Phoenix 142 - Clippers 119

by Steve Perrin on Feb 19, 2009 12:14 AM PST in Game Recaps Comment 49 comments

Final - 2.18.2009	1	2	3	4	Total
Phoenix Suns	30	37	36	39	142
Los Angeles Clippers	29	24	37	29	119

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It's a indication of how abysmal the Clippers have been at times this season that I can watch a game in which they gave up 142 points and lost by 23 and say afterwards: "that wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be."

The outset of the game is beside the point. With something in the neighborhood of 28 feet of bigs unavailable for the Clippers tonight, there was no way the Clippers were going to win this one. None. So although Al Thornton kept them close early, the outcome was never in doubt. At least the Clippers actually led this game briefly early in the second quarter. Trailing to the same team for 96 minutes would have been really embarrassing (as opposed to just losing by an average of 31.5 and giving up an average of 141, which was only a little embarrassing).

There are a few huge problems with this team right now that need to be addressed.

Defense

Here are the field goal percentages for Clipper opponents in the month of February:

Miami, February 2 - 56%
Orlando, February 4 - 57%
Memphis, February 6 - 49%
Atlanta, February 7 - 45%
Charlotte, February 9 -52%
New York, February 11 -45%
Phoenix, February 17 - 62%
Phoenix, February 18 - 59%

Half of the last 8 opponents shot better than 55% - all of them have shot over 45%. The Clippers have given up 119 or more in 5 of those games. The team's defense has gone way past poor. I really don't know how to describe it.

Marcus Camby has missed the last three games, and that has hurt to be sure. And the size discrepancy with the Suns hurt as well. But this is not an isolated incident. The team has completely abandoned any semblance of a defensive attitude - it's pretty clear that the team as a whole is following the lead of Baron Davis ("We don't pride ourselves in our defense") on this one.

Immaturity

During the off-season, I mused that perhaps Ricky Davis, Baron Davis and Jason Williams could form a 'Cancer Survivors Support Group' in LA, all three of them having developed less than stellar locker room reputations in their NBA careers. Well, Jason Williams retired, but the Clippers brought in Zach Randolph to fill that available 'head case' roster spot.

The issues have for the most part not been in the forefront. No arrests, no public run ins, etc. But the whispers of discord with the coach have been there all along. And now for these two games at least, we've seen some incredibly immature behavior.

In the Phoenix game, with the team already playing without their three best post defenders, Zach Randolph stupidly threw an unprovoked left at Louis Amundson, knowing full well that he would miss that game and likely more (it ended up being a two game suspension). A very immature play that hurt the team badly.

Tonight, with Zach now suspended such that the Clippers were even more short-handed, Ricky Davis picked up two technicals at the end of the third quarter and got himself chased. It's not even clear what Ricky was arguing about. If he wanted Baron's last second shot to count, well that's a really lame reason to get a technical foul. For one thing, the shot was clearly late. But more importantly, the officials were going to review the play anyway. That's what they do at the end of a quarter. So whether they initially counted it or waved it off, they were planning to watch the replay and get it right. Arguing about it was completely pointless.

Baron Davis

We're almost immune to it now. Our expectations have been steadily downgraded from 'All Star' to 'Top NBA point guard' to 'solid NBA point guard' to 'starting NBA point guard' to 'please get him out of the game.' Interestingly, MDsr did just that in the second quarter tonight: with Baron's minutes quite low and no foul trouble, MDsr replaced him with Mardy Collins for the last 3 minutes of the first half, which is the first time I can recall that happening this season.

Even in the second half, when he made 6 of 9 shots to finish with 14 points, he just looked terrible. He is slow, he can't jump, he can't move laterally and he can't shoot. Some players appear to play in slow motion - in a good way. A guy like Brandon Roy never seems to be going too fast, but he just gets by his man time and time again and the game looks simple for him. Baron Davis appears to be in slow motion too - in a very, very bad way. The game does not look at all simple for him right now. He looks like he's moving more slowly than the other players because he IS moving more slowly than the other players. Think about this - how many times did Fred Jones get to the rim in 30 minutes. How many times did Baron? He is either physically incapacitated, or simply disinterested. But he shouldn't be on the floor.

