Clippers vs. Orlando - Open Thread
by Steve Perrin on Dec 8, 2009 7:30 PM PST
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PrintOrlando Magic at Los Angeles Clippers, Dec 8, 2009 7:30 PM PST
2009/2010 NBA Regular Season
vs
9-11 16-4
Staples Center
December 8th, 2009, 7:30 PM
Prime Ticket, 980 AM
Probable starters:
Baron Davis
PG
Jason Williams
Eric Gordon
SG
Vince Carter
Al Thornton
SF
Mickael Pietrus
Marcus Camby
PF
Rashard Lewis
Chris Kaman
C
Dwight Howard
The Back Story:
First meeting of the season. Orlando swept the season series last year two games to none.
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Hopefully...
Kaman got some Vitamin D in for tonight
"Where would the Clippers be without Sean Rooks?"
Hopefully it'll give him some good Vitamin D-Fense!
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Dec 8, 2009 7:41 PM PST up reply actions
Rashard lightin' Camby up...
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
I do.. our defense sucks
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Dec 8, 2009 8:04 PM PST up reply actions
I agree
CMDSr better do something. I don’t mind Craig Smith on DHow.
by RockyMountain on Dec 8, 2009 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
um
i think he’s referring to the stream of the phoenix/dallas game. lol
I'm thinkin' he would've been an upgrade over Taylor last season.
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Dec 8, 2009 8:09 PM PST up reply actions
These 3 balls are ridiculous.
Got to step it up on defense. Just guard the dam perimeter. Is it really that hard? 18 points alone from those 3 balls…..in 1 damn quarter.
by dulciusEXasperis on Dec 8, 2009 8:07 PM PST reply actions
Kaveman with his Vitamin D-Fense!!!!!!
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
Everyone is so scared of Howard on this team.. LOL
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
Nice to see Butler step in and nail some easier shots
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
Nice stream...
http://www.rwbsports.com/ch1.html
"Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted" – Albert Einstein
by Another son of Mike Smith on Dec 8, 2009 8:15 PM PST reply actions
Welcome.
"Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted" – Albert Einstein
by Another son of Mike Smith on Dec 8, 2009 8:56 PM PST up reply actions
If Kaman was as big and strong as Howard, he could really be a great player...
Guess he’d rather be on his fishing boat, than in the gym.
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
Craig wtf you doing
running the point…Jesus
by dulciusEXasperis on Dec 8, 2009 8:20 PM PST reply actions
LOL.. ridiculous
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Dec 8, 2009 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
This game is on the verge of a blowout
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
Gonna have to make the free throws in this one...
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
LOL.. I feel bad for Baron
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
YEAH BARON!
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
man, he was wide open
But it’s only 6, folks. The vibe is alright.
can the Magic keep it up?
If not- the clips could be in this
Whew.. so far survived 8 3-pointers by them..
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
Well
we stayed close
now its all about ouscoring them by 7 in the second half
BG, EJ, BD LETS GO CLIPPERS!!!
Butler for MVP
If only we played an A team every night.
We are in it...
the first few mintues of the 3rd will determine a lot for us. I wouldn’t mind Dunleavy playing the starters hard for the rest of the game with Butler coming in and out.
I thought DJ did alright on Howard
Just not his offense
He did
But Kaman seems to be stepping up a bit. Problem w/ DJ is those freethrows, Dunleavy can’t keep him out there if he can’t make a free throw or a dunk.
good teams don't have moral victories
Moral victories are for the losers.
by dulciusEXasperis on Dec 8, 2009 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
http://atdhe.net/10497/watch-orlando-magic-vs-la-clippers
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Dec 8, 2009 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
Baron collapses and Williams hurts us
We gotta try something else
http://atdhe.net/10497/watch-orlando-magic-vs-la-clippers
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Dec 8, 2009 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
YES!
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
EJ workin' Williams
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
rebounds please!
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
EJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOR THE LEAD!
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
Only 7 turnovers so far
…make that 8… I knew I shouldn’t have said anything.
by LancasterGordon4Eva on Dec 8, 2009 9:16 PM PST reply actions
Baron is friggin pumped
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
Gordon has 26 minutes logged
So how many do play him in the 4th?
What a lucky shot by Orlando.
We need something we’re unaccustomed to: a big fourth quarter.
I've got nothing.
forget that no american white guys without athleticism!
Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"
It's not Bassy's night
and I don’t know about Novak here
Howard needs to stop making his free throws!
