Off-season Wish List
by ClipperChuck on Apr 17, 2009 7:28 PM PDT
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PrintI thought it would be nice to put together a list of things each player should do in the off-season to improve. Some of these guys might not be back due to contracts or trades but for now they are still on our team right now.
Baron Davis - Try PX90.
Chris Kaman - Try hypnosis/sacrificing virgins/voodoo to manage his ADD and lift his injury curse.
Marcus Camby - Pack his bags, he's moving on to bigger and better things.
Zach Randolph - Lay off the bottle, eat a salad once in awhile and hire a driver.
EJ - Ignore phone calls from ZBo, Baron and Ricky late at night.
Thornton - Watch lots and lots of Scottie Pippen tapes.
Ricky Davis - Get a medical prescription for marijuana.
Steve Novak - Work on a go-to celebratory move after draining a 3. I think blowing on the tips of his fingers could work for his "Shooter" image.
DeAndre Jordan - 1000 jumpers before breakfast, 1000 hook shots before lunch, 1000 turnarounds before dinner, 1000 bank shots before bed.
Fred Jones - Sign a contract for the minimum.
Mike Taylor - Work on his Tony Parker impersonation.
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I've been out of the loop...
Why is Camby for sure a goner next year? We didn’t make him available at the trading deadline, so I’m wondering why he’s all of the sudden a goner.
Think about it
He’s 35, so he doesn’t fit into any short-term plans for a team that won 19 games (ouch, so painful to see that). He’s also a free agent after the year so we either overpay to keep him or he leaves as a free agent and we get nothing. We should have traded him at the deadline as he could have been part of 2 playoff runs (practically every playoff team could use someone like him) and we could have gotten a bit for him. Well we still can get something for him, even if all our guys came back healthy we are at the very best the 8th seed and thats only if teams like the Mavericks and Suns blow up their teams and we somehow improve more than up and comers like the Thunder.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Apr 18, 2009 2:58 AM PDT up reply actions
While he's a valuable asset
What could we hope to get for him? I doubt we’d get much, unless someone’s willing to throw in a 1st rd. pick which I doubt.
He’s a fan favorite here in L.A. and is a veteran team leader, which this team sorely needs. Plus, he’s an expiring contract next year, which is not only attractive to other teams, it’s attractive to us. If things start to turn around next year, he might actually want to stay for a fair price.
"stay for a fair price"
Lol that made my day
We can get a 1st rounder for sure
All we have to do is call OKC and offer them Camby for their late first rounder. They have the cap space, they don’t even need to send a player back. We can even ask them to also give us Earl Watson and Damien Wilkins (who’s about the same player as Fred Jones), both of whom would be rotation players for us.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Apr 18, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
But why not keep him and make our tea mbetter? he could help us win games, and make it to the playoffs, which is the goal right?
Playoffs? Don't make me go Jim Mora on you.
We won 19 games this year, we need to improve by close to 30 games to make the playoffs in the West (assuming you need 47+ wins to get in).
Know who did that this year, the Miami Heat, a team that added a healthy Dwyane Wade, Michael Beasley and Shawn Marion (later Jermaine O’Neal). Keeping our roster intact and expecting us to massively turnaround with the same coaching staff, same players etc is ridiculous.
It’s not that Camby doesn’t make us better, in fact him and EJ are the only guys on our team that really do, it’s that he has value, he’s an expiring contract and he’s unlikely to take our offer if another team offers him a comparable contract (he’ll go to a contender that offers him the best contract).
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Apr 19, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Camby will be around next season until the end of the trade deadline.
Here’s why: the reasonable coach would want his uber-talented rookie center to have a role model who brings 100% each and every night. DeAndre can only improve with Camby teaching him the ropes. He’s the closest thing we have to a Kareem coming back to coach Bynum or Ewing coaching Dwight. But if he does this for us, I hope the Clips at least have the class to trade him to a playoff team: he deserves to have another shot at a championship.
Bad decision
a number of things can happen the longer we wait, Camby can get injured (he is injury prone), he could age badly over the summer (he is in that age range where players drop dramatically) or he could demand a trade or release. I wouldn’t be all that surprised if we negotiated a buyout for him either just to save a few ducats.
We can hire a coach to teach DJ, I mean why not hire Mutombo as an asst. coach.
FA in 2010.
by ClipperChuck on Apr 18, 2009 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Camby needs to go....
Keeping Camby is mistake for a number of reasons…he an overrated defender (he isn’t a good post defender at all, and all his blocks come from playing help defense), he is content to shoot 18 foot jumpers from the top of the key (primarily because he has no post game). Add to this the fact that he is getting older, more injury prone, and yet still has valuse around the league. I would either trade him for a draft pick or package him in a deal to another team (Camby and Thornton for Caron Butler and Juan Dixon works, financially speaking- although that may be wishful thinking on my part).
Also, what has Camby ever done to earn the right to be traded to a contender? The guy bitched for two months after being traded from the Nuggets. As a Clipper fan I want to get the most we can get for any player to make us better. I did not like giving Sam Cassell away for nothing either (although realistically, the guy is the best Clipper player in history, so if anyone deserved to be sent off to greener pastured it was him.)
I agree that we can get a coach to work with Jordan (I dont want him learning how to play the center position form someone who is incapable of posting up anyway). Kaman and Randolph are both great rebounders in their own right, and they need to be on the floor together. Assuming Dunleavy will be around next year, hes more likely to have success with two guys who can command a double in the post, which he would have with randoph and kaman in he ever played them together.
I still like thornton...
He’s a terrific athlete who is a lot of fun to watch. I don’t think there’s any pressing need to trade him at all actually, I was really just thinking out loud. If we dont trade him I would love to see him reach his full potential with us over the next few years. That being said I think Caron Butler is an all around better basketball player (who we should have drafted in the first place)…
Let's clarify that...
I was actually being sarcastic when I said “the reasonable coach” because I was referring to what Dumbleavy will most likely do. It isn’t my personal opinion that we should not trade Camby, but I have a feeling that Dumbleavy REALLY REALLY REALLY believes that the team will make the playoffs next year, if healthy. And because he believes the team will be in the playoffs, I’m sure he wants to keep Camby around. When the whole thing crashes and burns, Dumbleavy WILL VERY LIKELY get rid of the guy by the trade deadline. As far as being traded to a contender, I just think that it’ll be good karma for our team to do something nice for someone else…we need all the karma/mojo/luck/goodwill we could get, you know what I mean? But this is a business and the team better get someone good for him…it’s funny what championship teams will give up to get players that they believe can get them “over the hump”…look at the risk that the Rockets took with Artest, what the Celtics gave up for Garnett, what the Clippers gave up for Cassell… LOL. Just kidding about the last one…we totally ripped off the TWolves in that one.
I like Camby
But I understand, his contract can help move one of our bad contracts.
BUT DJ needs to shoot free throws w/ mark price
Milph commented that alot of his misses
are too long and that he should pull a Dominique Wilkens and shoot farther back.
In Gordon we trust
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