Return of the Secaucus 14 - Draft Lottery Open Thread
by Steve Perrin on May 19, 2009 3:27 PM PDT
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Here are the complete odds for the 14 lottery teams:
I haven't checked to see how often this happens, but this year every team has their own pick in the lottery. That's an indication that teams are getting more savvy with lottery protection of traded picks, not too mention more reluctant to trade first round picks in general. Of course the Clippers still own a future first rounder from the Wolves, but it remains top 10 protected through 2011. Jeremy Tyler in 2011?
Usually the Clippers send either their general manager or their coach to represent the team in the lottery. That means, for years it's been either Elgin Baylor or Mike Dunleavy Sr. Given that MDsr wears both the hats currently, you might expect that he would be representing the team in Secaucus. Not so. This year, it's club president Andy Roeser. Why? Who knows? MDsr has been in Spain checking out Ricky Rubio, so maybe that's the only reason. Or maybe they're trying to change up their luck. Or maybe there's a more sinister reason. But it probably means nothing.
As we discussed, this looks like a two player draft at this point, and the Clippers odds of getting one of the first two picks is 35%. So get out your rabbit's foot, take the shoe off the horse, and handle all of your mirrors with extra care. We need a little luck in this one.
If they get the first pick, they'll draft Oklahoma power forward Blake Griffin, as will any other team that picks first. Chad Ford calls it Griffin's worst nightmare, but I don't see why it's any better or worse. I think he's a good fit for the Clippers, though it makes it pretty important to try to move Zach Randolph, which won't be easy.
If they get the second pick, they'll draft Ricky Rubio, the teenage Spanish point guard. The rumor making the rounds is that to make room for Rubio the Clippers will immediately try to ship Baron Davis to Golden State for Corey Maggette if this happens, but I'm not buying that. Rubio's still a kid and whereas he would certainly be the point guard of the future, it's hard to imagine him starting 18 games next season. With Baron's trade value at rock bottom, better to keep both for awhile and hope that Baron rehabs his reputation some.
Any thing other than first or second, and there's not much point in predicting who the Clippers will take at this point. With the draft still a month away, lots will change. Ford has them taking Hasheem Thabeet. Whatev. It's way too early to say.
My feeling is that there won't be much difference between picking third and picking sixth, so if LA doesn't come away with one of the top two picks, it's pretty much the same from there. As of now, I'm not excited about anyone else in this draft after Griffin and Rubio. Undoubtedly, we'll talk ourselves into someone between now and the draft - that's how it works - and to be certain there will be very good NBA players in this draft beyond the top two picks. But whether those few solid pros, maybe even all star level players, are picked third, or sixth, or 27th, no one really knows.
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we should send baron friend
that guy married to jessica alba, i mean how more lucky than that can you get.
If the draft goes
1. Washington
2.OKC
3.Clippers
what do you think guys will be the odds on OKC passing on rubio. same for NJ
a .350 batter has a pretty good shot at getting a hit...
hopefully we can come through in the clutch. not overly excited about roeser representing us, but i guess it’s an upgrade over dunleavy.
Bad feeling?
Does anyone else have this sinking feeling that we’ll drop to 4th? I just can’t shake the idea of a Clippers curse…even if I don’t really believe in such things.
I just can’t stop thinking about how we NEVER win when it’s an obvious #1 pick like Lebron or Yao, but we win when it’s shaky like freaking Kandi. You’d think as many times as this team has been horrible, we would have had more #1 overall picks.
Btw, if we fall out of the top 2, my pick for the Clips is Brandon Jennings. Which means we’ll probably pick Thabeet and he’ll turn into a bust.
Nah...
We’ll be #5.. It’s our destiny.
'Cause how you play, is how you'll be remembered. PLAY LOUD!
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on May 19, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Clippers destiny
to get 7th pick and “it’s not even possible” but w/ the clippers “where amazing happens”
Think we're all prepared for the worst...
