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Derrick Rose wins Rookie of the Year - Eric Gordon Fifth in Voting

In a vote that had all the suspense of an episode of Gilligan's Island (will they get off the island this time?), Derrick Rose easily won the NBA Rookie of the Year today.  It's the right outcome, based on Rose's productivity, his leadership on a young Bulls team and the success the Bulls have enjoyed this season.  His 36 point performance in his playoff debut is the perfect exclamation point on the Rose wins ROY! sentence. 

Although those of us in Clips Nation who watched Eric Gordon day in and day out held out some hope that he could make a run at the award through March, when Rose and the Bulls finished the season strong it was a fait accompli.  You'll find no argument with the choice of Rose from the blogger.

And thank goodness Rose finished strong.  Because Gordon came in fifth in the voting, behind several players that would make me a tad argumentative.  The fact that, as far as I know, the Clippers didn't bother putting together any sort of 'Gordon for ROY' press kit while all of the other top 6 finishers did is undoubtedly part of the issue.  But I'm just happy that Rose is a legitimate pick, because it doesn't much matter whether Gordon finished second or fifth.  As Ricky Bobby says, "If you ain't first you're last." 

For those of us who watched both of them closely, it's pretty amazing to consider that Al Thornton actually finished higher in the Rookie of the Year voting (third) than did Gordon (fifth).  No offense to Al, but Gordon's just on another level.  Of course, that says more about the other rookies in the competition than it does Al and EJ, but still. 

While it doesn't matter much that Gordon finished fifth behind Mayo and Lopez and Westbrook in the ROY race, it may not bode well for his chances of making the All Rookie first team.  It's a different group of voters - coaches vote for the All Rookie team while writers and broadcasters voted for Rookie of the Year - so I'm somewhat hopeful that they paid a little more attention to the reality as opposed to simply buying into the hype (not sure how else you can explain Mayo's thorough trouncing of Gordon in the ROY vote).  But the other possibility is that the coaches will subconsciously try to vote for a 'team' made up of players at multiple positions (although the rules state that they should vote for the top players regardless of position).  Given that Rose and Mayo and Westbrook are all guards, it's conceivable that more coaches may slide Kevin Love onto the first team (and Love's bona fides are solid, there's no question about that). 

Ultimately, it doesn't matter of course.  He is who he is, and I believe he's going to be a better pro than any rookie in this class with the possible exception of Rose.  But hopefully Gordon will get the appropriate recognition of the stellar season he has had by being selected to the All Rookie first team.  We'll see.

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Good for Rose

He is a special player. Very good defender, lightning fast, can score, and seems to be leading the team. He will be a good pro for a long time.

But so will Eric Gordon. He is more athletic than Mayo, and has a much better shot than Westbrook (I don’t get the Westbrook love). He seems to have an extra burst that they don’t.

This is a good rookie class. Lopez, Love and some others will be around a while as solid pros. But Rose and Gordon may be the All-Stars.

F-Elton!

by mikey p on Apr 22, 2009 4:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Westbrook is from the offseason camp w/ David Thrope

That is why you see Westbrook getting all the pub

by Qlippers on Apr 22, 2009 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

FWIW

Rose’s defense has been very very poor so far.

by supac on Apr 23, 2009 1:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will be ok

as long as EJ makes 2nd team. Until the playoffs I thought it was an outrage that Gordon wasn’t considered for ROY. But after his performance against Boston in Game 1 he was clearly the deserving ROY.

In Gordon we trust

by bestclipfan on Apr 22, 2009 5:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

No surprise here for Rose

I love the Ricky Bobby reference

Now, we need EJ and BD to shake and bake on the court…Not use Shake and bake in the kitchen.

by Qlippers on Apr 22, 2009 6:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

im glad clips got gordon. good thing they didnt get beasely

by ClipperMyth on Apr 22, 2009 6:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

its funny though, doesnt anyone feel that oj mayo doesnt deserve that 2nd spot?

by Final692 on Apr 22, 2009 6:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Mayo

Started strong, finished really poorly. For anyone paying attention, Mayo is the odd man out – led rookies in scoring, because he shot a lot. Didn’t do much else, and limped to the finish line.

Westbrook’s shooting percentage is terrible, but he is spectacular to watch, and he puts up other numbers like assists and rebounds, so his PER is up there.

Stat geeks like Lopez and Love and Gasol. Terrific shooting percentages (except for Love), great rebounders, Lopez blocks shots, Gasol is a great passing center. You can make an argument for those guys.

But Mayo is there because the writers are lazy. They heard his name a lot early, he led rookies in scoring, and no one actually WATCHES the Grizz, so he’s second in ROY voting. Simple.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Apr 22, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

Mayo has always been a hyped prospect, along with Kevin Love, and although Mayo may not have been as efficient as EJ, 44% FG, 38% 3’s, 88%FT, 4 Rebounds, & 3 Assists per game are pretty good numbers for a rookie guard. Especially when you consider he was the focal point of other teams defenses from pretty much the beginning of the season.

by ghost_ride on Apr 23, 2009 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gordon had a lot of hype coming out of high school too

I still remember that whole “will he or won’t he” thing with him choosing the University of Illinois they ultimately deciding to go to Indiana.

The hype was definately going for Mayo and Love too— but I mean, they went to USC and UCLA. It was hard not to hear about them each when living in Southern Cal. I think in other spots of the country there was much more press about Gordon (definately more than Love.)

