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"Kaman would apparently be very happy to get traded to the Detroit Pistons"

I'm not sure how legit  this article from Detrot News (posted on Yahoo) is but here's the link:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/rumors/post/Chris-Kaman-wants-return-to-Michigan;_ylt=ApcqAheCX3ClHv20rlWRhZi8vLYF?urn=nba,206418

From brief sections of the statement:
"That would not be bad," the 6'10" Kaman said. "I have always thought about it, but I thought it might be a nightmare with ticket requests for every game."

"But he was raised in Central Michigan and would apparently be very happy to get traded to the Detroit Pistons, according to the Detroit News."

Not a great image your putting on yourself Kaman. 

Star-divide

Anyway, I like Kaman.  I really do...sorta.  But part of that tarnished a bit when he played for Germany in the Olympics.  I'm sure he had a legit reason, but I was hoping he would just stay and play for America.  There was talks that Kaman would be invited in the future, and sure he took the other better opportunity, but it just leaves me with an awkward feeling of semi-betrayal for me.  Probably nobody else agrees with me, but okay.

Right now, it kind of downputs my image on Kaman.  Kaman has been inconsistant these past couple of games.  The NBA has finally figured Kaman out.  And as Steve said (and this is just a remix version about a different player Steve was referring to) Kaman has yet to figure out the NBA.  I understand that Kaman was raised there, but I rather try and get a more talented player than Kaman.  I've put up with Kaman's injury season a few too many times.  I think I would prefer to have a better defending player such as (as stated) a hearlthy Prince and even Battier.  Maybe we can work a deal for Houston to send their beloved prize Battier for Kaman. 

I'm not too worried about a lineup containing Baron, Gordon, Battier, Griffin, and Camby. 

We don't need another player born and raised in LA, and we sure don't NEED to send Kaman back to Michigan when there's a trade... Just saying we can send him somewhere else besides his desired destination.

So while I was on another article reading about Kaman's value dropping with his previous preformances, maybe you readers can post  a trade idea for Kaman?

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Is Kaman for Tayshaun Prince a good straight up trade?
Yes
43 votes
Yes, but I rather explore my options (ie. LJHann, I mean Battier, etc.)
42 votes
No
45 votes

130 votes | Poll has closed

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Man

I had to figure out who that guy is…

Is he any good? The guy seems to have his games..

by JackduhSun on Dec 3, 2009 9:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Prince is injured

and a pretty bad injury by the way. He does have a great health track record, but once you get that bad one, who knows what’s gonna happen. DJ isn’t ready to step it up (thought he was before the start of the season).

Suppose you could move Kaman seeing as there’s a ton on bigs in the draft, though I think they’re more PF’s than C’s.

by dulciusEXasperis on Dec 3, 2009 12:13 PM PST reply actions  

Prince for Kaman only if Mike Dunleavy is included!!!!!!!

Horrible substitutions last night against the rockets. So i say include dunleavy in the deal.

by ENCUEROMAN on Dec 3, 2009 1:30 PM PST reply actions  

+1

Everything starts out New, Gets Old and Dies or is Destroyed.

by HVYDRT007 on Dec 3, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait a minute, Kaman's an all star

Remember? He’s the best, a 7 footer who can do everything. Just 3 weeks ago that’s what everyone was saying. How dare they leave him off the All Star ballot. We are so smart and the NBA brass are so stupid.

Now you want to dump him for an injured wing?

"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.

by Jax on Dec 3, 2009 3:16 PM PST reply actions  

You do?

Coaches don't matter. - Bill Simmons, The Book of Basketball

by John R on Dec 3, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Think about it!!!!

Why the heck would you trade Kaman for ANYONE ELSE? Unless I get Dwight Howard in return, I see no reason for getting rid of Kaman.

Look, we don’t have a deep center on our bench. Camby is not a scorer. DeAndre has been inconsistent. Rhino is not a true center. If I trade Kaman, it better be a pretty darn good center…a scoring center….

And with Gordon’s lingering injuries, there’s no guarantee Gordon can be 100% healthy the rest of the year. We need someone else who can score 15-20 pts/game for us.

