Clippers 118 - Golden State 105
So what do you think it was? Was it T.J. Simers calling him out, accusing him of dogging it, in a column in the LA Times? Was it playing against his old team? Was it having Zach Randolph and Marcus Camby back on the court with him? Whatever it was, in the 57th game of the season, Baron Davis actually looked like the guy the Clippers thought they were signing. I mean, he's had some OK games this season. He's hit a couple of big shots. But for the most part, Baron has been at best a contributor, but never really the engine moving the team forward. Tonight, for this one game at least, that's who he was.
In fact, after he propelled the team to a 17 point lead late in the third quarter, the Clippers quickly give up 10 straight when he went to the bench for a rest. How many times this season have you thought, "Oh boy, we have to get Baron back in there"? Not many times.
Baron made several moves tonight that were reminiscent of the guy who led the Warriors into the playoffs two seasons ago. He was crossing people over, getting to the rim, and finishing plays. He still doesn't have the elevation he had before - and when he was asked about the Simers column, he referenced nagging injuries that have kept him from being his best this season. But he was plenty good tonight, even without the elevation. If he is still dealing with physical issues, and still has more room for improvement, that would be very good news. He finished the game with 25 points on 9 for 20 shooting and four three pointers. He also pitched in with 9 rebounds and 10 assists, coming within a single rebound of his first triple double as a Clipper. He still hasn't shot over 50% this season, but when you factor in the four threes tonight, his effective field goal percentage was 55% - I'll take that.
The Clippers got 79 points from Randolph (27), Gordon (27) and Baron (25). Randolph was far from sharp - he made only a single jump shot from outside of the paint - and he probably would have had 40 against the Warriors had he really been on his game. The were defending him with Maggette for a large portion of the fourth quarter. Are they kidding? But even a less than sharp Zach Randolph is a major force on offense, and as we've seen frequently this season, the Clippers offense suddenly looks coherent with Zach in the game. The point becomes a little lost given how infrequently the team has been healthy - after all, who cares how they might play, if it never actually happens? - but 10 of the Clippers 14 wins this season have come with Zach Randolph in the starting lineup. That's pretty tough to ignore.
Gordon started off terribly - he was one for his first eight, and he also had several turnovers in the first quarter. When he was struggling early, I made a bold prediction on the game thread - I said he'd score 20. And after starting 1 for 8, he made his next 8 in a row, including a career high 6 threes. When the Warriors made a run to cut the lead to three in the fourth quarter, it was Gordon who nailed back to back threes to stretch the lead back out to 9. He finished with 27 points on 17 shots. He's two things that rookies almost never are: consistent and efficient. And he's only 20. If he improves as 20 year olds usually do, he's going to be very, very good. Actually, he's already very, very good. So I guess the next stop is great.
The truth is, Randolph, Gordon and Baron (this Baron, not that other Baron) should be able to carry the scoring load almost every night for the team. Whatever they get then from the likes of Al Thornton and Chris Kaman and others is just gravy.
Of course, neither of those guys were playing tonight. Facing the Warriors, and having some ongoing personnel issues (no Thornton, no Kaman, Camby on limited minutes due to his ear infection), MDsr decided to play small ball to match up with the Warriors. He started Mardy Collins and Fred Jones as the forwards, Zach as the center. I usually hate this sort of move. By changing your lineup to try to address your opponent's lineup, you're playing into their hands. And indeed, midway through the first period it looked like a disaster. The Dubs broke off a 19-2 run to take a 14 point lead. But Baron and Marcus Camby brought the team back at the end of the quarter, and Camby's three pointer as time expired tied the game.
The rest of the way, the small ball lineup worked pretty well. Fred Jones is a very good player, and he had a terrific game tonight. He had a couple of dunks in the third that illustrated why he's a former NBA Slam Dunk contest winner. And Mardy Collins did a good job as well. So, no I don't really like the strategy of trying to match up with the Warriors and play their game, but it's hard to argue with the results tonight.
One thing that was very positive tonight was the team rebounding. Playing against the crazy Warriors, there just aren't a lot of bigs on the floor. That means more rebounds for everybody, and the Clippers did a good job of tracking them down. Baron had the aforementioned 9 boards, EJ had 7, Collins and Jones 6 each - it all added up to 47 - 39 rebounding edge for LA, despite that fact that Camby had only 6 in his limited minutes.