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
They'll probably wait til the 6 minute mark
But let’s hope for 7
a champion lives where history is played
? never got that one
Here's our scoring drought... jumpshots..
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
a 4th qtr meltdown
This is going to be my team, and we're going to rise together.
-Clipper Darrell
well
I thought i would turn it off at halftime…
should be going to EJ..
oh well..
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
We've been capable of
holding on to Dwight, but now its Lewis killing us. I think we need to find a Q Ross type player for defense..
Finally EJ drives.. gets fouled
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
They all look real motivated, don't they?
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on Dec 8, 2009 9:46 PM PST up reply actions
Did you want some turnovers instead?
This is going to be my team, and we're going to rise together.
-Clipper Darrell
Would you like to play Dunleavy's isolation plays then?
Cause this is ALL I’m seeing, none of it being what helped us win in the Memphsi game.
You can't play fullcourt unless you get stops
Which obviously the Clips are not doing.
This is going to be my team, and we're going to rise together.
-Clipper Darrell
But
you can’ keep running the same: Baron holding onto theball, forces the shot. Kaman shooting that jumper. EJ driving. It becomes predictable. We need some better plays..
my god was that like 3 opportunities
and failed to score each time
by dulciusEXasperis on Dec 8, 2009 9:45 PM PST reply actions
lets put it on repeat...
EJ drives and is fouled
First few plays weren't bad is what I was saying...
Other players were missing open shots
Kaman's jumper... over and over again
"look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don't think they are going to do as good a job as I do." -Mike Dunleavy Sr.
I don't get that either. When he gets the ball down there
he should either go to the rack, or pass it out. What’s so hard about that. The J’s shouldn’t be a go to move, it should be the keep-your-opponent-honest move.
by RockyMountain on Dec 8, 2009 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
You can't run unless you get stops
This is going to be my team, and we're going to rise together.
-Clipper Darrell
if our players
had the balls to defy the oh so godly mike dunleavy
Unforuntately when Kaman hasn't shot...
IT has been wild runs at the basket by baron
This is going to be my team, and we're going to rise together.
-Clipper Darrell
"Pass it to kaman...
…he’s shooting less than 20% know what to do"
by LancasterGordon4Eva on Dec 8, 2009 9:50 PM PST reply actions
Kaman looked gassed
Immediate Vitamin D shot!
This is going to be my team, and we're going to rise together.
-Clipper Darrell
and to think fans thought he was an all-star earlier this year..
This is going to be my team, and we're going to rise together.
-Clipper Darrell
poor ej
he knows he’s efficient, yet mdsr wants to let his other 6 yr project player take the shots…sheeesh
Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"
Since we're down by like 11
and with only 2 mins left, might as well play Novak and DJ for experience.
To be fair, EJ was trying hard to get the ball either
but that could be there is no ball movement
don't bricks have to hit something?
Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"
4-5 yrs ago carter would have dunked that?
Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"
I said he is more known
Probably from his previosu achievements. But let’s also remember that Thornton just can’t shoot…
but he could have taken to the hole and possibly stop the clock
Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"
by Lawler's Law on Dec 8, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
sool can't take my grandma off the dribble!
Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"
by Lawler's Law on Dec 8, 2009 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
yes...we can get back into it...it's worked so far!
Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"
But he didn't play bad though.
I just don’t understand CMDSr’s strategy.
I don’t understand the substitution pattern more. Late 3rd, we were close or took the lead, with EJ and BD leading the way. Yet, he waited until 8minutes of fourth to start playing EJ, and then another minute before bringing BD in? What’s up with that?
by RockyMountain on Dec 8, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
I'm done with blaming game. I do however
question some of the strategy etc to release my frustration. Hopefully somehow magically CMDSr will get it through some unknown microwave or telekinetic or what ever.
by RockyMountain on Dec 8, 2009 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
Textbook on Clippers
Double team EJ, no matter where he is.
And one more thing that I forget… What was it, ChrisS Oaks?
I'll help.
Pass it to Kaman so he can brick a jumper.
by RockyMountain on Dec 8, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
you forgot sool for a brick/airball!
Roger Sterling: To my knees, Don. They're bringing to my knees!"
by Lawler's Law on Dec 8, 2009 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
Man did you see that
Howard gave away his jersey, shoes, some protections guards, etc etc. LUCKY ASS FANS
I didn't get to see the game. But the section where the away team enters/exits the
court are the most sought after and long held season tickets. Those are kept so you can see the stars from the other team up close. May have been a Magic fan, but yeah, that’s some luck.
