Forgetting Christopher Zane Kaman
I'm one of those quiet citizens that reads numerous articles and post, with my constant responses only being heard by my Apple imac. But, I have to get something off my chest. It's a tragedy how underappreciated Marcus Camby truly is, and how obsess this franchise is with Chris Kaman. Now this isn't one of those illogical "unsavvy" fan rants about how I just hate Kaman because of his goofy demeanor and ridiculous hairstyle. No, although that adds to the equation, I feel that he is one of the better centers of this league, but just not the right center for this team. I'm not gonna get as statistical as Steve or Kevin would, but i will use common observations to support why we need to begin forgetting Christopher Zane Kaman.
Lets start by asking the question, "As a center, what is Chris Kaman's greatest strength?" I think we can all agree that it's his ability to score. Now mind you, I'm not saying he's great at this, I'm simply stating that it is HIS greatest asset as a NBA center, but more of that later. He is not a great defending center, he's not a playmaking center with good court vision, awareness, control, and high basketball IQ, and he's not a rebounding center. He is a scorer. Now I ask you this, "Do we need a "scoring center?" I agree that players that can score should always be welcomed on any team, but when that is all a player has to offer, particularly at such a vital position, it becomes a different matter. Moreover, examining this club, you will realize we're stacked with scorers in our lineup. Good scores. Hell great scorers, maybe not as late, but great scorers. Eric, the new and improved Al, a healthy Blake, and we all know what Baron is capable of. Thats four fully cable scoring options, why the hell would we want to tie up valuable offensive possession time with the ball in the clumsy hands of Chris Kaman. Now one could make a point that during a time like this with Eric back and forth with injuries and Blake out, that having a scorer like Chris is good to have around. Exactly, and this was his opportunity to show the Nation why Dunleavy been stuffing him down our throats for so long. And don't get me wrong he had some great games, but to be a "scoring center" you better be able to not only score, but score on a consistent basis. You're not defending so great, your not making "savvy"(I'm not letting that go Dunleavy) court decesions, and your not rebounding...so yes you better be able to score at a high consistent basis. Is he? Is he clutch? Would you give Chris Kaman the ball in the 4th quarter with 15 secs left down by one? A fair simple "No" is my answer. Actually it's common knowledge that Chris' performance decreases in clutch situations...and is that a great trait for a "scorer"? Fellow citizens, this was Chris' last opportunity and he showed us his scoring potential, but it's just not a good fit with this team.
Which brings me to my final point. Marcus Camby. Prior to the beginning of last season I was not considered a Camby fan. I didn't dislike him, but was rather indifferent about him. But after witnessing two seasons with him on our team, I dare to say that Marcus Camby is undoubtently this teams MVP. Aside from Eric's flashes of greatness last season, Camby's consistent performances was the only thing worth cheering last year. And his solid play only continued into this season. The tragedy is he does not get the recognition he deserves because he does it quietly. He's not pouring in a string of games of 20 plus performances, he's to busy consistently (no string) grabbing a zillion rebounds and swatting just as many shots. Lets look at question #1, but now pose it to Camby. What is his strength? Some will say defender. Does this team need that...ah hell yeah. Does he do it consistently....ah hell yeah. Some might answer rebounder...Does this team need that....ah hell yeah. Does he do it consistently....ah hell yeah. I agree with both, but would also answer, great playmaker. I could ramble off points to support this, but look no further than the Legendary Greatest Fourth Quarter of Clipper History. Who can forget "the pass"? Funny thing is, it didn't surprise me. News Flash, Camby is one of the best passing centers in the league. Also, which Kevin pointed out so well, Cambys ability to use his head and instruct Kaman on a vital defensive stop during live action is just the kind of leadership this team needs. Can we ever expect any of this from Kaman? Some Kaman fans may argue the age difference and state that Camby's years are numbered. True, which makes him perfect for this team. Camby still has a few more good years left in him, during that time he can continue to mentor our future center, D. Jordan. Do we want Christopher Zane Kaman mentoring our future center? Lets not make the same mistake that Toronto, New York, and especially Dever made. Good centers are hard to come by. Lets tie this guy up for the rest of his career. He is exactly what we need with Blake, Gordon, Baron, and Al...that lineup just makes me gringe with excitement. Kaman will only slow us down, by fumbling a past, or holding the ball too long, or by missing a defensive assignment. Keep Camby...and Forget Christopher Zane Kaman.
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I agree
I’m not really a Kaman fan either. I think he lacks the consistent energy needed to be an effective all around center. He seems to get down and sulk when things aren’t going his way. In last night’s game he did go to the basket a few times early which was good to see. Otherwise he seems to rely on the outside shot which hasn’t been falling lately. This keeps him too far from the basket to get offensive rebounds. He is very ineffective passing out of the double team and turns the ball over frequently. he also misses far too many easy shots around the rim.