I'll tell you this much - Tracy McGrady has been terrible this year, and is having micro fracture surgery after 12 long, hard seasons in the league, and he'll be 30 before he plays basketbal again. TMac's career may be over. And I'd trade Baron Davis for him in a nanosecond.

I'll leave you with a few positives from this game, though I'm not sure what the point is.

DeAndre Jordan played pretty well. In 36 minutes he had 11 rebounds, 2 blocks, and 9 points. His positioning was better on defense (though still not very good). He boxed out on the glass, and as a result he out-rebounded Shaq 11 to 6. Playing against Shaq probalby helped him focus on boxing out - for one thing, it's hard not to know where the guy is. He needs to do a better job of boxing out every game, but that is certainly something he can learn. He actually converted 2 free throws on the same trip to the line for the first time this season. It's interesitng that his form looks fine on free throws. He's not Shaq or Chuck Hayes up there with a nightmare motion. But despite decent mechanics, the ball doesn't go in. He has lots to work on this summer, but if I'm his coach, free throws and boxing out are 1 and 1a. Post moves can wait another year.
Al Thornton scored well with a season high 33 points on 14 for 27 shooting. His inconsistency is quite maddening. Oh, and 3 rebounds in 37 minutes from the power forward position is not acceptable. Al had 1 defensive rebounds, and Amare Stoudemire had 5 offensive rebounds.
Eric Gordon on the other hand is quite steady - astoundingly so for a rookie. He scored 23 points on 12 shots tonight. He also had 6 assists, 5 rebounds and only 1 turnover, which are solid numbers. Let's hope we see more of those.

The Suns get another bad defensive team when they host Oklahoma City on Friday. And then on Sunday we get to find out how real this is, when they host the Celtics. Many, many people are happy about the return of high paced basketball to the Valley of the Sun - Steve Nash, Amare Stoudemire, Alvin Gentry among them. But probably no one is happier than the guys at ABC - the Suns are on national TV on Sunday, and they are fun to watch again.

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I didn’t think that we would get blown out by the Suns again tonight after last night’s game. Usually, when another team massacre you by 40 points, there is such a thing as pride that motivates you to play better. Sadly, that was not to be. We were short on our bigs, that is true. But that is no excuse to giving up layups after layups after dunks. We never stopped the ball in transition. It seems like EJ was the only one trying to play transition defense out there, and he picked up his fourth foul early in the third quarter for his trouble. That will teach him for trying to cover for the mistakes of his teammates.

There were scattered “Fire Dunleavy” chants in the stands tonight throughout the Staples Center. It’s kind of a futile gesture at this point. I don’t think anybody in the stadium really thinks that Dunleavy will be fired this year or next, regardless of how the team does from here on out. At least Baron wasn’t in the Conga Room tonight after embarassing himself out on the court. That would have been too much to take. Though at this point, it wouldn’t surprise me. When you have no pride, it doesn’t matter.

by MichaelCage on Feb 19, 2009 1:10 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Irony of Dunleavy Chanting

is that once he’s fired, the fun is over for a lot of the fire dunleavy crowd. sure, there are plenty of fans who want his head for the sake of the team’s future, but as most of us believe, it’s highly unlikely that he goes any time soon.

by ghost_ride on Feb 19, 2009 11:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not ready to give up yet

I’m just not. I guess the thing that really gets me down though is the fact that the pundits were right. We like to joke about the hacks at espn that give bad analysis, but the clips have exceed all expectations in the worst possible way.