I might be wrong, anybody living in the Midwest feel free to correct me.

by Michael White on Apr 23, 2009 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mcdonald's

There’s probably some truth to that, but I just remember the Mcdonald’s all american game where mayo & love seemed to be the top two recruits at that point. Then last year in college, Beasley & Rose were all the rage.

by ghost_ride on Apr 23, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mayo's numbers

Mayo’s numbers are great. In most years, he’s the hands down ROY. this isn’t most years.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Apr 23, 2009 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which begs the question

Why do only writers vote for these awards, rather than having a system that involves coaches and players?

F-Elton!

by mikey p on Apr 23, 2009 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

In UK Premier League soccer, they have a player of the year that’s voted for by the sports writers and also a player of the year voted for by the other players. The “players player” award is most sought after as it’s voted for by their peers.

Bingo! Oh me oh my!

by ClippersUK on Apr 23, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a pretty epic class

To finish 5th on a largely ignored and/or denigrated team is doing a pretty good job.

This was definitely the story of the year in what was unfortunately another down year for us…hopefully we’ll be able to parlay last years success into this years draft and be sure to grab one of the top talents available. As good as EJ is or might be, we need some up and coming talent to pair with him. At least we know we have one good piece to build around…you have to start somewhere.

by ghost_ride on Apr 22, 2009 7:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I like EJ but...

I think its much more likely that Rose will be recognized as the best player in this draft years from now. He had a very good year in a much tougher position, he’ll only get better and I won’t be surprised if he becomes a 20-10-4 kind of player in a couple of years. EJ just hasn’t shown that kind of all-around game yet.

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Apr 23, 2009 1:30 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Right...

But if we wind up having the 2nd best player out of this class, that’d be great. Would just like to see EJ be able to get his own shot in game ending situations. Obviously, he can knock down an open three in crunch time, but rebounding aside, he’s going to have to improve on creating for himself to move up in the ranks.

by ghost_ride on Apr 23, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Mayo 2nd?

"This kid is the best new talent in the league right now, and I don't care who else you mention." -Suns Coach, Alvin Gentry, on Clippers rookie sensation, Eric Gordon.

by cliptakular on Apr 23, 2009 9:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Why beat up on Mayo?

The guy was on a poor team and hit 18.5ppg in his rookie season. He had a slump in the 3rd quarter of the season but the guy is a class player and probably got the vote on his amazing start to the season.

Whilst it should have been close between him, Westbrook, Lopez and Gordon, you can’t really say it’s a joke he came second!!!

What I worry about is that all the other teams with top rookies will build around them and any other franchise players on their team (i.e. Durrant and Westbrook at OKC) whilst we won’t build around Gordon like we should. Mainly cos of the crap contracts we now have in Kaman, Baron and Zach.

I’d love us to be able to pick up a top 2 pick (i.e. Griffin or Rubio) and then just build around them, Gordon, Thornton and rotation places for Taylor and DeAndre.

If only there were enough stupid GM’s to allow us to trade Kaman, Baron and Zach. ………..

Bingo! Oh me oh my!

by ClippersUK on Apr 23, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

EJ

I’m more worried about other guys being bad influences on EJ. The Blazers traded ZBo for Francis (and then bought Francis out) because they didn’t want him influencing their young players.

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Apr 23, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has Anyone Been Watching Orlando? Courtney Lee?

Looks pretty darn good as well. He kind of moves like Brandon Roy. Long strides, not a super high flyer, quick strong moves for layups, good midrange and 3 point shots. His playoff performances have been solid so far. I think Eric is more explosive and a better shooter but still Lee is definitely going to be a great player in the league – poised and calm as well.

WHAT A PHENOMENAL CLASS! This last draft was amazing when you look at it now. Rose, Lee, Beasley, Chalmers are in the playoffs and they all seem very calm and poised for the most part. Very impressive. Add Gordon, OJ, Westbrook and Love and you have some bonafide stars all coming from one class!

It’s no wonder the Clippers were able to get DeAndre and Taylor in the 2nd round. The first round was packed!

Even Brandon Rush looked pretty good towards the end of the year as well but it’s hard to tell definitively on a Pacer team that can make Troy Murphy look like an All Star.

by moKi on Apr 23, 2009 2:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Incredible draft class, no doubt about it...

Researching my centers post today, I came across this tidbit…. for rookies 6’10" or taller and 21 years old or younger, 7 of the top 15 rookie performances by PER come from this class: Love, Lopez, Oden, Speights, Beasley, McGee and Randolph. The criteria are a little specific and PER isn’t the be all end all, but that’s still pretty impressive, especially when you see names like Shaquille O’Neal, Moses Malone, Tim Duncan, Pau Gasol and Dwight Howard mixed into the list.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Apr 23, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beasley and Speights

Are shorter than 6’10", Randolph is probably too. Well the NBA tends to fluff up the numbers a little.

FA in 2010.

by ClipperChuck on Apr 24, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Love is maybe 6'8"

So yeah, that’s true. I though Speights was that tall, but I haven’t seen him much.

In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd

by Steve Perrin on Apr 25, 2009 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not much of a surprise...

Eric Gordon had a great year, but I’m not arguing with the pick. I’m a bit angry that he’s fifth, but it doesn’t really matter. Recognition is not what he needs; he needs to keep playing well so that the Clippers have a light at the end of the tunnel.

"If a Clippers fan is reading a newspaper in his living room and the ceiling falls on him, he'll just shrug and move to another room." -Bill Simmons

by WestsideBrandon on Apr 23, 2009 3:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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