Elgin sues the Clips
by oasisman on Feb 11, 2009 11:01 PM PST
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An AP news Feed
I don't know what to say about this. Again, we can bring up the dysfunction of the franchise, but it would have been nice if he was led out the door in a more graceful matter. Suing for racial discrimination seems to be nonsense, but who knows? Also he never really had a contract in the final years, as folklore goes, so we'll see how things turn out. Baylor was wildly unsucessful..and drafted Kandi.....the Clips should have let him go much earlier to avoid this nonsense. Yet more damage on the reputation of the team.
I think this quote says it all:
:“It’s hard to believe that he would now make these ridiculous claims after the organization stood by him during 22 years and only three playoff appearances. It would be hard to find any sports team that has demonstrated greater loyalty to its general manager.” Robert H Platt, Clips attorney
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A GREAT PLAYER...A LOSER AS A GM...FIRED FOR BEING TERRIBLE NOT FOR BEING OLD OR BLACK!!
One of the great players of all time keeps getting smaller and smaller and looking more ingnorant and out of touch with reality day by day. He made one horrible decision after another for 22 years in drafting and picking coachs and yes I know he was not treated with respect when he was released but they kept this alltime loser of a GM for 22 years of us having to live with his mistake after mistake. He was asked to resign so he could save face and wouldn’t do it so he was released quietly. The man is over 5 years past mandatory retirement age for most jobs and he was unfairly discriminated against when they force you to retire at 65 in 90% of all other jobs? Give me a freakin break here!!! The Clippers ought to get a award for sticking with this ungratful loser for so long. Now if they sued Sterling for being stupid in keeping Baylor on for so long with the results he delievered now that would be a lawsuit you could win!!!
Now if I was a owner I would think twice about hiring ANY black person as a GM thinking I might get sued and have the race card played against me because I might have to fire him someday. Elgin is setting back all blacks by playing the race card that was never there in this case especially!!! This is classic case of the dog biting the hand that feed it for 22 years!!! Sterling should get some credit for going with a black GM long before anybody else was willing to do it but now he is sued because he did. So what else could Elgin have done for the last 22 years otherwise? Shined shoes??? He isn’t smart or talented at anything to do with basketball except play it when he was younger…or wipe the sweat of the floor between timeouts after he retired from playing! If anybody disagree’s with that show me his record over 22 years…its the very worst in basketball history!!!
I am sure I will take some flack for this but OMG he is suing the only man who would give him a chance and did for 22 straight years inspite of the worse results in the history of professional basketball!!!! Good bye Elgin…and good riddance!!! Your showing how very very small you really are…and thats very sad because as a player you were huge…
Keep in mind
I haven’t read the complaint but most civil lawsuits you go after every possible violation, it doesn’t mean that action will ultimately be litigated. If Baylor has witnesses and affadavits supporting his claims then he’ll have a case. I’m sure his lawyers will also add Sterling’s other legal issues from before about alleged discrimination landowner practices in Koreatown.
Elgin did a poor job for sure, of course he was seen as just a front man for many years and he didn’t get much leeway financially to make any real deals so those are mitigating factors. He did a poor job of drafting, I mean honestly how many good picks did he make? He certainly had alot more misses than makes in that category.
If he was only making 350k (I know, “only” but thats alot less than other GMs) then it does say that he really had little decision-making power. It also said no other teams were actively seeking his services or else they could have easily offered more and stolen (if thats the right word for this situation) him from us many years ago.
No man is happy without a delusion of some kind. Delusions are as necessary to our happiness as realities. -Christian Nestell Bovee
by ClipperChuck on Feb 14, 2009 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
you would think too… that though there are tons of black GMs now, that when sterling first hired him it was probably comparatively rare .
Are there?
I can think fo Joe Dumars and Michael Jordan (who is an owner)… any other minority GMs (or decision makers) left? I remember the 76ers had Billy King who was fired a couple of years ago, can’t recall any others. Definitely not enough to qualify as “ton”.
No man is happy without a delusion of some kind. Delusions are as necessary to our happiness as realities. -Christian Nestell Bovee
by ClipperChuck on Feb 14, 2009 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
Isiah Thomas anyone?
Trying to think of some more….Billy Knight for the Hawks…drawing blanks now….
Nonetheless, the NBA is very diverse….in it’s head coaching and front office…compared to the NFL, NCAA, MLB, etc. Elgin was a pioneer, but towards the end, I don’t he he had the energy to handle day-to-day GM tasks. Drafting Melvin Ely an Chris Wilcox the same year….what was he thinking?
This is going to be my team, and we're going to rise together.
-Clipper Darrell
I count three
Dumars, Higgins in Charlotte (Rod Higgings is officially the GM, though Jordan has a hand in personnel decisions – either way, there’s an african american in charge in Charlotte) and Otis Smith in Orlando. So 10%. Of course, that makes the Clippers’ employment of an African American for 22 years more commendable in many ways – so it may strengthen a case against the NBA some, but I hardly see how it strengthens a case against Sterling.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Feb 15, 2009 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
haha
A couple of years a go i was fortunate enough to get in a closed clipper practice and witnessd baylor at his finest…. He was nodding off snoring the whole 3 hour practice!!!
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