It's a busy week for the team. They've got three more games before Saturday, having just played back to back games Sunday and Monday. Wednesday against the Celtics is going to be difficult, even without Kevin Garnett. But there are several very winnable games in the next couple of weeks. If the team has any intention of putting together a season-finishing run to convince people that they can be a competitive team when healthy, now would seem to be the time. And maybe Baron Davis can prove he's not dogging it, even against a team other than the Warriors.
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…but I would put them in the reverse order.
1. Randolph and Camby back. This makes the Clips a different team. Camby’s minutes were obviously crucial in reversing the Clip 1st quarter slide, after GSW went on a 17-2 run, as he hit three shots and then tied the game. And he had a nice block and some plays when they looked like they were going to break open the game, before GSW went on that 10-0 run when BD went out.
The amazing thing is that Randolph was effective, but far from sharp. He kept missing jump shots that seemed automatic when he was killing it. He’ll hit more of those. And Gordon’s slow start was also uncharacteristic. But I would say that the Randolph-Camby factor was the primary element in BD’s effort. Instead of being hopelessly overmatched, the Clips seemed like they had the stronger roster.
2. Playing against old team. And not just that, but no Ellis. It seems like BD knew that he had enough support to be able to lead the team to a victory, and he knew the weaknesses of the opponent. Like, that they don’t play a lot of tough defense. GSW without Baron, vs. the Clips with Baron—it’s an equation that almost forces him to be the difference maker.
3. TJ Simers. Definitely a factor. It’s weird how BD is so responsive to the LA Times, but he must have grown up on it like a lot of it. The BD-Dunleavy situation got much worse after Plaschke wrote about it, and Dunleavy took all kinds of heat. But then the wheels came off and BD’s shots stopped going in. It turned out that it wasn’t really about Dunleavy as much as it was about injuries and BD making an effort.
This upcoming Boston game—with no Garnett—should be interesting. With Zbo and Camby, and maybe Thornton back, it would be nice if the Clips don’t get blown out.
Baron!!
I’ve always loved that guy.
Fred Jones played awesome tonight, what’d he have like 4 steals? I was wondering when he was going to bust out his slam dunk contest dunks. Finally he did and it was fun, I’m going to look for that poster he made Turiaf in to on the internet
Fred Jones v. Ricky Davis
Shouldn’t Fred Jones (and Mardy Collins) be ahead of Ricky Davis on the depth chart? Maybe they were for this game, and it was just hard to tell because Thornton is out and Camby was just coming back.
Jones seems pretty solid, and he’s like a better, more consistent version of Davis2.
by citizen zhiv on Feb 24, 2009 8:10 AM PST up reply actions
Well...
Jones and Collins started, while Ricky came off the bench. So that would seem to be first on the depth chart. :)
I’m loving Jones, but he’s going to be undersized at the three, which is where we need him most. It’s weird – he seemed so much bigger at Oregon! At any rate, he seems like a very good pickup – maybe not ‘Bobby Simmons’ good, but certainly ‘Quinton Ross’ good.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Feb 24, 2009 9:15 AM PST up reply actions
Are we sure?
I would like to think that Collins and Jones starting means that they’re both ahead of Davis2, but I don’t trust it. The fact that Jones played so well is a very good thing.
You’re right about Jones seeming bigger at Oregon. It all kind of came rushing back when he made that dunk. He has seemed like a solid journeyman, has played well and hit shots, but we didn’t see explosiveness and contributing to a winning effort.
Collins hasn’t been as sharp as he was before his injury, but he seems to be making some progress too. I wish both Jones and Collins were quicker at recognizing Novak and Gordon and getting them shots, but they’re not horrible.
We won’t really know the depth chart until Thornton comes back. And Novak will get minutes at the 4 until Kaman comes back—it’s somewhat interesting how Novak didn’t play in the 2nd half. I would argue that Davis2 took his minutes. And Davis2 didn’t even play so badly last night.
Somehow I just don’t trust the rotation last night. It’s as if Dunleavy let Collins and Jones start because the Dubs have a weird lineup, but Davis2 still has his spot as the first wing off the bench. Fingers are crossed that that’s over, that Jones played well enough as a starter and did more with his minutes, so that he’ll be in front of Davis2.