Still afraid of us taking Thabeet myself.
I’d be okay with Hill, DeRozan, or Jennings.
I'm disheartened by the lack of creativity
Andy Roeser? They send Andy Roeser?
Last year the Miami Heat sent Dwayne Wade. The Grizzlies sent Rudy Gay. Why can’t the Clippers send one of their stars to represent us?
I would have loved to see Baron do it. He is supposed to be the face of the franchise. Gordon is still too unknown. Kaman would have done something goofy, I’m sure. Why not Z-Bo? (Just kidding).
What does the person have to do? I think they watch the balls and then sit there as the pick is announced and try not to look pissed at the outcome. Why send a club executive for that? Are they going to try to trade the pick right there on the spot? Why not give the thing some personality?
Someone tell Billy Crystal to clear his schedule for next year (it’s a given, right?).
F-Elton!
The answer is obvious...
What stars?! haha
And seriously, this is a NO BRAINER. SEND CLIPPER DARRELL!!!!
ClipperSteve?
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on May 19, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
There are many things money can't buy,
for everything else, Its Rubio? Lol
Send Ricky Brickets
It would be fun to watch him react like eight times since he probably can’t remember which team he is on.
"So what are the odds that the Clippers can compete next season given their limited flexibility? Slim and none."
Ricky Rubio likes to win and hates to lose
don’t come to the clippers then!!!
Some things we've learned on ESPN so far...
Andy Roeser is shorter than Chris Webber (and no one knows who he is)…
Jay Bilas ranks Hasheem Thabeet ahead of Ricky Rubio – he’s probably the only person in the world, with the possible exception of Dick Vitale, who does.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
I don't think it matters what pick the Clippers get...
They’ll find a way to screw things up even more than they already are.
"If a Clippers fan is reading a newspaper in his living room and the ceiling falls on him, he'll just shrug and move to another room." -Bill Simmons
by WestsideBrandon on May 19, 2009 5:16 PM PDT reply actions
Jon Barry....
LeBron only looks better than Kobe, because Cleveland asks more from him. What a brilliant revisionist argument. Kobe’s actually better, you just can’t tell.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Ricky Rubio got hurt twelve minutes into training.
Dunleavy also liked the way the player shot during the pre-game warmups. Then, Ricky Rubio got hurt.
Twelve minutes in.
Wait a minute. Isn’t the Clippers curse supposed to hit players after they get drafted by the organization, not beforehand?
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-nba-lottery19-2009may19,0,3840197.story
David Stern
Is so friggin’ smug.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Thank you commissioner...
For taking the time to be smug and not tell us anything.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on May 19, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Fired Up! Ready to Go!
Club Optimism’s favorite moment of the year!
This is it—moment of destiny.
The Clips’ options are going to be either fantastic or great. The team has a lot of very good players and if they pick 3 to 6 they will be able to add another great piece. As SP says, we’ll talk ourselves into someone between now and the draft, and that will be a fun discussion and exercise, debating the merits of Jordan Hill or Harden. I don’t think that Thabeet makes any sense at all for the Clips, since they have DJordan—something that Chad Ford and others seem to be ignoring.
The idea that Griffin would be a horrible fit on the Clips is one of the more nonsensical comments, a classic in the “it’s the Clippers” category. If the whole world agrees that ZBo is deeply problematic to say the least, why wouldn’t Griffin play and make a great addition to the roster, creating better options for the Clippers across the board? High class problem, and not a problem for Griffin in the least.
I haven’t watched Rubio enough to know that he’s real, but there’s such a broad consensus that I’ll go on with it on faith, and it might be just the thing to get a couple of great years out of Baron Davis, or a good deal sending him elsewhere. Not sure that it would be a great idea to pick a very young Rubio and go out and trade Davis right away. Timing should be good. I worry about the talented, less physical kid after the Livingston debacle, but that’s just me.
Go Clips!
