What is wrong with Baron?
by citizen bob on Feb 21, 2009 11:21 AM PST
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What is wrong with Baron? I saw a clip of him shooting 3's and he is awesome. A guy just doesn't forget how to shoot. Most of the time, an injury changes their routine and although the mind tells them to do something, their bodies just don't respond. Could this be the problem with Baron?
I watched the other night Baron dribble the ball up the court and he was moving to the left and the right, spin moves, post up's - he was unstoppable on the dribble. I have seen him make passes, no Clipper point guard has ever been able to make. As a point guard, he is incredible - until it comes time to shoot. Shots that rookies are expected to make clang off the rim for him. Let's face it, Baron knows how to shoot, we have all seen him do it. Just not on this team. Not consistently anyway.
So why is this phenominum occuring? Is it because Baron is injured? Is it related to Dunleavy's style of play? Is the teams players not compatible with Baron's skillset? Maybe Baron is more interested in movies and refuses to train. It is an enigma.
The point of this article is to discuss Baron's upside. Sure if Elton didn't lie to us, Baron would probably not be a Clipper. But we have him now and nobody else wants him - so expect to see a lot more of Baron in the future. I for one am going to cut him a break. As a passing and ball moving PG, Baron has more skills than any prior Clipper. He just needs to attack the basket more and reduce the difficulty on his shot selection (at least till he is healthy). It is hard for a top level PG to play with a crappy team that loses all the time. It is humiliating and saps your motivation. This year is a write-off anyway due to injuries.
Dunleavy needs to hand this team over to Baron for the rest of the year and see what happens, His style has been unsuccessful every year but one. In that year we were defensive monsters. With Baron, Thornton and Randolph, we will never again be defensive monsters. We need to work to our strengths and those strengths mesh well with Barons style. He likes it fast, PG dominated and unstructured. Even he doesnt know where the ball with go most of the time. With all the shooters on our team, we need to average over 100 to be winners. Dunleavy likes to score 80-90 points per game and that wont cut it with this team.
What do we have to lose? I think the team needs to have a meeting and create an agreed upon playbook. Dunleavy is having a rough year - if he is going to stay he needs to make some adjustments. Otherwise, we need someone else leading our team next year.
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why can't he make those in a game !!
I sort of agree with you. I do believe this style of game does not fit his best play style, but if that was the case he should of had a huge game in both the Phoenix games. I don’t really think we have much of a choice in what to do with Baron so we can only hope he finds his rhythm and works hard in the off season so we can start next season right.
by bestclipfan on Feb 21, 2009 3:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
somethings definitely not right...
barons been missing a lot of lay ups too. i wonder if its motivation or physical problems thats hampering his game. hopefully he figures it out in the off season cause i dont think hes going anywhere…
by krapper11 on Feb 21, 2009 6:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
TJ Simers
Simers, who can be so crazy, does a pretty good job of going after Baron. The funny thing is that Baron still thinks he can turn it on and off. He says he’s not dogging it, but he doesn’t explain why he’s playing so badly either.
It seems like a combination of factors. He was “dogging it,” or call it playing with a lack of enthusiasm. And there were some injuries, mostly minor, but the injuries to other players have made the team noncompetitive. So he finds himself playing for nothing, which means he’ll go in and out in his enthusiasm.
It’s kind of a perfect storm—designed to sink Baron Davis and for him to shoulder the blame. It was one thing when there was a shred of hope and it seemed easy and simple to blame Dunleavy. But that’s long over now. Baron Davis has to show that he can play. Dunleavy has nothing to do with.
So in a way Simers’ article and approach come a little bit too late, and they’re a little bit off kilter. It should be: are you “dogging it,” Baron, or are you just not very good at this point? What do you need to do to get better? As a volume shooter, how do you see the impact of your fg% dropping from the low 40s to 35 and sinking fast? Should you be working harder to get shots for Gordon and Novak, and creating better opportunities for Al Thornton, the team’s leading scorer? How do you see your role?
You’re not on a playoff team, you’re waiting for guys to get back, so what are you going to do?
by citizen zhiv on Feb 22, 2009 9:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Simers also noted that this is MDSr’s mess and that the team should immediately retain either a new coach or GM.
I suspect that BD might be hurt more than he lets on, and that we need to question why we signed a 29 year old pg to a five year, $65M contract.
by Jax on Feb 23, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
its the coach
Barons picky about that, he likes to be free, likes to be in charge of his team
by gswfan1 on Feb 22, 2009 1:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nothing is wrong with Baron...
he just sucks. I’ve come to this startling conclusion after watching him closely all year. Baron doesn’t know how to play basketball He should take up cricket.
by MichaelCage on Feb 22, 2009 5:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
He's a professional or he should act like one
He is well compensated doing what many of us do for free (but much worse) at the gym and park. It doesn’t matter if he hates Dunleavy or not, he still needs to go out there are compete.
Here is what he wrote on Yardbarker at the beginning of the year.
“Clipper Nation: I know you have been patient a long time but I’m here to assure you that you are gonna be proud to be a part of this season.”
4 months later I’m now trying to figure out what we’re suppose to be proud of?
No man is happy without a delusion of some kind. Delusions are as necessary to our happiness as realities. -Christian Nestell Bovee
by ClipperChuck on Feb 22, 2009 7:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That
really made me laugh
Bingo! Oh me oh my!
by ClippersUK on Feb 23, 2009 5:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, let's go down the list, shall we?
There’s his production company, his club, his really hot girlfriend, his new movie, the fact that his best friend is married to Jessica Alba, Grandma’s cooking, flyfishing, being back in his hometown, his beard which makes him look like a hobo. Unfortunately, nothing related to basketball, unless he’s mistaken and thinks that fans are supposed to be proud of his ability to complain, pick up technical fouls, ballhog and get a scholarship to a private high school to play basketball, go to UCLA and then disgrace everyone at those two institutions with this crap that he calls basketball.
Isn’t everyone proud of that?
"When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished by how much he'd learned in seven years." -Mark Twain
by WestsideBrandon on Feb 22, 2009 10:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe on the initial interview...
he didn’t realise it was a basketball journalist.
I’d be really proud if someone in the crowd ran on court and tried to pull his beard off to see if it really is Baron or some imposter.
The real Baron Davis would you please stand up cos this fraud needs a good kicking! I’m not a violent man but Baron is slowly turning me into the Incredible Hulk.
To all the people with season tickets, does he get a big cheer when he is announced or do people boo? I know what I would do!
Bingo! Oh me oh my!
by ClippersUK on Feb 23, 2009 5:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
so he actually doesn't suck...
that bad
by highriser on Feb 22, 2009 11:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Bottom line is that
If Baron, didn’t want to play for Dunleavy, he should’nt have signed with us. He’s naive if he thought that Dunleavy would adjust to him instead of him adjusting to Dunleavy. I don’t think he’s throwing away games, I think that he just really sucks during actual games. Anbody can make jumpers during practice.
by cliptakular on Feb 23, 2009 9:35 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
doesnt want to be a clipper
an not motivated
by nateoak10 on Mar 2, 2009 5:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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