But it seems obvious where the future of our team is, and that’s eric gordon. Everything we do from this day forward should be about building a team around him that suits his game because he is the franchise player in his rookie year. MDSR should spend these remaining games experimenting and finding out the best possible way to use eric. But he’s not going to… instead he’s gonna be the same coach that calls plays from the sideline and the team wastes almost all the shot clock trying to run it only to wind up taking a desperation 3… I’m sold. fire dunleavy… replace him with anyone… As far as bad coaching goes, he takes the cake right now… He takes 6 cakes… Actually he should open his own cake store, costco style. Hire some unknown college coach form a small school who’s hungry for opportunity and has new ideas or something… anything would be better than him and more cost effective. Someone at espn said last week the clips dont need Kaman to go 13-42, but that should be amended… We dont need MDSR for the clips to go 13-42

Most of all though, I just wish these players would remember they still have something to play for, and that’s us fans.

by cantthinkofagoodname on Feb 19, 2009 2:25 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

I agree with your last comment

but most of the players don’t give a shit about the fans. If they didn, they would show some pride on the court, which they don’t. Isn’t it weird to be saying that a rookie has come in and has become that franchise player. You’d maybe expect it when someone like Durrant hits OKT but people were saying Gordon would be a bust.

I totally agree. Everything from now on in, should be based around Eric Gordon. He can become a Dwayne Wade figure for this team so we need to put the correct personnel around him.

Personally, there are only a handful of players on this roster that I’d like to keep. Gordon, Thornton, Mardy, DJ, Novak. Everyone else has got trade value and I’d like to see moves made to rebuild around that core. Course it won’t happen though. More chance of the Warriors keep their opponents under 100 points.

Bingo! Oh me oh my!

by ClippersUK on Feb 19, 2009 6:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Gordon

“MDSR should spend these remaining games experimenting and finding out the best possible way to use eric.” Was it my imagination, or was he doing exactly that last night? In the fourth quarter, Gordon remained on the floor until the end. Obviously, he’s young and the court time remains a very good thing for him. Still, I wondered what MDsr was doing. Was he helping EJ pad his scoring stats in the ROY race? (He passed Westbrook in per game average last night, a few games ahead of schedule, and is now third among rooks.) Then I noticed that he was bringing the ball up court and starting the offense on some possessions, and on others he was posting up Dragic. So on this particular issue, give MDsr some credit – he seems to be using these opportunities to give EJ some experience in areas of his game he needs to improve.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Feb 19, 2009 10:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Noticed that

Last night, despite being a massacre, was interesting in how BDavis was used and how he played, and also the role of Eric Gordon late in the game. And you can add to that the roles of Mardy Collins, Fred Jones, and Steve Novak—and let’s not forget that Mike Taylor is still on the Clips’ roster and should return soon.

What do you do with all these guards?

I think we have to go a little bit easy on Eric Gordon and his future—he’s a bright spot in a dismal season, he’s solid and talented, he’s a great addition to the starting lineup, he has a beautiful shot and range and does all sorts of good things, but he’s got a long way to go before he’s a cornerstone franchise player on an upper echelon playoff team.

There is definitely a question now, however, with the meltdown of BD—who is still going to get all sorts of opportunities to start playing decent basketball (the line about downgraded expectations is a classic: “please get him out of the game”)—of going back to the idea that Gordon might end up playing PG. Oddly enough, through injuries and circumstance, the Clippers find themselves with a bunch of combo guards: Collins, Jones, and Gordon. The Clips had question marks at SG and 3 pt shooting going into the season, so it seemed like Gordon was a perfect fit, especially when it became clear that plays solid d and is able to hold his own and then some with taller SGs.

And some of us were waiting for Mardy Collins to come back from his minor injury, thinking that he would be a solid backup to BD after he did a nice job running the point. And again, we don’t want to forget about Taylor.

But it’s worth wondering what happens when you flip things around. (And this is based on the assumption that BDavis suddenly doesn’t exist, that he’s just a Stevie Francis/Stephon Marbury horrendous contract—just for the sake of argument.) What if you say that Eric Gordon is your best PG, that he’s like Westbrook or Rondo? You have a “pure PG” in Taylor, a good backup, who you can plug in at times, and Collins or Jones is third string. The question mark, again, becomes SG. You have Fred Jones and Mardy Collins, who both seem to be better and more productive than Ricky Davis at this point, and they both do a good job of complementing Gordon. In this bizarro version of the equation, you need another SG, another Eric Gordon—or a Westbrook, an OJ Mayo, a Brandon Roy.