We'll talk about that when we get there...
But yeah, the Livingston-Rubio comparisons are a little disconcerting.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on May 19, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Now we know...
That Roeser is shorter than D.J. Augustin.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Clippers fast fact...
20 lottery participations – more than any other team.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
so many guards in this draft...
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Joel Litvin...
A dynamic presence. Electric. Oozing charisma.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Aight, It has started!!!
Good luck! God speed. For once lol
OK...
here’s what we want to see….
Suns at 14, Pacres at 13, etc. As soon as a logo gets skipped, it means a team has skipped into the top 3. That doesn’t necessarily spell doom, but every time it happens, it lowers the Clippers odds of getting a top 3 pick.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Wow...
Check out Breen’s tie. That’s some crazy colors.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
I like how they showed the starting lineups on the bottom of the screen and we have G. Davis and G. Gordon.
and no Zach Randolph
Yes, our leading scorer doesn’t start. Makes sense.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on May 19, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Who plays Roeser in the movie?
I’ve got Jeremy Pivin.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Gentry should be representing the Clippers!
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
1.7% chance
it happens
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Here we go...
So far so good… suns don’t move up.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
good...
Pacers don’t move up
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Chalk through CHA
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Chalk...
NJN
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Bucks
10 – good news.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Still chalk
Through pick 9.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Knicks....
no frozen envelope this time.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Still
in order
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Grizzlies move up!
Their luck is changing.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
HAHAHAHA.. i just said that out loud!
'Cause how you play, is how you'll be remembered. PLAY LOUD!
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on May 19, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Lookin' Good...
We survived all the major hurdles…though we always had a 51% chance getting a top 3 pick. The big deal is that we’re in and Sac & Was isn’t.
Losing the tie breaker with Washington was freaking key.
AIGHT MY PREDITION
CLIPPERS GET 2ND PICK NO DOUBT
LOL @ Oklahoma moving up.. I really don’t know about this process
'Cause how you play, is how you'll be remembered. PLAY LOUD!
They didn't have a bad shot at making this high.
But conspiracy theories will be running high if they get #1
OK... quick recap
Grizz, Clips, Thunder left…. Clips have the best odds of those three… But we’ll see
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Conspiracy theorists
Will have a field day if the Oklahoma kid goes to the Thunder.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on May 19, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
replication
looks like the SBNation servers are having some replication issues:
When I’ve been refreshing, the newest comments from the last page view aren’t always there.
What are you, a DBA?
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on May 19, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
No, but I do pretend to be one from time to time.
Just wanted to inform you that I was seeing the issue
YES!
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
Clippers number 1!
I did not see that coming! Andy Roeser is my new hero!
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
F*CK YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
here we come Blake
Hope Restored
To the beleaguered Clipper franchise.
Why wouldn't the Clippers take Griffin?
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
As a Kings fan
I personally want Rubio. Although, it might not matter.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Rubio will be a solid pick.
I kinda wanted to pick 2 to get him but Blake will be great for us. You guys definitely need Rubio. Brand new team with him running the show.
by dulciusEXasperis on May 19, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YeaHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I can’t believe it. Hopefully Dunleavy doesn’t ruin it. I expect moves to come very soon
In Gordon we trust
Congratulations to you guys
You guys have earned it. I’m not sure the monster that is MDsr/Roeser/DTS has, but that’s not your fault.
Again congratulations.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
cosmc karma
lose elton brand gain blake griffin
That is interesting
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on May 19, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
It sure the heck is...
It’s crazy to think that 4 of those guys are two years out of high school…definitely 4 top prospects coming out of that 2007 recruiting class.
That is just beautiful!!!!!
Brighter days my friends, Brighter days
by dulciusEXasperis on May 19, 2009 5:59 PM PDT reply actions
I can't believe it...
Is this real or a cruel joke?
Congrats to the Clippers fans
from a dejected Wizards fan
Bullets Forever - where "Dagger ! " happens......