And Dunleavy hasn’t figured out how Mike Taylor fits back in yet. How is Jason Hart still on the roster? I didn’t think about it, but we could have had Fazekeas on a 10-day, which would have been fun.
by citizen zhiv on Feb 24, 2009 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
Dunleavy doesn't like using Taylor against running teams
before Taylor got injured he never played him against teams that liked to run. He was probably worried that having Taylor who likes to run the ball would encourage the warriors to run. But we will see, I hope he gets minutes because he was looking very good pre injury.
by bestclipfan on Feb 24, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
I was being a little snarky...
Yeah, the Dubs are a special case. And Ricky may be MDsr’s first wing of the bench, regardless of who is starting. He may just like him off the bench. (Although it is interesting to note that he hasn’t hesitated to put Ricky in the starting lineup in other situations, sometimes when it seemed like a horrible idea.) And since the Dubs are such a special case, it’s hard to get too excited about Jones’ performance – some guys just thrive in that situation. He’s played well this season, but I’m not sure I know what his role is on a good team. He’s not a point guard – not even a backup point, really. So is he a defensive wing? He hasn’t really shown himself to be a lockdown defender. But he does things to help the team, and doesn’t seem to hurt the team, so let’s keep him around.
Ze Freak is in France. A little tougher to sign him to the 10 days.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Feb 24, 2009 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
Worthy of in-depth study
Just spent a little time looking at the stats on Novak, Jones, Collins, and Davis2, and I’d be curious to see how others might break it down.
Timely injury to Ricky Davis really helped the Clippers cause, relatively speaking, and it combined with shipping out Tim Thomas to make them a much better team—if they can just get their big guys out there. The best thing about Davis2’s injury is obviously that it combined with Mobley’s departure to make Eric Gordon the obvious SG starter, to start racking up the minutes and productivity.
The interesting thing is that this foursome are all within 29 minutes of each other now in mins. played, and Jones and Davis2 are only 2 minutes apart:
SN 717/FJ 724/MC 697/RD 726
The obvious conclusion of looking at the comparison is one thing: play Steve Novak. He has 90 more points than Davis2 on 17 more shots. When you can get him into the game, do it. He should shoot more 2 pt shots too: he’s 42-74 .568 from inside the arc. And his percentages must be down after the last two games. His rebounding isn’t inconsequential either at 14-65-79, although Collins gets rebounds too 25-60-85. Davis2’s meagre 9-46-55 is part of the Clipper guard/wing corps’ rebounding woes that have really hurt the team.
Jones and Collins make up ground in their assist numbers and assist/turnover ratio, since both filled in at PG when BD was out. It’s FJ 114/44 2.59, MC 89/49 1.82, and RD 73/37 1.97. You know what that says to me? That Fred Jones got the ball to Steve Novak and Eric Gordon a fair amount, maybe with a little Zach Randolph thrown in. And giving the ball to Novak and Gordon instead of Davis2 makes your A/TO ratio go up.
The hope of course is that we’re finally approaching the time when we get to see the Clippers at full strength. The question is how to find minutes for Novak, especially when Kaman comes out from the Kaman Zone (let’s hope that he hasn’t sucked Al Thornton in there, with his groovitational pull). A good argument can be made that Novak should be the first wing off the bench, based on these numbers. Maybe Dunleavy should just pretend that Novak is Tim Thomas somehow. With Jones and Collins so close to Davis in minutes at this point, and definitely more productive, it’s hard to see how they don’t play in front of Davis2. Combined with time for Novak, it should drastically reduce Davis2’s minutes—although that’s not how it worked out last night. So we’ll see.
by citizen zhiv on Feb 24, 2009 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
don't hold your breath on Kaman
out 2 more weeks. Apparently he was making progress but then caught the flu. I am starting to doubt that he will play again this season which is really stupid since it wasn’t that bad of an injury (as far as we know).
Two weeks seems excessive
I know Milph mentioned something like that, but it doesn’t sound right. Apparently he had resumed “basketball activities,” something we Clipfans are all too familiar with, but then he caught the flu. My sense is that means he sits out this week’s flurry of games, but we see him back doing those basketball activities over the weekend.
We’re getting pretty close.
Step one is Camby and Randolph in the starting lineup against Boston—that’s Perkins and Scalabrine (11 mins against Denver), in case you’re wondering, with Powe and BabyDavis—hey, why isn’t that guy on our team, Davis4! or would he be Davis3 now? Paul Davis is Davisnomore—both playing about 30 minutes. But maybe former Clipper Mikey Moore will be a Celtic by Wednesday.
by citizen zhiv on Feb 24, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
Good stuff...
