TOO MANY CHIEFS, NOT ENOUGH INDIANS.
(This is really just a follow-up to my previous post, but it was getting long so I just did it here.)
When I made the point that no one can break into the line-up next season, it's because the Clippers really DO NOT have a gaping hole at any position...so why bother picking up anyone from picks #3-#10 if there's a way to convert the pick to multiple first-round and multiple second-round picks?
Try to follow my reasoning:
1) The Clippers starting line-up is pretty much set in stone. (Davis, Gordon, Thornton, Randolph, Kaman)
2) Retained players (MTaylor-PG, Novak-PF, DeAndre-C) RickyD but he should be bought out & I won't count him...
3) Collective bargaining agreement dictates: MINIMUM # of players on an NBA roster = 14.
4) 14 - 8 = We need another 6 players.
5) Rookie salary depends on their draft position.
6) Incoming rookies will not pull an EJ and break into the starting line-up.
6a) The pecking order of a team is usually pretty simple to figure out. Look at the Lakers. It begins with Kobe. Followed by Gasol. Maybe Bynum. Then Odom. Maybe the last two can be switched, but the pecking order is clear. Portland is Roy and Aldridge. There's LeBron & Mo. Carmelo & Billups. Our pecking order is far from obvious. EJ is supposed to be the best player we have…but when Baron is healthy and motivated, it isn’t so clear. If Zach comes back healthy and motivated… If Thornton comes back stronger and smarter… If Kaman comes back healthy and motivated… If Mike Taylor comes back more disciplined and stronger… If DeAndre comes back and becomes a force in the low block… You see what I mean? Each and every single one of our starting five have the potential of making the claim that they are THE MAN. Adding another one into that mix could be disastrous—I’m sure Thornton feels slighted that he’s been forgotten one year after being drafted by the Clips. See what I mean?
My suggestion:
7) Take non-#1 pick and trade down to get multiple picks from a team for THIS DRAFT....
8) Pick up potential diamonds in the rough (Kobe was drafted #13, I think)--not wallflowers (Sam Young, Greg Monroe may still be available. Short PG's like Lawson may still be available in the middle of the draft).
9) Make sure you draft players that have the following mixture of characteristics: 1) Character 2) work-ethic 3) team-mentality 4) hunger.
10) RESULT: a) We get what we NEED—multiple guys who know they have to be the bench players but have the talent (and the luxury of time) to develop into solid bench players.
b) By using the draft to get closer to the minimum 15 players, we save money$$$: Lower draft picks are much less expensive and better for our bottom line. Also, some more talented ones can be packaged with one of our vets so we can get out of bad contracts (double-bonus!!!!)
11) We still have multiple #1 picks coming in a future draft when there is more talent out there… 2012, here we come!
BOTTOM LINE: WE NEED SOLID CONTRIBUTORS—NOT SUPERSTARS.
There are ways to contribute to the team other than being the starter and being the go-to scorer. We have plenty of those guys, at this time, though it seemed many times that we didn't have two... Teams need role players too...!
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pretty solid reasoning...
To say that we need solid contributors not superstars isn’t strictly speaking true. We’d love to have superstars… but there just aren’t any to be had – not unless we draft one or possibly two (Rubio). There’s nothing quite so frustrating as picking third in a two player draft. Which, given the team’s history, is probably what will happen. So trading down for additional picks is not a bad strategy. The flaw may be that other teams also know that this is a weak draft, so it’s hard to say how much they’ll be willing to give up to move up. But just because we’re not interested in Thabeet, doesn’t mean someone else won’t be.
A couple of points of clarification – NBA minimum roster is actually min 13, max 15. Clippers tend to go into the season with 14, so that’s the right number to use, but not actually the min. Also Mardy Collins is signed and will no doubt be back next season.
Where’s Camby in your process? Are bodies coming back in trade for him?
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Some good points here
I agree nobody from this draft, not even Griffin, should start right away on the Clippers (barring a major trade). No rookie is ever a sure thing, but there are a few players that fit the Clippers’ needs and should be able to work their way into the rotation next year. Griffin and Rubio are both future stars we could build around. DeRozan and Clark could back up and possibly replace Thornton. Harden and Hill could develop into very good starters down the road if we go for the best available player. Thabeet is tall, and Jennings is fast, but I don’t like either of them for our team.
The next best bunch of prospects are mostly guards who would struggle to find a role on the Clippers next year. We already have Taylor and Collins as developmental role players on rookie contracts so Lawson only makes sense if Baron is traded. Otherwise, he’s just a marginal upgrade over Taylor. The same goes for just about any of the remaining guards. Greg Monroe may become a star one day, but he didn’t declare for the draft this year. If he had, I expect he would have been picked in the late lottery purely off of size and potential.
If the Clippers end up with the 3rd or 4th pick, trading down a couple spots (no lower than #7) to pick up another first rounder from OKC, Minny or Memphis may be a good idea, and I could see swapping picks with Golden State for Buike. In the late 1st there should be some worthwhile SF prospects available if our first pick isn’t a SF. But if DeRozan or Clark is our man, then I’m not sure a late 1st rounder is worth much to us. Skinner, Fred Jones or someone similar are just fine holding down the last couple of bench spots. Remember they were both 1st round picks once, too.
uhh yes Griffin should absolutely start on this team. This team is going nowhere with zbo as our “superstar”, at least not while being paid like one. Quite frankly, if we dont get an impact player in the draft (aka blake griffin) or through trades our season is over before it begins. To say we’d win 30 games is optimistic. Actually that would probably the pessimists view because Mike Dunleavy would be retained for “improving” the team and will lead us to a championship so why not extend his contract for 10 more years ?
Kaman is not going to dunk the ball
ZBo is not going to stop punching people
Mike Dunleavy isnt going to stop being a horrible coach
Baron Davis isnt going to lose weight and try harder
Marcus Camby isnt going to get younger
I think our best bet is that Eric Gordon turns into D-Wade. or al thornton turns into lebron james, either of those.

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