Yeah bummer you had to move down
I really hate that about the draft. You have a bum season only to move down on draft night….
by dulciusEXasperis on May 19, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for that
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on May 19, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay
Solves the Rubio question—drafting Blake Griffin.
Bit of FElton karma coming our way.
Wonder if Baron Davis is going to want to play harder now.
When the Clips made the top three it was very exciting—they had a better chance than the two other teams.
Eric Gordon…Blake Griffin…
A Very Interesting question is
Who is better, Eric Gordon or Blake Griffin? It’s great just to have a good chance at another player of EJ’s caliber, or even better. Two physical, high character guys with great intangibles.
DeAndre will have to toughen up, but if he can take a step forward that would be huge for us. Ditto for Mike Taylor.
i think the gordon era has started tonight
funny though he was drafted i year ago. he (gordon) will be THE GUY in the franchise, which is pretty cool considering he will have griffin making him company.
what happens with our plethora of overpriced bigs?
Dodgers - 2008 NL West Champions
Cardinals - 2008 NFC Champions
Congrats, clips fans
given the sort of Karl Malone comparisons being thrown around with Griffin, this should hopefully turn around the franchise.
yeah, but that had less to do with Malone
and more to do with a combination of Michael Jordan, Hakeem Olajuwon, and karma.
Memphis could always get a player they do really like by trading down
And getting a team to take away Marko Jaric.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
why would they trade down ? they need rubio. they have rubio, mayo, gay, arthur and gasol. very young starting 5
That's an awesome 5 right there.
I really wanted Rubio but with the first pick you gotta go with Griffen
by dulciusEXasperis on May 19, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
conley played extremely well last season.
Dodgers - 2008 NL West Champions
Cardinals - 2008 NFC Champions
call me crazy but i would go rubio
i kinda wanted to go second , still awesome. thing is in the league you need an elite PG and rubio is gonna be one.
Yeah said the same thing above
Kinda wanted to pick second so we could get Rubio. But really how can you not pick Blake first? If Zach is great but he’s just a stat machine, though he was pretty solid. Blake just brings this team to a whole new level.
by dulciusEXasperis on May 19, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions
thing with rubio
is rubio and gordon will give us the a very young and good combination in the league. probably the best for years to come.
Yeah that's true.
I would love to have such a young PG that’s already very good and could become great. He has great IQ and great passing ability. He looks to get his team involved and he’s already a solid defender and can pick pockets well. He just needs his shot to come along but with a PG, I’d rather have the defense, high IQ, and passing ability.
It’s a toughie and I agree with those who say we can’t be so quick to jump on the Blake train. We’re lucky to have these choices.
by dulciusEXasperis on May 19, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
i’m happy with the outcome but i had to laugh at a couple things:
1. ESPN listed Z-Bo as a reserve with Jay Bilas noting that he is a great player off the bench.
2. When they interviewed Griffin immediately after, he seemed like an emotionless robot and the thing that he said that stuck out to me was: “I’ll do the best with whatever situation I’m put in” GREAT
Great last thing we need is someone who is going through the motions
but this is just all speculation that he doesn’t want to be a clipper. He’ll be here for draft workouts so we’ll see how that goes. The staff will get a feel for his personality and commitment.
by dulciusEXasperis on May 19, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
hope so lol
Being a Clipper player is a tough job. Not easy being second tier team to the Lakers and have a history of losing. But Griffin would bring a lot to an already improving team. Eric already did so much for this team. Blake could take us even further.
by dulciusEXasperis on May 19, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
He wanted OKC to get the first pick...
Who can blame him?
"Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted" – Albert Einstein
by Another son of Mike Smith on May 19, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I think we should get rubio too...
seeing as the grizzlies are broke.. .and probably want salary relief…
what if they offer something like
camby + griffin +al thornton
for darko + rubio + rudy gay?
Do you do that?
NEVER!