Sure Kaman is inconsistent, but there’s no one currently out there who we can get for this season. Maybe we can wait during the offseason, trade Kaman, and try to sign Amare, but for this season, no way am I getting rid of Kaman.

by clipFanInSD on Dec 3, 2009 4:31 PM PST reply actions  

so...

the only way you trade kaman, is another center ?

by andrewexd on Dec 3, 2009 10:28 PM PST up reply actions  

uh....

duh! LIke I said, our center personnel aren’t deep to begin with. Camby is not a scoring center and DeAndre is not ready.

by clipFanInSD on Dec 3, 2009 11:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Atleast

he is honest. Who wouldnt want to play in their home town. calm down people

by ClipperMyth on Dec 3, 2009 4:56 PM PST reply actions  

Trade him!

Kaman is a big part of Clips problem, Clips can not have a center being this inconsistant. When you have all the talent and choose to use these talenst only when he feels right is not acceptable being a professinoal. Look at his contract year where he and Elton rack up all the numbers, then he took 1 year off to enjoy his fat check, then come back put up some play like last nite? How can you call him a pro? its like a doctor only treat you when he feel likes to treat you! How can you not have competitive instinc af you got posterized by Ariza, how did you got out rebound by Lndry,Hays,evenBudinger? they are mearly inchesssss shorter? your +/- were – 15!!!!!! last nite!

by ihcombo on Dec 3, 2009 5:13 PM PST reply actions  

cut ricky davis and butler

I am sick of these guys who dont produce in my mind, there has to be better options in the dleague, we need to get the next morrow or azubike

by ImranQ on Dec 3, 2009 5:59 PM PST reply actions  

Kaman is not the problem, except

when he’s treated as a primary offensive option. With EJ out and Butler stinking it up, he basically has to be one of our main guys (though I’d be calling AT’s number a lot more these days).

Some of our problems probably fall on Dunleavy, and certainly some on our injuries, but very little should fall on Kaman. He’s a good center who shouldn’t be the one carrying the main scoring load. With EJ and Griffin back, Dunleavy should ease off Kaman to the point where he’s just one among others who’s contributing.

by SilverClip on Dec 3, 2009 6:11 PM PST reply actions  

I completely agree

that Kaman shouldnt be our first option, but how is that possible when we have a coach like Dunleavy who loves setting plays and isolation plays for his bigs. The first basic thing we need gone is Dunleavy; then the team will thrive. Baron can play the running game he’s be playing with most of his career, not to mention Thornton, Gordon, and Camby (the guy can still run.) Seems to me Kaman isn’t too great on the run, but thats fine as long as Kaman isn’t our first option on every single play.

by JackduhSun on Dec 3, 2009 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I completely agree, too

and I’ll agree yet again if Dunleavy sticks with his big-guy-approach when the youngsters return. That is, if he still works disproportionately through Kaman, the yeah, he needs to go. I think things will eventually take care of themselves if he does: The Clips will lose, and DTS will have to see the light.

I’m not as convinced a Dunleavy critic as many/most others here. I’d be rather surprised if he doesn’t adjust his style once he has a full roster. Why? Because he’s not dumb, he has to know his players’ talents, and this Kaman thing isn’t working anyways.

But if he doesn’t see it, well, then I’m plainly wrong about his intelligence.

by SilverClip on Dec 3, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions  

HaHa hells yeah dude

but I really do think that we should hang on to Kaman AT LEAST until we can be certain his start was a fluke of Griffin is back.
I still like Battier, but there is a lot of variables.
Kaman was a fluke and Griff comes back pull the trigger
Kaman resumes his 20-8 keep him(or trade something like Battier+pick or role player)
Butler (re?) surfaces as a solid wing prescence- dont trade
Butler continues shooting abysmally trade
It’s too early to tell, but RIGHT NOW, if he leaves our lineup becomes depleted or SMALL
(either starting Craig Smith or Al THornton at PF and Camby at C or Camby at PF and DJ at C)

Oh wait!?!?!?! We have BRian Skinner!!!!! B-SKInNNnNZZzzZ!!!! Now we can trade Kaman and have a respectable starting lineup!!!