I think he has a lot of value in a trade as there are several teams looking for a center and his contract is pretty reasonable. It would be nice to free up some more dollars for the 2010 free agent market if an expiring contract and maybe a draft pick were included.
I do appreciate Camby’s game and love seeing him gobble up rebounds and dive on the floor for loose balls.
I really like Marcus Camby as well but.....
let’s not forget that having Kaman on our team does wonders for Camby’s output. I do not think Camby would be blocking so many shots and rebounding this great, all by himself.
If Blake proves to be the beast that we’re all expecting him to be. Then I would start Camby and BG in the front court with Kaman coming off the bench.
I dont agree
I think Kaman has value and is an asset to this franchise. But i do believe he is better suited as a 2nd option like when Brand was on the team. When Blake is in the picture, I think Kaman will regain his confidence and you will see an improvement overall in Kaman’s game as well as the whole teams.
I think
he’s saying when EB was on the team, Kaman was the 2nd option
by thewhiteshadow on Dec 6, 2009 9:17 PM PST up reply actions
right, sorry if it didnt come out correctly
I think Blake will eventually be the first option. Blake or EJ. I think Kaman will thrive when he isnt forced to put up shots. I think they call it “pressing”
disagree
Kaman does a lot of little things also..i think he moves his feet very well for a big, and for the most part, when healthy, he is usually a lot to handle for the opposing teams. Do they fear his defense….no. Could you make the argument that he needs to be tougher around the room…yes..
But let’s not forget that when he’s on a roll, he’s a very productive. and let’s not forget that he is a LONGTIME Clipper. It’s like criticizing your own son when he hits a wrong note at Band Camp. And let’s face it..Basketball is made up of a LOT of notes..I feel like we owe him this season as a testament of what we can accomplish if we have faith in our plan. If we pull another stinker..well, we honestly gave it our best shot with the coach and this Center…let the chips fall where they will next year..
And ALSO!! When Blake Griffin gets back you’ll see how good this tandem of Kaman and Griffin can be. I think it will be a NIGHTMARE for the other team…
the snackbar
Or hot bad Kaman can get
Kaman has never had a breakout season with a dominant PF on his side. Kaman was 2.0, Brand was hurt. When Kaman is 3.0, Griffin is hurt, and Camby really isn’t a scoring option.
Actually i think that Kaman is a good rebounder and defender
and btw Dunleavy needs a low post presence to run his offensive sets.
Chris Kaman cannot be stopped
I understand frustration with Chris, it’s something we all deal with, but the guy is a really good basketball player. He’s a head case, but if he can just be the third or fourth option he would be absolutely fantastic. Also, this team does need scorers…you ever notice how often we go ten minutes of a game and score six points. Eric Gordon is a great scorer, Al is an okay scorer, Baron is an okay scorer, Blake Griffin when he gets back will be an okay scorer. These guys are all very capable, but EG Thizz is the only one you can count on for 20 every night. I love Marcus Camby, but he is older and he won’t be able to keep this up forever. Kaman is much younger and is a good starting center, something that most teams just don’t have. I really think there would be a lot of teams very happy to take Kaman off of our hands, and I think we would regret it if we let him go.
Yay yay.
there is something i do agree with you on
We need to lock up Camby for the remainder of his career. He is a great mentor/leader and I love his play on the court.
Kamans not the problem!
Tell me what center in the league who’s playing better than Kaman besides Howard or
maybe Bynum. So who do we trade Kaman for? The problem is coaching because with
Kaman you know he starts game really well but in fourth quarters is not so good. The
fourth quarter dudes should be on the bench ( kaman & Butler). If you analyze our
defeats have been in the fourth quarter. Bad substitutions is on coaching. I insist that
Novak should not be brought in for last second desperation shots. We should go
more to screen and rolls. This play would work better than isolations. I think the Kaman
and baron screen and roll works perfectly. I think Camby is playing great but he is
injury prone and after DJ having a great pre-season he has regressed.
Um..
Duncan, Bosh, and depending on how you look at it, Amare.
Its not how you start, its how you finish.
pass it kaman!
ive seen too many clippers games where the offense is dribble down and pass kaman the ball so he can shoot a 15 footer. he is not a shooter, yes he can shoot for a big man but if i wanna see someone taking 15 footers please pass the ball to butler or thorten. and if i see kaman take one more f#@$ing fadeaway im gonna hurt someone. you are not kobe even if you play in the same arena! you can find me in the 200 section yelling “pass it” at all home games every time kaman touches the ball
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