So what does a Clipworld without Baron Davis look like, not just now, when it doesn’t matter, but in the future?

It would all be a lot easier if BDavis would just be decent, make things work for other guys, play some defense, and stop trying to score and throw daggers (that clank, quite pathetically at times), if he’s thinking “how do I get shots for Gordon and Novak and Thornton, and Randolph and Kaman.”

by citizen zhiv on Feb 19, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Please don't take the frustration out on us Blazers this Sunday.

Karma

by Sabonis4Ever on Feb 19, 2009 4:10 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

We've been frustrated the whole season

If we haven’t done it by now, it will never be done

by Qlippers on Feb 19, 2009 7:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I would feel really good about the Portland matchup if Zach and Marcus were playing. Zach is obviously out one more game, and I’m waiting to see if Camby will be out with a tummy-ache.

by Michael White on Feb 19, 2009 7:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Apparently he’s got a snotty nose, so he’ll have to miss 6 games.

by keify34 on Feb 19, 2009 8:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Camby has a ruptured ear drum

he has to have surgery to repair or replace the ear drum…he’s not allowed to fly

Give the guy some credit, he played thru the pain..unlike the other team players

He can’t fly w/ the team

by Qlippers on Feb 19, 2009 10:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

What a season

Who believes in curses?

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Feb 19, 2009 10:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I think we have to return

Elgin Sweaters to it’s rightful owner, Bill Cosby, to break the curse. I think it’s written on a scroll by the La Brea tar pits

by Qlippers on Feb 19, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Come on guys

There are no such thing as curses.

Our front office just sucks.

by cliptakular on Feb 19, 2009 10:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Our front office punctured Camby's ear drum?

Why did they do that? don’t they know not to stick the Q-tips IN the ear?

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Feb 19, 2009 10:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

lol

thought we were just talking about curses in general.

although, who was cleaning his ears? the trainers? Sucky front office!

by cliptakular on Feb 19, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Qlippers

Do you have a link for that info (WRT Camby needing surgery?) I can’t find anything online.

by Michael White on Feb 19, 2009 10:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

This was from Ralph Lawler's

interview w/ Camby

by Qlippers on Feb 19, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Lisa Dillman

Lisa D made a brief mention in her preview of yesterday’s game – she did not give the ’can’t fly’ bit, but that makes sense of course.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Feb 19, 2009 10:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Unbelievable

How long is he out for? A month?

Kaman-Randolph-Camby is proving just as hard to get on the court as Kaman-FElton.

by citizen zhiv on Feb 19, 2009 10:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm no doctor..

but i did put look up ruptured eardrum on WebMD.

A ruptured eardrum is a tear or hole in the membrane of the middle ear, usually as a result of injury (trauma). The eardrum may also rupture from fluid buildup in the middle ear.

The eardrum usually heals on its own in 1 to 2 weeks, usually without hearing loss. However, the injury or infection that caused the rupture usually requires treatment and a visit to a health professional

by Michael White on Feb 19, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I doubt he'll be gone long

you don’t use your ears to shoot. harder time hearing plays, yes, but i don’t think it’ll affect him that much.

by cliptakular on Feb 19, 2009 11:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Hey

There’s some good news.

by citizen zhiv on Feb 19, 2009 11:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

seems like...

There was some consideration that he could play last night. so he may have a travel restriction until the eardrum heals, but with the current down time between games, I think he’ll be ready for home games starting with the Dubs.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Feb 19, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Zbo

So we find out in the LA Times today that Zach Randolph’s father is critically ill, and he got the news just before the game on Tuesday night. I ask you: if you had that news, got killed by Shaq and Amare on the first 10 plays of the game while Deandre Jordan was sitting on the bench, and then you had Pony Boy getting in your face, would you get grouchy?

