

by eastie Rich on Dec 3, 2009 1:09 PM PST reply actions  

It's a moving target, isn't it

Good point.

It’s the players. No wait, it’s the GM. (Except for CMDSr).

One thing we know can’t be the case – it cannot be the coach, because the coach doesn’t matter.

Period.

by Jax on Dec 3, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep

Pop sucks. Adelman sucks. Jackson sucks.

But CMDSR – GREAT.

"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.

by Jax on Dec 3, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

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