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Clippers vs. New Jersey - Game Preview

2008/2009 NBA Regular Season
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vs.
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15-50
28-37
Staples Center
March 15th, 2009, 6:30 PM
FSN Prime Ticket, 710 AM
Probable starters:
Baron Davis
PG Devin Harris
Eric Gordon
SG Vince Carter
Al Thornton
SF Trenton Hassell
Zach Randolph
PF Yi Jianlin
Marcus Camby
C Brook Lopez

The Back Story:

  • November 22, 2008 in New Jersey - New Jersey 112 - Clippers 95   box score   recap

The Big Picture:

No more excuses.  Marcus Camby flew to Denver and played 32 minutes.  I can only assume his ear and migraine issues are behind him.  Chris Kaman has played a couple of games, and with only 17 remaining, I don't think we can use the 'he's rusty' excuse very long if this is supposed to be the evaluation period.  Zach Randolph is back with the team after his father's funeral, no doubt with a heavy heart, but hopefully ready to play some ball.  And frankly, playing at home against a team that's 9 games under .500 is one of only two games that look winnable on paper for the rest of this month.  The team is already 0-5 in March and riding a seven game losing streak - how bad is it going to get if they don't win this game?  1-13 in March?  0-14?  Since Camby was only cleared to play at the last minute on Tuesday, and Randolph was gone last night, this is actually the first game in which MDsr has the real 'who starts?' dilemma.  I assume it's Kaman who comes off the bench since he (a) is the one most likely to be on restricted minutes and (b) sucks (so far at any rate).  With New Jersey being very dependent on their guards and not particularly strong in the front court, the Clipper bigs are going to have to be very big indeed to win this game.  I think Zach will have a huge game - Yi's not strong enough to guard him, Lopez isn't quick enough.  But defending Harris and Carter at the other end will be just as big a challenge.  I assume that MDsr will put on Baron on Vince and EJ on Devin Harris since there's no way Baron will be able to stay in front of the ultra quick Harris.

The Antagonist:

I find all of this 'resurgent Eastern Conference' talk somewhat amusing.  Sure, Boston and Cleveland and Orlando are strong at the top.  But you've also got a team like New Jersey, 9 games under .500 in mid March, and tied in the loss column with the team in 8th place!  It's making for a lot of excitement in east coast NBA cities - six teams with a legitimate shot at the final playoff spot, but only one of them gets the honor of being swept by the LeBrons in the first round.  New Jersey's got as good a shot as any of those teams it would seem, but they've been going the wrong direction since the All Star break - they're 4-10 in their last 14 games.  Devin Harris is an All Star, Vince Carter's putting up surprisingly good numbers still, and Brook Lopez is a candidate for Rookie of the Year - but they're forwards are terrible.  Yi Jianlin must surely be the only 7 footer in the league shooting 40%.  Former Clipper Bobby Simmons has lost his starting small forward job to Trenton Hassell, which is never a good sign.  (Simmons has been on fire the last 5 games however, making 16 of 20 shots during that time.)  Eduardo Najera is out for the season after having a hernia operation.  And their young big who looked promising coming into the season, Josh Boone and Sean Williams, after given them much.  Still, with Harris and Carter forming one of the best backcourts in the league, they have a chance down the stretch of the season if they can get anything from their forwards.

The Subplots:

  • Regretting Devin Harris.  You think the Clippers are sad that they drafted Shaun Livingston (of the Tulsa 66ers) ahead of Devin Harris in 2004?  Imagine how Dallas feels?  They had the guy, and then traded him for Jason Kidd, at the same time giving away 2 first round picks, $3M in cash, and an actual ton of cap space.  All Harris did was immediately prove to be better than Kidd and make the All Star team.  He's averaging 22.7 points and 7.1 assists per game - oh, and he's 9 years younger than Kidd.
  • Man, I was WAY off.  This is the second meeting this season between the Clippers and Nets.  The first game happened shortly after the Zach Randolph trade was completed, and Zach and Mardy Collins were not in uniform pending the results of player physicals.  Here's one thing I said after that game:

    Eric Gordon is a major talent, but also a rookie, and a 19 year old in the deal.  In the first half of this game he threw not one but two passes to people wearing blue shirts in the crowd....He's just not going to be a productive and effective NBA shooting guard on a consistent basis any time soon.