It turns out that Zach was probably going to miss last night’s game and perhaps the Portland game as well, and he got on a plane to go see his family yesterday.

Sad to hear it. Not the best reaction ever, but at least it makes more sense.

by citizen zhiv on Feb 19, 2009 8:00 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Didn’t know this. Thanks Citizen Zhiv. You got a link?

by keify34 on Feb 19, 2009 8:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Can't bail him out here...

There’s a 4 day gap between games this week, and it’s not like the Clippers are fighting for a playoff spot. The fact of the matter is the honey moon with Zach is over…his presence in our lineup carries us from a very poor team to an adequate one, but we found out on Tuesday at what cost. Hopefully it’s an isolated incident, but if it happens multiple times it’ll be another black eye to the organization, which is already feeling vulnerable. As bad as it has been, we find we can always sink a little lower.

by ghost_ride on Feb 19, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Isn't that a bit much

Yes Zach screwed up and threw a punch. But to call this team an “adequate one” with Zach in the lineup is off for me. Again, this team is .500 with Zach in the starting lineup (with no help from Kaman during that time and Baron Davis being useless.)

This organization should be concerned with winning basketball games, and as far as I’m concerned, Zach helps you do that. Most teams have guys with “character issues” but to run off Zach because of issues like this would be a major blunder.

by Michael White on Feb 19, 2009 11:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

I read the article saying he apologized to Dunleavy and that his dad’s illness was unexpected and that he’s relatively young (in his 50’s). That puts it in better perspective.

by ghost_ride on Feb 19, 2009 11:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know...

I’m ready to cut him some slack now. It seems like this was a special, sad set of circumstances. It should be an isolated incident, part of a horrendously ugly game.

by citizen zhiv on Feb 19, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

May do a longer post on this, but...

When it happened, one cynical reaction was “I guess Zach didn’t really want to play this game.” It just seemed like a blatant attempt to get tossed. Knowing that he actually DIDN’T want to play, with relatively good reason, makes one look at it differently for sure.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Feb 19, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Pony Boy

That’s funny.

F-Elton!

by mikey p on Feb 19, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Sigh

Same ol’ Clipshow. A horror show that is. No defense, sporadic offense, maddening decision making, unbelievable inconsistencies… just pure Clipperball at it’s worst.

Baron was horrible, then good, then horrible.
AL had a very good game and made a lot of good decisions about when to drive and when to shoot the J but by the middle of the third and with an arch-injury, he reverted back to the AL of only a few games ago where he makes all the wrong choices.

For me, there are only a few brighter than bright spots and one almost bright spot on this team right now:

Brighter than bright
- Eric Gordon. He’s got the body of a seasoned pro and he’s just starting to learn how to draw contact and make the and 1. An impressive quality to learn for a rookie and if you add that to his already veteran-esque game, keeping him is a no brainer. Bill Simmons asked on his podcast if his friend, Joe House, would trade EJ for Rudy Gay. Under no circumstances would I allow that to happen.
- DJ is still enthusiastic and in a team that is crushing our spirits, I pray that continues. He’s improving. He still makes me cover my eyes on certain plays at both ends of the court, both overall, I like the kid. A lot.
- Fred Jones has been showing up the Davis’. He’s playing like he’s still on that 10day contract. Good for him because he’s showing he cares and that’s all we ask for.
- When Camby and Randolph play (and don’t punch guys in the face) I think we have a chance of winning. When they don’t, I don’t. Speaks volumes about their impact.
- Steve Novak is showing he’s a really solid sharpshooter. I have no doubt the ball is going in when it’s in his hands. Do NOT let him go MDsr.

Almost bright spot:
- Al Thornton needs to show more consistency otherwise, after the Portland game we’ll all be scratching our heads at how maddening his inconsistency is.

Overall, I’d only make DJ, EJ and Stevie Novak offlimits.