You know, you do have front page rights… you can write this stuff in a FanPost or even a front page post if you like. It tends to get buried down here in the comments.
The rebounding numbers are particularly interesting. If RD can’t shoot and can’t rebound… what exactly is he doing to help the team?
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Feb 24, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
argue with the refs and get those 2 Ts to get ejected! what else!?
"Duck, Crab. Crab, Duck"
Roger Sterling - Mad Men
by Lawler's Law on Feb 24, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
I know
I was just trying to whet your appetite, hoping that you would come in and do the heavy lifting.
by citizen zhiv on Feb 24, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
You did fine...
Everything has been lifted. Even the sofa has been moved to the third floor.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Feb 24, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not sure it shouldn't be AT coming off the bench, for now anyway
+/- is always ugly, rebound rate leaves a bit to be desired. What happened to the “motor” that Sr. raved about? I see it on some plays, but I thought it would translate into more effort rebounds, deflections and better defense.
Turns out Al is pretty much just a scorer (which is fine). Though the Rook/Soph game did reveal him to be pretty nifty with the ball in a running offense.
The question is, who starts at the 3 if not AT? Collins, Jones, Novak?
F-Elton!
Love the game
Especially when Corey charges over Mardy and Lawler said “we’ve seen a couple those over the years”
Classic Maggette.
Another Classic moment when Maggette has ZBo 10 feet from the hoop and decides to post him up and do a turn around shot. I ain’t no defensive guru but I think Corey would beat ZBo off the dribble.
Not Corey, he used his “brain”
Corey missed like half of his free throws too. What I used to love about him was his ability to get to the line and he used to be a great free throw shooter. It appears his FT% is off quite a bit this year.
by Michael White on Feb 24, 2009 8:02 AM PST up reply actions
may have had something to do with that funky hand wrap
I think Milph also mentioned something about him braking his hand. Also he looked a little shook up after he got hit on the hand.
yeah
corey was never one of those players that put fears to his opponents, as well as his opposing fans for that matter.
"This kid is the best new talent in the league right now, and I don't care who else you mention." -Suns Coach, Alvin Gentry, on Clippers rookie sensation, Eric Gordon.
Did you all see that Mike Taylor dunk?
Ridiculous. Was important to see the team come out and be competetive after another horrendous start. Also great to see EJ kick to an open BD for the sealing three. The bad start and the late third quarter collapse are disturbing though. Before the team turned into a well oiled turnover machine after going up by 18, I was starting to think that it is really feast or famine with these guys as of late. There was the Knicks game that was close but in the month of Feb they have not been in any games that were close at the finish.
They don’t even stink it up with any consistency?
I know
this dude could dunk from the get go. I knew that he was our best dunker before the season started. I just didn’t know that he could do a “pass to yourself, between the legs, reverse jam” :]
Here’s a clip of him in the D-League dunk contest:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwAG1KdFGUM
"This kid is the best new talent in the league right now, and I don't care who else you mention." -Suns Coach, Alvin Gentry, on Clippers rookie sensation, Eric Gordon.
Did he go between the legs?
I can’t tell for sure but it looks like he brought it down low but not between the legs. I mean I could do that dunk… : D
No man is happy without a delusion of some kind. Delusions are as necessary to our happiness as realities. -Christian Nestell Bovee
by ClipperChuck on Feb 24, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions
On the clip I posted, it wasn't a between the legs
but on tv, I was fairly sure it was
"This kid is the best new talent in the league right now, and I don't care who else you mention." -Suns Coach, Alvin Gentry, on Clippers rookie sensation, Eric Gordon.
Yes...
the dunk they showed during the broadcast he went between his legs.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Feb 25, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
^ i saw that. He missed like all 4 of his in game dunk attempts though, wierd.
why didnt ricky tell baron how to get that triple double ?
funny...
About Ricky. And you’re right about Taylor too. He goes in and tries to jam in games, and he always comes up short. I guess it’s a little tougher with the opposing center there.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Feb 24, 2009 9:18 AM PST up reply actions
The 2 clipper teams
it seems like there are 2 very different clippers teams
Bad clippers team that can’t play defense and can’t score
And the good clippers team that scores in large numbers and gets defensive stops when needed
And it seems the difference between those two teams has alot to do with health. When the bad clipper team shows up it usually is due to injuries. And the good clipper team shows up when we have Randolph and Camby. Hopefully we stay healthy and we get to see the good clipper team more often.
Eric Gordon is awesome!!!