DARKO? NEVER. And who wants a clipper jersey with the name GAY on the back. Sorry, i like rudy gay, but i like thornton beter. ALthough gay might be a bit more talented, but the trade just does not work out.
i cannot believe people would take rubio over griffin. this is the best forward since amare stoudamire
if you view defense through numbers
amare’s career avg in blocks: 1.5
blake’s career avg in blocks: 1.0 (this is without the 3 sec in the key violation, mind you)
Dodgers - 2008 NL West Champions
Cardinals - 2008 NFC Champions
this acually a bad draft only the 1 pick is really a prize this year and just think we got thorton at 14 and gordon at 7
ahaha i think it might be true.
- with thornton was great already. Detroit who drafted Rodney stuckley also got a steal. ( dont even mention ellis, manu, and arena)
Movin' up in the draft...
7 spots at a time.
;-)
'Cause how you play, is how you'll be remembered. PLAY LOUD!
by CLiPPz WeRD 12 on May 19, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Prediction
OKC will offer us their four first round picks over the next two years to move up to get Griffin. They’ll throw in the kitchen sink as well…
"Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted" – Albert Einstein
by Another son of Mike Smith on May 19, 2009 6:18 PM PDT reply actions
Blake, Thornton, and Gordon
Pretty nasty. Can we get a mid 1st rounder to get Maynor or Lawson.
by dulciusEXasperis on May 19, 2009 6:20 PM PDT reply actions
Agreed on Durant...
But seriously, I could see them adding Westbrook with multiple first round picks… although I’m not a fan of his so I wouldn’t view that as much more attractive.
"Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted" – Albert Einstein
by Another son of Mike Smith on May 19, 2009 6:24 PM PDT reply actions
YES!!
Ok, looks like I’m getting season tickets. Everytime I try to get out they pull me back in.
FA in 2010.
That would leave us with just fred jones sence he has never smoked or drank before I dont know what kaman is smoking but its somthing and the rest of the team is on pot
So now what?
This seems to solve a lot of problems for the Clippers. There’s always a question of what could go wrong, how the Clippers can mess things up, but this is the type of situation that changes a lot of negatives into positives.
The Clippers had big problems with defense, rebounding, and energy. Look at KA’s post, yesterday or this morning, on their deficiencies and “on court issues.” He points to defense, shot selection, and passing.
Griffin is a hungry player. He will mix very well with Camby. His effort and energy and skill should make guys like Thornton, Kaman and DJordan better. BDavis plays off of enthusiasm, and now he has been given a reason to be enthusiastic.
Griffin and Gordon seem like extremely complementary players. Athletic, play defense, inside outside.
An impressive group of bigs: Griffin, Kaman, Camby, Randolph, DJordan.
Do the Clips sign Novak now? He gets his minutes at the 4 off the bench, and that is now a crowded spot. Still, shooting is shooting and perhaps you make a deal with him towards the time when ZBo is an expiring contract and tradeable.
Gordon, BDavis, MTaylor. And Mardy Collins, possibly Fred Jones. If the Clips do anything, they need to put Ricky Davis into a deal and get him off the roster.
I don't know why I read this crap
The Clippers last had the No. 1 pick in 1998 and, perhaps predictably, blew it, taking eventual bust Michael Olowokandi.
I hate ESPN.
Yeah everyone is all over the Clipps already
Saying we should trade away the pick or that we’ll blow it or the usual, Clippers are the worst franchise on earth.
I hope Griffin isn’t too bummed about coming over here as everyone seems to make it seem. He can totally transform this team.
by dulciusEXasperis on May 19, 2009 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah but a players mental state of mind has a significant influence on how well they play, no?
I mean with a guy like Griffin you want him to be happy on the team that will try to keep around for a long long time.
by dulciusEXasperis on May 19, 2009 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed...
I honestly don’t think DJ or EJ really wanted to play here, but still… they play hard day-in-day-out.