BG, EJ, BD LETS GO CLIPPERS!!!

by LJ Hann on Dec 3, 2009 7:13 PM PST reply actions  

I did not

not mean to cross those out, Remember that

BG, EJ, BD LETS GO CLIPPERS!!!

by LJ Hann on Dec 3, 2009 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey food for thought

Maybe we can throw in Kaman and another talent to Memphis for Gay?

by JackduhSun on Dec 3, 2009 9:59 PM PST reply actions  

I dont believe in the Gasol hype... yet

I know he’s been preformancing at a very awesome level these past weeks, but im still skeptical to believe that marc is as good – or even better- than pau. I still like Rudy… (even though as everyone said, if Kaman is gone, we remain dangerously thin at the 5…

by JackduhSun on Dec 4, 2009 8:26 AM PST up reply actions  

What difference does it make if he's better than Pau?

He’s his own player. The only reason you are comparing the two is because they are brothers, but that’s an unneccesary standard to hold him too.

More to the point, the only thing Memphis would/should consider if Gasol is a better player to have than Kaman. Pau would not be a point of consideration.

by Michael White on Dec 4, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

As far as player for player, it’s not a bad trade. But we don’t really need Prince at the moment, he’s not a great shooter, or scorer and we would be left with an old camby and a young DJ.

by andrewexd on Dec 3, 2009 10:29 PM PST reply actions  

My position on Kaman is

that they should wait until he does better and either trade him or fire MDSr because MDSr has no idea how to help him play as well as he can consistently.

Watch, if they trade him to a team with a ood coach, he will be more consistent and focused.

"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.

by Jax on Dec 4, 2009 11:30 AM PST reply actions  

It appears he believes the Clippers are a lost cause.

“I am not against it,” Kaman said. “I am not pushing for it. If it happens, it happens. I would not be upset. I like to win.”

by sqrebck on Dec 4, 2009 11:41 AM PST reply actions  

Why? If that's what he thinks I'd like to know it

I appreciate the honesty. He’s basically saying we suck. What I want to know is why he thinks we suck.

Good catch sqrebck

"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.

by Jax on Dec 4, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't

I don’t run my mouth about my employer, so I don’t see why we should applaud a millionaire for doing it. If he wanted to go to “a good team” he could have not signed with our team. Or you know, he could have played better such that this became a good team.

by Michael White on Dec 4, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I think we all kno Jax doesn't like Kaman

and its not that he doesn’t, but he wants Kaman to be traded; therefore, he probably doesn’t mind Kaman saying quotes like that. Same goes for MDSr…

by JackduhSun on Dec 4, 2009 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

You guys raise some good points

mwhite – you’re right, he shouldn’t be running his mouth.

Having said that, he did. Reading between the lines, he’s saying that it’s a lost cause as sqrebck says. Now that he’s said it, I want to know why he thnks that.

I do like Kaman. I just think he’s unreliable, overpaid and needs to be in a good structure.

"[Fans are] not technically a lot of times savvy. They don't understand and they don't weigh issues the way that [I] weigh them."
Mike Dunleavy, Sr.

by Jax on Dec 4, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

how credible is this...

the guy states that kaman is 6’10". Ummm he is is 7 feet dude. I think this is not a credible source, besides who wouldn’t want to play in there home state. Kaman is a good center still in the top 5 in the league, he is not a number one option day in day out. He can be when he is hot but shouldn’t be held accountable for the scoring load for the whole season.

by Spontane on Dec 4, 2009 4:47 PM PST reply actions  

Scary..

Kaman being top 5….

I dont think Kaman is top 5, but maybe around top 10 somewhere. Kaman isn’t consistant enough.

by JackduhSun on Dec 4, 2009 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Might I mention that thats a list

that doesnt include combo C’s such as Tim Duncan, Dirk Nowitzki, and Chris Bosh. Then again, traditional true centers are pretty hard to find.

by JackduhSun on Dec 4, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

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