    In his next game, he got the starting nod and scored 25 points.  He's been a fixture ever since, and has scored in double figures in 43 of 49 games since the first New Jersey game.  So, by almost any definition of 'any time soon' and 'consistent basis', I could not have been more wrong, I'm happy to say.
  • Brook Lopez.  This time last season, many of us in Southern California were watching Brook Lopez in the Pac-10 tournament.  And we knew he was going to be a solid pro - but I don't think anyone knew he was going to be this good this soon.  He's got great size, and he has an incredibly polished offensive game.  Nonetheless, I suspected he was going to have a big adjustment to the pros where he'd be going up against opponents just as big as he is.  In the Pac-10 he just out-bigged everybody.  I can remember one game against USC where Stanford couldn't shoot at all, but it didn't matter, as Brook and his brother Robin (now with the Suns) just kept getting every offensive rebound until the team scored.  But to my surprise, he's had little trouble making the transition - he's averaging almost 13 points and 8 rebounds a game, and also blocks 1.8 shots per.  Rookie of the Year voters like scoring, so he doesn't really have much of a shot at the award, but he and fellow Pac-10er Kevin Love are clearly the cream of the crop as far as front court players from this draft.
  • The Clipper Bigs.  As I said above, this is really the first game where MDsr has to decide who starts and who comes off the bench out of Kaman, Camby and Randolph.  I think Randolph is a no-brainer.  The Clipper offense is moribund without him on the floor.  My first reaction is that Kaman will come off the bench, simply because he's not ready to play big minutes.  But as I think about it some more, I realize that Kaman is easily the most logical matchup for Lopez.  So I;m going to second guess myself and say that Kaman gets the start, and Camby comes off the bench.  However they split the time, the Clippers need a lot of productivity from these guys tonight.
  • Superstar for one game. Former Clipper Keyon Dooling.  Truthfully, there aren't any good candidates for this award on the Nets.  Harris and Carter are going to have big games, but they're stars.  And I just don't think Yi or any of the forwards are going to do much.  So let's say that Vince plays a lot of three, Dooling gets big minutes at the 2, and has a big game against his former club.
  • Movie Quote: 

    The man who said "I'd rather be lucky than good" saw deeply into life. People are afraid to face how great a part of life is dependent on luck. It's scary to think so much is out of one's control. There are moments in a match when the ball hits the top of the net, and for a split second, it can either go forward or fall back. With a little luck, it goes forward, and you win. Or maybe it doesn't, and you lose.

    Chris Wilton - Match Point (2005).  Woody Allen continues to make a movie a year, whether anyone goes to see them or not.  I am ashamed to admit the last one I watched was this thriller.  It was a good movie, if a long way removed from the transcendence of Manhattan or Annie Hall.  But you know what?  The absolute worst Woody Allen movie is still better than 99% of other movies made.  I need to see Vicky Christina Barcelona.  If you haven't seen Match Point, the quote above is crucial to the story.
  • I have no idea where one goes to get the Nets perspective.  Do they have bloggers in New Jersey?  One would imagine so.  UPDATE:  NetsDaily, apparently.

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Hmmm...

Hard to pay attention, let alone get excited, at this point. The Cleveland game seems to be sinking in as some sort of final gasp. But it’s never over until it’s over, which will mercifully be soon enough. Draft watch 2009—keep an eye on March Madness!

A few points, just from checking the LA Times:

—Kurt Streeter checks in, again rather belatedly, with the latest Baron Davis watch. It seems that he met up with him in Brentwood on the day of the Cavs game. Streeter wrote a column two years ago saying that Baron, riding the crest of the GSW wave at the time, really belonged in LA more than any other athlete. As he mentions here, he was, um, kind of thinking he should be on the Lakers, not the Clippers. After that revelation, there are double-digit inches on the basic “it’s the Clippers” theme, how everything that could go wrong has gone wrong.

But the big story here is in the first and last paragraphs, where BD strides up for the interview and he’s EATING A DOUGHNUT. With a couple of bites of fried bread and sugar rushing down to his gut 6 or 7 hours before going up against Lebron, Streeter examines Baron’s angst and his funk. There are a couple of ways to look at this, but in my experience doughnuts aren’t known for their efficacy in building self-esteem, let alone peak athletic performance. The silver lining comes at the very end of the piece, where BD tosses the half-eaten doughnut into the trash as he goes off to face the NBA’s best. I find that impressive—generally when I hit the doughnut button, I finish what I’ve started. So there’s that. This is the type of small detail/non-story that says both a lot and nothing at the same time, which can be frustrating or incidental and meaningless. The fact is, right now, BD doesn’t care. But he sounds the same meme that he’s been coming back to: next year is going to be strong. If the Clips trade him, so be it, but he’s going to be playing hard and making things happen next year for somebody. My guess is that it’s going to be the Clippers. MDSr will be around in some capacity, and so will BD. But who knows.