I'm with andrewexd
I couldn’t care less where these guys want to go. I’d rather they be miserable and play for the Clippers (the team I support) then happy and play for Chicago.
by Michael White on May 19, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions
All I hear about with Griffin
is how great of a person he is, great intangibles, all that stuff. I shouldn’t think he needs to be in the right state of mind to play up to his potential— or else we are all being seriously misled regarding his attributes.
That being said, I think across all sports, guys who are ceratin to be the number 1 pick, realize they are going into tough situations (why else would the team be in a position to pick first.) It could be worse, Stafford has to go to Detroit, Griffin is coming to LA!
by Michael White on May 19, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
gonna be sooooo hard to move Zach.
He might be here for 2 more years.
by dulciusEXasperis on May 19, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh I say we start talking about that by tomorrow morning at the latest…
by Michael White on May 19, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah would be hard to move Zach but do we need to get rid of him considering he averages 20 & 10? We would obviously want to start both of them I supose.
What a tired refrain
Didn’t you know, Zach’s points and rebounds don’t count.
by Michael White on May 19, 2009 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I would argue no
(in terms of trading Zach) but my bias regarding Zach Randolph is pretty well known around these parts, so I’ll just leave it at that.
by Michael White on May 19, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
haha good points
Think he was hoping to go to the Thunder (obviously). They do have a bright future. We are definitely headed in the right direction.
by dulciusEXasperis on May 19, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions
He's a midwest guy
Just lust like EJ and it helps that we have BD to help with the transition.
Diggin the Midwest Throwbacks
It’s kind of what we need, talented guys who are focused on basketball and further, who are very unlikely to get distracted w/ off the court stuff.
I'm soooo in
Before the lottery, I was listening to Journey’s "don’t stop believin’ for 2 hrs straight and watching the draft in mute.
I’m just superstitious. Thank you, Number 1 pick
Let me know what happens
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on May 19, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah...
I’ll take it. You can email it to clipsnation@gmail.com if you want.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on May 20, 2009 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions
on ESPN news
they showed Roser opening his suit on one side the #1 and on the other side #23 (Griffins number) after that no way we are not drafting him.
In Gordon we trust
bleacher report is saying griffen should return to school, does griffen have an agent ? There are 2-3 articles with the same opinion
That's just dumb.
No way in hell a player would forgo the money and endorsements of being the #1 overall pick and risk going back to school and hurting himself. That would be the dumbest decision ever.
not even real reporters.
just some random people who think they’re are reporters. Anyone can post on there. I wouldn’t worry.
by dulciusEXasperis on May 19, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
It really says that? From this year? That’s ridiculously stupid.
In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. - Elwood P. Dowd
by Steve Perrin on May 20, 2009 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Interesting notes from the Draft on true hoop
WE DREW THE 1st and 2nd pick of the draft
The Clippers didn’t just win th first pick. They won the second pick too! The first four ball combination was 5, 3, 6, 10. Bingo. Clippers get the top pick. The second combination was 5, 6, 3, 4. Also the Clippers! The balls were placed back in the machine for a do-over, which went to the Grizzlies. I don’t know what the chances are of this happening (the Clippers had about a 17% chance each of getting the first and second picks) but it has to be about as likely as a power outage, which as I’ll explain would have been a lot more fun.
happened back in 2002, as well
http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/story?id=1384345
Time for pick No. 2’s combination: The balls mix for another 15 seconds. Lambert raises his hand. Another five seconds. First ball pops up. It’s an 8. Then comes 6 … 5 … 9. It’s Houston again.
And there was a significantly smaller chance of that happening with Houston, too.
Your friendly neighborhood Dreamshake mod.
congrats
Congrats for a Bulls fan, I know how it feels ;)
The question is not about Blake Griffin
He’s #1, it’s who do we get rid of to fit him?
just got my ticket into Club Optimism punched...
high hopes, here I come!
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