Anywho, does anyone actually believe that Baron banked those jumpshots on purpose?
He banked in at least one three-pointer. He was so off in some parts of the game that he was making them! lol.
"This kid is the best new talent in the league right now, and I don't care who else you mention." -Suns Coach, Alvin Gentry, on Clippers rookie sensation, Eric Gordon.
Like your sig
Obviously he didn’t mean to bank the three. The other one…. probably not, but watching it on x-mo, there’s a slight possibility he meant it. If he didn’t then he missed a 15 footer by about 3 feet, both wide right and long.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Feb 24, 2009 9:20 AM PST up reply actions
He calls it if he means it
Seriously, I heard him on TV once call bank on a floater in the lane.
If he didn’t call bank, it was luck.
Get me BD and 75 and I'm in
hmmm...
sometimes, I also say bank, when I miss a shot badly. :)
"This kid is the best new talent in the league right now, and I don't care who else you mention." -Suns Coach, Alvin Gentry, on Clippers rookie sensation, Eric Gordon.
Thanks
Yeah, I’m pretty skeptical of him making banks as he can’t even make normal short range jumpshots consistently this whole season.
"This kid is the best new talent in the league right now, and I don't care who else you mention." -Suns Coach, Alvin Gentry, on Clippers rookie sensation, Eric Gordon.
Hopefully this is a glimpse of 09-10
The win is a nice tonic for all the concerns this team has been generating. We’ve seen this before, but it’s the first time we see BD go above and beyond for a long time. I liked that he addressed the TJ Simers issue in a pre game interview. He has his built in excuses for this year, 1st year in a new system, nagging injuries, team injuries, etc.
Regardless, the three pronged attack of Randolph, EJ, & BD is verly likely to be the Clippers best formula for winning. Of course the effort of Baron Davis, the absence of Zach Randolph, and you could argue the presence of Al Thornton has disrupted this winning formula greatly. I wouldn’t mind starting Mardy at small forward to see what happens here. If Dunleavy was going to put Maggette in the 6th man role, then it seems like Al would be a no brainer. Problem is we don’t have much of a replacement, and that Dunleavy took plenty of heat for that move back then and knows it’s a sensitive issue.
Meanwhile Fred Jones & Mardy Collins are making strong cases to stick with the team next year, as Novak has faded a bit lately. They really seem to know their roles and are filling out our back court pretty well, but still I wouldn’t mind seeing the Clips take the best available PG in the draft.
Did we get a glimpse tonight of what an aging Marcus Camby can do in a more limited role? Obviously, that 3 pointer was a fluke, but he was instrumental in those first 6 minutes he played. Good move keeping this guy around.
And it was just good to give something back to the Warriors. I was really getting sick of getting slapped around by them. Boston should be a fun, low pressure game for these guys.
We need to play some D.
especially BD since he’s going to defend Rondo (never thought I’d ever say that)
"This kid is the best new talent in the league right now, and I don't care who else you mention." -Suns Coach, Alvin Gentry, on Clippers rookie sensation, Eric Gordon.
Boston matchups...
I would expect Gordon to stick Rondo, and BD to take Ray Ray (aka Jesus) – but either way Baron will have trouble. I don’t think he can stay in front of Rondo, but he’ll have to work hard, running around screens, etc. against Ray.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Feb 24, 2009 9:54 AM PST up reply actions
We have a shot
Hey KG isn’t playing so we have a shot. The Warriors were able to pull off an upset as well. Of course any wins at this point are kind of luke warm as we’ll get fewer ping pong balls. Blake Griffin or bust this year IMHO.
No man is happy without a delusion of some kind. Delusions are as necessary to our happiness as realities. -Christian Nestell Bovee
by ClipperChuck on Feb 24, 2009 7:51 PM PST up reply actions
Just checking the box score
and we shot 13-24 behind the arc. That’s 54.2% folks! That would get it done for sure. I also thought that Gordon shot below 50% overall because of his 1 for 8 start but he surprisingly finished the game with 9 for 17.
"This kid is the best new talent in the league right now, and I don't care who else you mention." -Suns Coach, Alvin Gentry, on Clippers rookie sensation, Eric Gordon.
It was posted in a fanshot...
It’s a great piece. I need to write something on it.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Feb 24, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
This is what happens...