The rest? Well, I’d trade them all for a bag of peanut M&Ms.

by keify34 on Feb 19, 2009 8:05 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

On the Suns

The Suns got some fool’s gold by playing the depleted and confused Clippers coming off the All-Star break. It seems to me that their bench is extremely thin and almost non-existent, and Shaq may be somewhat effective now but he’s still going to play limited minutes, and he was going up against DJordan and a few minutes of Zach Randolph. It’s nice that Gentry was able to get off to a good start, but they don’t seem to me to be a very competitive team. Blowing out the Clipper JV team back to back doesn’t say much. I don’t think they would be blowing out the Clippers with Camby, Kaman, and Randolph all playing, and the Clips had no post presence of their own and didn’t have anybody who could even begin to matchup with Amare.

by citizen zhiv on Feb 19, 2009 8:09 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Did you read Phoenix Stan's recap?

It was pretty interesting. He was saying much the same things. He is very worried that the team is going to get full of itself after two easy wins over a terrible team. (They play OKC next, which although they are playing better, is a horrible defensive team also. Then comes Boston.) Phoenix’ defense last night was terrible. Al would cut to the high post and no one seemed to notice or care. They remain paper thin. (Other than Barbosa, I’m not sure there’s a legitimate pro on their bench.) And we’ll see what happens when they’re in a relatively close game, and they need Shaq running for more than 20 minutes of giggles.

They’ve looked great, and it’s a huge confidence boost for the new Gentry era, and it’s not their fault the competition was bad. So I’m not saying it’s not good – it’s great for them. But it’s not proof.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Feb 19, 2009 10:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

On the other hand...

It should be a nice confidence boost for the Suns, also giving them a chance to reacquaint themselves with this style of play. This is a veteran team, they have to know their real challenges lay ahead.

by ghost_ride on Feb 19, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Immature is right

Emotionally, Gordon looks more of a veteran than Randolph and RD. Although, sometimes, I wish he weren’t so modest. Remember when he had the break-away steal? I wish he had done something spectacular than a soft two-hand jam.

And how come J. Rich only had a one game suspension? I mean what’s worse, driving 60 miles over the speed limit with your child unrestrained in the back seat or “punching” (more like pushing) a 20 something year old 200 pound guy on the face?

Richardson should go to jail just for child endangerment. He could’ve easily killed himself, and unfortunately, the kid as well.

by cliptakular on Feb 19, 2009 10:30 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

different jurisdictions

JRich may still go to jail; that’s for the AZ courts to decide. The Suns were the ones who suspended him for a game. The NBA doesn’t usually get involved in suspending players for off court behavior. Zach threw a punch on the court, so Stu Jackson is the judge.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Feb 19, 2009 10:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

He could hang with Michael Vick

It’s funny that he thought it was okay to drive like this even when he’s not under the influence of alcohol, or anything else for that matter. Imagine what other wrong decisions he would’ve made if he was.

by cliptakular on Feb 19, 2009 10:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

correction it was 90 miles

by Final692 on Feb 19, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

no, I did mean 60 miles over the limit. I believe he was in a 35 mph zone running at 95 mph.

by cliptakular on Feb 19, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

oh right, my bad im not reading details haha

by Final692 on Feb 19, 2009 9:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Last thing

I don’t understand why we can’t do plays as easily as the Suns does. Simple pick-n-roll and cutters were the only things that the Suns seem to do last night. I don’t know why Dunleavy kept implementing plays that sucks out the whole shot clock.

I’ve also noticed that last night, a lot of our players were caught ball watching (i.e. just standing outside the perimeter). When Dunleavy stops calling plays, our players seem to be lost on the floor so they start doing this horrendous one on one plays (i.e. BD’s laughable and embarassing air-ball).

I think somebody needs to teach his players how to play when a play is not called, if this makes sense. You know, fundamentals, like floor spacing, pick n roll etc.

by cliptakular on Feb 19, 2009 10:47 AM PST reply actions 0 recs