We just suck! No heart. Rasul & telfair can't score for shit!
they just eat up mintues. kaman 19 shots! wtf? any other coach would have this team over 500 for sure. EJ needs to become a ball hog and jack up shots even if he is doubled.
JM
i thought about that too.
And I’m seriously don’t get EJ and BD feud. They need to get together and carry the team. The rest of them are only supporting cast, these two should carry the team no matter what. They need to work together!!
by RockyMountain on Dec 8, 2009 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
Any Unit w/out EJ
Is struggling. But the guy needs some rest. Wish he could play 48 minutes, but that’s just not the case.
Maybe Dunleavy should always go with the Telfair, Butler, Collins, Smith, DeAndre lineup that went on that crazy run against Denver, or maybe that was just a fluke.
I get that he needs some rest.
But, in this kind of game, maybe CMDSr should play him a tad more? Him and BD? The Magic is a good team, it’s really hard to get anything going against them. So all the momentum towards the end of third should’ve been kept going into the 4th. Sure he can sit them, but for that long? Surely for this kind of important game 2 or 3 minutes should be enough. By the time they both got back in the game, they were back behind by 8pts.
by RockyMountain on Dec 8, 2009 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
You think the Clippers suck?
If the Clippers suck, then what do you think of the teams that have less than 5 wins? This Clippers team has won 5 of their last 7 coming into the game tonight.
Speaking of the game tonight, the Clippers had the lead in the 3rd against the Magic, who are now 17-4. A 17-4 record and the Eastern conference champions of last season.
I do agree with you on EJ, but with him coming off an injury, he can’t take the majority of the shots. Give him a few more games, and he should be playing 40+ minutes, taking around 20 shots, and getting close to 25 a night.
Time for a trade
We don’t give yup any of the Starters or DJ but eveyone else is up with maybe a pick we need a boost off the bench. Maybe a pick but we need something no we can’t wait for Griffin I’d give up 2010 cap for a legit player off the bench.
This was my scouting report/strategy for the game tonight AKA Game plan, did the Clippers follow it?
Baron and EJ are the keys to this game. I would think in order for the Clippers to get this win BD and EJ will have to have 20+ point performances. Baron should be able to post up Jason Williams, and Eric Gordon should be able to dribble penetrate and run his defenders off screens for open jump shots. I feel the biggest miss-match is Camby vs. Lewis. Lewis can stretch the defense and put the ball on the floor. The Clippers might want to consider zoning up in a 2-3 zone. I doubt this happens, but it would work against the Magic. Force the ball outside in, rather than inside out. If the Clippers can limit their own isolation plays as well as keep the ball out of the hands off Dwight Howard, win the rebounding edge, the clippers can keep this close and maybe get a win.
The first couple of the game
was like watching the Magic/Cavs playoffs, where Anderson had to guard Rashard Lewis and gotten eaten up by all the 3s.
I still enjoyed watching the game
The 3rd was a great scoring quarter for EJ, but the Clippers settled for just taking the lead, instead of winning the game. I could sense that the Clippers made their run too early. The intensity and effort they played with in the 3rd could not be duplicated in the fourth. If you ask me, if the game is as close as it is 70-69, the starters need to stay in the game. Instead, the Clippers went to the bench and the Clippers struggled to score from the field in the 4th. At on point the Magic went on a 15-3 run. That type of run will sink any team.
THis game would have been much closer is the Magic had not hit so many 3’s and DH12 shot his normal 50% from the foul line, but those things did and didn’t happen and the Clippers got beat by a very good team.
just got back from the game...it was a good 3 quarters....unfortunately this isn't hockey and so we had another drought....
we don’t have a defensive problem….defense is actually pretty good….we have an offensive problem…it’s quite offensive to watch…we need a shake up in the starting line up and substitution patterns as well as….what we have is not working….no matter what/how you try to spin things….playing games less badly than bad teams to pick up wins isn’t a way to do things……
by whyamiaclippersfan on Dec 8, 2009 10:31 PM PST reply actions
I really don't understand
those lame Taiwan Tourism Board commercials.
It is
Taipei is an awesome city. More fun than NYC, Shanghai and Tokyo in my opinion.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Dec 8, 2009 11:09 PM PST up reply actions
The Team played Hard, the coach however...
I don’t get the substitution pattern at all. Collins comes in when Cater is out. Novack never plays when he could be useful, like in place of Thorton with the first team, when the D must actually have to double team someone leaving him open, or at at the ends of games, like tonight, when you need a miracle and he should have been in for Camby or at least Butler.
The bench except for Craig Smith is awful
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