—Just to get it out of the way, Heisler has a small item on the Cavs game, saying that all of New England was up until 1 am hoping that the Clips could hold off the Cavs, and Masshole Simmons managed to write a few thousand words (he mentions something about pith and glibness and blogging that I didn’t understand at all) on the game but somehow couldn’t manage to fit in the Boston angle. A nice and welcome swipe. I’m ready to go back to enjoying Simmons now.

—In his rankings Heisler, putting the Clips at 28 ahead of Washington and Sacramento, says “say goodbye to Kaman’s famous jump passes in his last five weeks here.” This seems to be the recurring concept: the Clips (and GM MDSr, his former sponsor) will be hell-bent on dealing Kaman during the offseason. So the question that might be discussed is who, what and where. Where are the likely takers, if any? What do the Clips want and need in return? What does the future look like, with Camby on an expiring contract? CS notes how we’ve only seen Rusty/Primitive Kaman in two lackluster efforts so far in his return. Will we see any Kaman 2.0 before this is over? If we do, will that get us excited and we’ll lose sight of the disastrous track record? At least having Kaman healthy and available along with the other big men is new and different. But at this point, seeing a little Kaman 2.0, even for a tiny stretch, would be at least a little fun to watch, and raising his trade value should be a priority if nothing else.

Sunday morning doughnuts anyone?

by citizen zhiv on Mar 15, 2009 8:40 AM PDT reply actions  

A 1st round pick would be nice

It will nice to have another SG/SF..maybe someone to flil in the void left my Freddy Jones after season. Maybe a Project Big Man.

This is going to be my team, and we're going to rise together.
-Clipper Darrell

by oasisman on Mar 15, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've been thinking about kaman trades for awhile...

this is a weak draft so if the clips dont get a top 3 pick, they should trade the pick and kaman. I would make 2 trades.

the first would be Kaman and the pick to Washington for caron butler ( i think the clips would do this for a couple of reasons… first being an upgrade at SF. Second his contract and z-bo’s both come off in the summer of 2011… that’s almost 27 million coming off the books that year and we could be free agent players. I think the wiz do it because a number 4-7 pick is nothing to scoff at even in a bad year and Kaman vista is somewhat efficient although it sometimes has bugs that resembles Kaman ME.

The second trade to make is thornton and salary filler for Kelenna Azubuike, but this just may be wishful thinking on my part…

other trades worth considering…
Kaman for Kirk Hinrich (as a backup for baron for if/when he gets injured… or we can have a little 3 man rotation at the tow guard spots and let baron play off the ball..Unfortunately, the bulls just got a C and he has an expiring contract…

kaman and the pick for josh howard (this one has been beat to death though )

Camby for curry and david lee and 2 top 3 protected 1st round picks (then we could complete our goal of becoming the knicks west) lol

by cantthinkofagoodname on Mar 15, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

why does everybody wants to trade al thornton

the guy is just in his second year in the league.

by XXDC2XX on Mar 15, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

he just needs

to improve on being aware… which imo is easily fixed.
to improve on knowing when to shoot and when to drive
to improve on passing because hes already considered a black hole

otherwise his defense these past 2 games have been nice

by Final692 on Mar 15, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

i just dont think he has a high basketball IQ

and he’s a ballstopper on offense… why wouldn’t we trade him now while his production is high and he’s on a rookie contract? I like to cash out while I’m ahead…

not to hijack the thread, but back when CS wrote up a marcus camby piece on Jan 21, I said that would be the best time to trade him since his production value was so high and had a 2010 contract… Now 2010 contracts wont matter once these “superstars” all resign big deals and extensions this summer. And if you look at his game logs since that post by CS he’s only had 1 double double in the 16 games he’s played since… I know he’s had injuries but I think that’s a comparable case to AT, his value is high and his contract is low.

by cantthinkofagoodname on Mar 15, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

those are good points

i dont argue with any of those points…

but if we had to keep thornton, id put him on the bench for a go to guy at the very least when say our starters are resting

of course thats only if he continues being the same player he is now

by Final692 on Mar 15, 2009 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Match Point

was much much better than Vicky Christina Barcelona.

by Michael White on Mar 15, 2009 11:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Haven't seen VCB

but Match Point was excellent.

F-Elton!

by mikey p on Mar 15, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone see Scoop?

Or Cassandra’s Dream?

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Mar 15, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

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