When guys start gaining access to players. I’m not going to chart new waters with this post, these things have been written about Simmons before, but he’s gone soft now that he has access to these guys. That article was a puff piece for Baron. According to the peice, the tough season is the fault of Dunleavy and apparently the Clippers “skunk spray stench.” And that’s because he obviously likes Baron personally and he’s sitting in his kitchen eating omelettes.
He feeds off loud crowds and bright spotlights, only now he’s playing for a laughingstock in a half-empty arena. He thrives in crunch time, only the Clips don’t keep games close enough for that to matter.
As if its the Clippers fault that the team isn’t close in crunch time and it has nothing to do with the “star” free agent point guard we picked. Otherwise, I thought the article was at least somewhat respectful of Clipper fans, even if it does fuel the stereotype that the franchise is simply cursed.
by Michael White on Feb 24, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
Well...
It’s not news that Simmons thinks it’s all MDsr’s fault. His chat-rant from a couple weeks ago lamented the fact that he had to watch Baron looking like he ‘just smelled a fart’ and blamed it all on Dunleavy. Doesn’t Baron have some responsibility in this?
Still, it’s a good read. Simmons is at least honest about the impact of having breakfast with Baron. He knows he’s going soft even as he starts to get squishy.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Feb 24, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
I guess we see what we want to see
First, the franchise isn’t cursed. It simply has a horrible owner and a horrible GM / Coach.
Second, Simmons’ opinions are as valid as anyone else’s. He’s a smart guy, a good writer and a season ticket holder. As CS said, Simmons has expressed such opinions about the Clippers and their management for years. Simmons is right on when he asks why it is that MDSr signed BD promising him he would run and then failing to allow the team to do so. We should all be asking those same questions.
Third, my father used to say that a poor carpenter always blames his tools.
I agree by the way
I also think Simmons is an excellent writer. For all the complaining I do about Bill Simmons (and I complain a fair amount) I simply read everything the guy writes.
by Michael White on Feb 24, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
Carpenter:Tools::
Baron : “injuries”?
Or are you calling Baron Davis a tool? Its not that I disagree its just a bit unexpected…
Get me BD and 75 and I'm in
I must admit...
I’m not sure who the carpenter is and who the tool is in this one either. Is MDsr the tool of Bill Simmons? Is Baron the tool of MDsr? I don’t follow.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on Feb 24, 2009 8:18 PM PST up reply actions
Simmons with Baron
Uh oh. A little scary. Going to read it now. Celtics coming to town without KG too.
by citizen zhiv on Feb 24, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
Baron Davis, where have you been?
Finally, the guy who we signed for $65 million showed up. He was making shots, but more importantly making plays. He was making stuff happen, and we needed him on the court. I loved his emotion last night. He was pumped after a 3 Gordon drained while he was in the midst of making 8 in a row. That said, I hope that Baron will take this little boost of momentum forward, but I’m still extremely skeptical. It seems like he has good games against the Dubs; I want to see him do it against a different opponent. Also, he did take a few ill-advised shots that actually went in last night. A lot of those were the same shots that he’d been missing all season long (i.e. the reason for his 36% from the field thus far). I don’t want him to be a chucker who has to rely on those going in for a good game. Great game for him, though. Let’s hope it continues.
Randolph continued to do his thing. I’m not complaining about anything this guy does ont he court. There is no doubt in my mind that the trade for him really helps the Clippers if they can ever assemble a decent team.
Then there’s Eric Gordon. I love this guy. After watching the Dubs go on a 19-2 and seeing EJ miss 7 of his first 8 shots, I was not in a good mood. See, I’ve been dealing with bad defeats this year by rooting for EJ to pad his stats, but it looked like I was going to lose on both counts last nigh. Boy, how wrong was I? This kid is amazing. I truly cannot believe that he is only 20. He does it all, and on a consistent basis. He made the two threes that gave the Clips a 9 point cushion. Incredible.
Good to see them get a win. Not expecting much out of the Boston game, though.
"When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished by how much he'd learned in seven years." -Mark Twain
by WestsideBrandon on Feb 24, 2009 2:55 PM PST reply actions
Haven't we all
“See, I’ve been dealing with bad defeats this year by rooting for EJ to pad his stats, but it looked like I was going to lose on both counts last night.”
So true and so pathetic on our part, but we take what we can get.
On the other side
I’ve learned that everytime that the clippers are winning by alot i never seem to get comfortable. It seems that whenever the clips are winning somehow some way they get that lead taken away or it becomes a close game in a matter of minutes. It keeps the game exciting always though.

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